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Technical Support / Re: Question regarding sensor size and image quality
« on: August 24, 2014, 06:08:17 PM »
Hi V8Beast.
I think 14 years as a toolmaker left me with quite a keen eye for details like that, but don't ask me what colour the misses' eyes are!  :o
I just re-read my post to you, I'm glad you interpreted it in the manner intended, not as criticism of you!
Out of interest what is it a chassis for?

Cheers, Graham.

Even if it was a criticism (which it clearly wasn't), I've learned that you have to be able to handle criticism in order it to make it in this business :) And yeah, eye color isn't the first thing that catches my attention about a woman, either ;D

The chassis is for an old Dodge pickup, hence the long lower control arms. The same company also manufactures similar custom chassis for everything from old musclecars to Alfa Romeos. With substantially stiffer framerails, revised suspension pickup points, coilover assemblies, splined sway bars, etc. they're some very nice pieces of hardware. I like how they have passages for the exhaust as well to improve ground clearance.

Here are some snapshots of a Camaro frame they built. I like how they kicked in the framerails to maximize tire clearance and raised the spring/shock mounts allow for a lower ride height without compromising suspension travel. To put cost into perspective, a 1Dx is cheap by comparison :o

Sports / Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« on: August 24, 2014, 05:49:21 PM »
What a race for Ricciardo and Red Bull today. I honestly didn't pay much attention to Ricciardo before this season, but his poise, confidence, and determination have been phenomenal. Most shocking is how badly he's out-performed his four-time World Champ teammate. His battle with Alonso at Hockenheim was epic to say the least! I'm really impressed by the way he carries himself on and off the track.

The prospect of Vettel driving for McLaren is intriguing, especially now that Newey will be stepping down at Red Bull. Honda has a LOT invested in returning to F1, and they're definitely going to demand a driver lineup better than the current Magnusen/Button tandem.

Technical Support / Re: Question regarding sensor size and image quality
« on: August 23, 2014, 10:00:16 PM »
Hi V8Beast.
I would not worry about the image lighting quality until the client provides correctly assembled product for you to capture, as an engineer the first thing I notice in the images is the cocked rose joint on the left hand tie bar! In my opinion the client has let you down by not straightening such things, unless you are responsible for the assembly, in which case you need to address such things, if you are not responsible for it at least bring it to the attention of the client!  ;D
I know that rods with dual rose joints will naturally settle to their own position, but at least they can be lined up for aesthetics during product photography.

Cheers, Graham.

Ha! Good catch! It's funny how you get so consumed with getting the shot that you overlook the most basic of how the product is assembled.

Sports / Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« on: August 23, 2014, 01:44:42 PM »
What do you think about this Ricciardo fella? The way he's been sticking it to to Vettel, he just might be my new favorite driver. As an American F1 fan, I found his reason for picking #3 to be quite endearing as well. It's not like there's an American to root for, because Rossi doesn't really count ;D

Sports / Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:06:49 AM »
Someone please go to Spa this weekend so I can drool over pics of F1 cars running flat-out through Eau Rouge ;D

Technical Support / Re: Question regarding sensor size and image quality
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:02:12 AM »
Medium format file bit depths are generally much bigger than 135 format RAW files so they are much better at subtle tonality, they can literally accurately record thousands more tones of grey, also they don't have AA filters so detailed gradation is rendered much more accurately.

Indeed it could well be the AA filter that people are seeing on the crop cameras that is killing some of the subtle tonality of the image. Generally crop cameras have more severe AA filters than 135 format cameras and as their bit depth is the same it is the only substantive difference.

V8, you should borrow a D810 to see how you like the tonality of that, it should be the closest to the medium format in 135 format, though still not as good.

I knew someone smarter than me could provide a real technical reason as to why medium format looks so much better for this type of stuff ;D Glad to know exactly why now.

I certainly don't shoot enough product images like this to warrant investing in a D810, but would like to try one out some day. I just hope it doesn't have an oily sensor :o

Technical Support / Re: Question regarding sensor size and image quality
« on: August 22, 2014, 11:53:06 PM »
One more thing. As no surprise, lighting plays a tremendous role in the perceived depth and tonality of an image. In other words, a crop sensor with proper lighting technique can produce an image with a better "3D" quality than a full-frame sensor with mediocre lighting technique.

Both these images were shot with my 5D3, 24-105 lens, and the same lighting equipment. The only difference is that in the second image (the close-up), the physical limitations of the location preventing positioning the light sources where I wanted to. This compromised the lighting angle, and resulted in a much flatter, duller, two-dimensional image. The gradations, particularly in the mid-tones, aren't nearly as smooth. Therefore, the flat image had nothing to do with sensor size and everything to do with mediocre lighting technique. Just don't tell that to my client ;D


Technical Support / Re: Question regarding sensor size and image quality
« on: August 22, 2014, 11:43:32 PM »
Disclaimer: I don't know if there are any technical points of reference that either prove or disprove my observations :) At any rate, for me personally, what I perceive as superior tonal range is the biggest advantage of full-frame vs. crop sensors. Maybe the tonal range is genuinely superior with FF, or maybe it isn't, but for what I shoot sure it looks better to me :)

For example, these product shots I took recently are all some slightly different shade of gray with some black and silver mixed in. IMHO, these are the types of shots where full-frame sensors provide far more depth and tonality than a crop sensor.

When shooting similar types of boring, gray products, to my eyes medium format trumps a FF 35mm sensor in the tonality department by a huge margin as well.

Your results may vary ;D


Third Party Manufacturers / Re: D810 users are seeing spots
« on: August 20, 2014, 01:25:49 PM »
Seems like this issue affects all units in the initial production runs.  Good job by Nikon to quickly acknowledge the issue and offer a fix.

Guess they learned something from the D600 oil/dust spot fiasco. 

Who cares about some silly spots? It in no way affects your ability to stroke yourself after intentionally underexposing an image of your cat by five stops, and playing around with the sliders in Lightroom.

I see psolberg has already joined the party. Surely, dilbert can't be far behind ;D

In my tiny corner of the photography world (automotive editorial), staff guys earn between $30-$45K. Beyond that, in the freelance/contract world, it's almost impossible to pin down an exact figure. On one end of the spectrum, there are people that work for nothing or next to nothing. They might only make a couple hundred dollars per year! They usually have full-time jobs in other professions, and shoot for fun. Some are itching to join a staff, but haven't had the opportunity to do so.

On the other end of the editorial spectrum, there are guys who would never join a staff because they make way more money on a contracted basis. Many got started working on a staff, but quit upon realizing the greater earning potential doing contracted work. Annual earning range between $50K-$100K. Most fall right in the middle. That said, most full-time freelance photographers that specialize in editorial work also dabble in some product and advertising photography as well.

The guys that clear $100K usually have a fair amount of public relations photography gigs, and do some editorial work on the side. By PR work, I referencing photographers that shoot images for OE manufacturers (GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Toyota, BMW, etc) that will be distributed to media outlets.

The top dogs in the business are commercial photographers that don't even bother with editorial work. These are they guys shooting brochures, ad campaigns, and billboards. In the U.S., you can count these guys on one or two hands :) Everyone aspires to be as good as them someday. They can charge hundreds of thousands of dollars per shoot, but they also have full-time staff members, hoards of assistants, and 18-wheelers full of equipment that rack up the expenses. Even so, they earn hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

The unofficial hierarchy of earnings/prestige is:

1) Commercial photography
2) PR photography
3) Editorial photography

Of course, that's just my opinion ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D MK I Still Relevant?
« on: July 24, 2014, 07:35:46 PM »
I've touched my 5D only once since replacing it with the 5D3. Thank goodness for that. While the 5D still offers great IQ, it's hard to re-acclimate to using after being spoiled by the MK3. I can't believe I used to rely on that junk screen ;D That said, IQ wise I very much prefer the 5D over the 7D. 

Sports / Re: Formula One from Silverstone
« on: July 09, 2014, 01:01:24 PM »
And V8 Beast, that’s the deal of the decade, if you wanna do the same for the Abu Dhabi GP let me know ;)

If I get rich some day I might have to take you up on that offer. Flights from Austin to Abu Dhabi are $2,000 - $2,500 right now. Ouch!

Sports / Re: Formula One from Silverstone
« on: July 07, 2014, 11:48:25 PM »
Great shots. As thrilling as the Alonso vs. Vettel battle was on TV, I can only imagine how exciting it was in person. What an incredible atmosphere for an F1 race. I hope to attend an F1 race in Silverstone someday.

I have a proposal for any Brits out there. I'll let you stay at my house in Austin for the USGP and shuttle you back and forth to the track if you do the same for me in England for the 2015 British GP ;D

Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: July 07, 2014, 11:44:18 PM »

Thanks!  Would you believe I took the on my kitchen table?  ;D  The Merc is a CMC 1/18 scale diecast model shot in a tent on black acrylic.

I guess that's kinda like a studio. Shows what I know! LOL ;D

Sports / Re: Cars cars cars (and some bikes)
« on: June 18, 2014, 02:57:04 PM »
Amazing shots, Tom. I love the wide-angle pan blur, color balance, and overall processing.

Roo: Great shot of the Merc! Is this a studio shot, or a clever bit of post processing?

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