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EOS Bodies / Re: What next?
« on: February 11, 2011, 07:39:01 AM »

LOL. You both, as hobbyists, have high demands when you claim that Canon produces inferior products. I bet you want 10.000,- $$$ IQ but only want to pay 100,- $$$. You're not even making (much?) money since you are not professional. If you are complaining about IQ, I would invest in a workshop to learn and take better pictures. Strange that top photographers never complain about equipment and just take amazing pictures.

As owning couple of L lens + a few others not particularly cheap (like EF-S 15-85) I've already spent a lot more on Canon stuff than you think (I'm nevertheless happy to report that people who actually have seen my pictures did not see the need to enroll me some photography course).

Please note that I was not complaining on IQ (in particular not those new lenses that I have like EF 100 2.8L IS which is in my view outstanding) but no matter how I look the recently introduced 60D is clearly inferior compared to D7000. Both IQ wise and from handling point of view. Not to mention features like dual SD slot that allows separating RAW or JPG or pictures from video.
Have you ever checked how WB, flash exposure correction or middle AF point setting can be done using 60D?

So having good but maybe a bit overpriced lenses is just one side of the story.

EOS Bodies / Re: What next?
« on: February 11, 2011, 06:42:50 AM »
I will hold back with any investments in my hobby for now ( I admit that I am lusting for the 70-200 2.8 IS II, but I will manage to keep that urge under control) and wait what this year brings. If the D800 becomes what people expect from Nikon and if the 5DMk.III ends up being the luke-warm lets-not-canibalize-our-valuable-1D(s)-line "upgrade" that people have started to expect from Canon, I am gone.

I couldn't have said it any better myself.
This will be a decisive year for both Canon and for Canon users.
It's just not possible to endlessly introduce premium price new lens variants while offering inferior bodies in order not cannibalize the flagship product.

EOS Bodies / Re: \
« on: January 26, 2011, 04:02:44 PM »
It looks to good to be true but
would be on my must have list...

EOS Bodies / Re: white balance issues
« on: January 14, 2011, 10:37:46 AM »
+1 for gray card. Auto WB sucks indoors, there are way too few presets and otherwise it's just a too long trial and err.
Canon has a lot of space here for improvement.

EOS Bodies / Re: The 60D Needs AF Microadjustment
« on: December 14, 2010, 04:30:30 AM »
However, it seems funny to me that one would totally reject the 60D because it lacks this one feature.  Most do not use it or need to use it.

I don't think that some folks reject the 60D just because of one (in my view rarely used) feature. The 60D generally fell short of expectations. It does not mean that it has no improvements over e.g. the 50D or 550D. Better battery life is good, but please do not overrate it. No matter how long the battery lasts it will run out of juice at some point of time. Thus not having a spare battery is not an option for any serious photographer. A longer battery time is a good change though.

Same goes to the articulating LCD. Very nice, especially for macro shooters. For serious videographers/cinematographers an external monitor or LCD viewfinder is equally if not more important. It's just too bad that HDMI output drops to 480p during recording (unlike 7D).

Back to this AF microadjustment. Most people can leave without it, but what would it cost to Canon (especially that it already exist in other bodies)? A SW feature, close to zero cost. People not opting to use it just could leave it at zero.
Canon bodies tend to have less powerful SW than others. Compare 60D e.g. with D7000. E.g. more preset WB options, built-in intervalometer etc. So AF removal is just a step pointing to the wrong direction.
A very strong indication of missing features is the mere existence of Magic Lantern (not yet for 60D). Just google a bit.

Why 60D has generally fell short of expectations (even though having some improvements)? Canon is no longer leading the high ISO low noise race even in the semi-pro class. When replacing CF with SD, D7000 got 2 SD slots, while 60D has got only one. The very useful AF selection joystick has gone. Instead the SET button is competing now with other functions for center AF point selection (or you have to push en extra button).

I don't want to beat on this anymore. After all 60D is not a bad cam, just maybe people with some good glasses were expecting a bit more. Fanboys will keep being happy; others may seek something better or keep what they have.

Lenses / Re: New EF-S Lenses ?
« on: November 23, 2010, 04:45:27 AM »
I'm also thinking that although the current lenses may well work fine for the current 18mp crop models, they may well start to show a few weaknesses perhaps not with the next step up, but maybe the step after that, thus getting new glass out over the next couple of years would set the stall out for new crop bodies in 2013 onwards, which by recent jumps could see crops at 25-30mp by 2013/14

Current lenses start to show weaknesses already when mounted on 7D (60D/550D) if I interpret DxOMark charts correctly.
The EF 24-105 that shines with FF/APS-H does not have any green in the Resolution/Global map:

EF-S 15-85 manages to keep up at the wide angle,
but EF-S 17-55 not really:

So IMHO Canon should stop this crazy megapixel race and concentrate on real features (just one example: single SD slot in 60D vs. dual SD slot in Nikon D7000).

Maybe they make money on lenses not bodies anymore so that's behind the megapixel race. The more megapixels, the bigger need to change to higher resolution (more expensive) EF-S lenses (look at the price of 15-85!).
But isn't APS-C for those that price matters? Anyhow, megapixel race has a future: Lens resolution race...
Cheap APS-C bodies to attract people and then spend a fortune on EF-S lenses...

Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: October 01, 2010, 08:24:20 AM »
I expect that there will be either a EF-S 15-55 2.8 IS, or 15-50 2.8 IS to replace the current 17-55 which is getting a bit long in the tooth now.

That would be a quite logical step from Canon if they'd like to provide the same range for EF-S users as the EF 24-70 f/2.8 for FF.

However going towards the wide angle may not be the perfect lens for some (including me). The wide end has quite some perspective distortion that let alone artistic photos have more cons as pros.
Also variable aperture zooms are the fastest at the wide end (though e.g. the 15-85 is f/3.5 only between 15-17 and the f/4 range is also quite short) so that can be covered quite easily e.g. with the 15-85.

I'm actually happy that 17-85 was extended to 15-85 as if I don't have any other choice I can still use the wide end (though I'd rarely go less than 20-22).

The shallow DOF (that comes with the big aperture) combined with the wide angle can be almost as tricky to use as a tilt-shift without its advantages.

That's why I'd consider a decent fast zoom (can be also EF-S) in the range of 24-70 or 35-70 or around that as perfect candidate for EF-S "L".
That combined with the excellent EF-S 15-85 walkaround (the other EF-S "L" candidate)+ one of the new EF 70-200 variants (IS f/4 or f/2.8 II; zoom doesn't need to be EF-S) would very well satisfy most non-artistic needs.

Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 30, 2010, 10:06:12 AM »
I'd love to see some f/2 and wider glass that's optimized for APS-C bodies to conserve size and weight.  30-60 seems like a strange focal length though, maybe 35-70?

Would not mind 35-70 f/2 either (event though I consider it a bit long for APS-C as a general purpose lens).
Actually 35-70 f/2 has been rumored a lot already.

I'll stick for a long time with my EF-S 15-85 as walkaround. Many people asking already why isn't that an "L"? Who cares if IQ is fine? I wish Canon continues that kind of IQ lenses at an affordable price and if that helps without any kind of unnecessary labels.

Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 30, 2010, 09:01:05 AM »
The 50mm f/1.2L?

Way too expensive for a single 50mm prime. (Isn't 50mm the easiest to manufacture?) But I'd pay even more for a 30-60 f/2.0 IS USM (and I'd be willing to trade IS for 1/3 of the price) that has decent IQ already from f/2.8.

Lenses / Re: Perfect first EF-S "L"
« on: September 30, 2010, 08:17:19 AM »
My dream lens: 30-60 f/2.0 IS USM.
I don't care if it's L or not. L is just a label and I don't care about labels, rather IQ.

An EF 24-70 f/2.8 mk II IS USM would be also great (for a reasonable price).

Canon seems to be in no rush introducing good fast lenses in the 30-60 range. A few good ones (like EF 35mm f/1.4) have a really big price tag. Others (like EF 50 f/1.4) could have some IQ enhancements. A fast lens that requires significant stop down for decent IQ is missing the point.

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