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Lenses / Re: What lens are you patiently waiting for?
« on: March 30, 2012, 11:36:14 AM »
So does everybody want the EF 14-24 2.8L or are you all just trying to make a cool design on the web page?   :P

I'm curious to see how big this nested box of quoted posts will get and if it will fit on 1 screen.   :)

... You'll be walking along boardwalks and standing literally 3 feet from open thermals, "pots" and geysers that have so much visual interest you'll feel like there is no way to frame it without sacrifice, so go wide.... 

Very good point for justifying a 10-22 or equivalent.  Don't leave home without it.

I've did a fair amount of landscape photog when I had my 15-85.   Not home now but if I check my exif data, I would expect 95% of my shots are at 15mm.  I don't recall not getting a shot because I could not get wider. 

So bottom line is, I think you would be fine with 15mm.   However, if you bring a 10-22 or equivalent, I doubt that lens would ever leave your body and you would discover that a lot of shots would wider than 15mm.

If you are in investing in this trip and are planing to take time for photog (as apposed to a quick pass thru), I'd rent a 10-22.  If you are planning to stick with crop, at least for a while, I'd buy the 10-22. 

Also, make sure you have or rent a telephoto zoom for those animal shots.  Something like a 70-200 at a minimum. 

Good luck and enjoy your trip.   

Lenses / Re: 35L mk II ?
« on: March 28, 2012, 11:13:43 PM »
Just for curiosity, as most of you are waiting for a new 35L, what is your complain with this lens or expectation for the new one?

I reckon it would be weather sealing and sharper corners wide open, right?

I've bought it a few months ago, and it's my favourite on my 5D2. Super sharp wide open in the centre (where it matters to me when shooting portraits), and sharp across the whole frame over f/4-5.6 (where it matters to me when shooting other stuff). Love its size and weight too (although it seems big for a prime lens).

Very nice lens. I would buy it now again (and would not wait for the mkII). The way Canon are pricing their new releases, I reckon  it will cost over 2K for the new 35L  :(

For me mostly WS.  Currently shooting a crop body so I'm not too concerned about the edges but I am hoping 2013 is the year I get a FF so that will eventually matter .  I was tempted to pick up the current 35L with the Christmas time rebates but decided to hold off.   If the new mk II price follows the mk II 24-70 trend, I may get the mk I.   Still saving up for the lens anyway so I got time to hold off. 

Lenses / Re: What lens are you patiently waiting for?
« on: March 28, 2012, 08:00:55 PM »
a new 50mm f1.4 (L preferably)
with build and IQ like the 100 f2.8L macro
similar size to current 50 f1.4
engineering plastics would keep it light

it would be a very niffty fifty

+ 1 VERY nifty. 

Lenses / Re: What lens are you patiently waiting for?
« on: March 28, 2012, 09:49:54 AM »
35L f/1.4 II

Site Information / Re: Bring Back Karma – NOW!
« on: March 27, 2012, 07:26:08 PM »
Only bring back the Karma if it can be reconfigured which I understand at this point it is very limited.

If you could see what posts you got dinged or applauded for plus you were prevented from dinging the same post (and maybe poster) over and over then I might be interested

What I learned in the last several weeks was, if you post your opinion (or preference) and in a non-threating way, you will get smitten by someone.

Lenses / Re: EF-S 15-85?
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:31:53 AM »

15-85 Pros
- Excellent IQ
- Ring type USM
- Accurate and quick AF
- Very good build
- Excellent walk-around focal lenght
- Seems to hold its value well for resale purposes

15-85 Cons
- Variable aperture
- not necessarily a con but just moving off 15mm and you are at F4
- Excessive distortion and vignetting at 15mm
- May have a little lens creep when pointed upwards (mine had just a smidge)
- External zooming

15-85 review

Not completely clear on what your object or needs are, so I would consider the following and sell your 18-135:
- 24-105 (might work better in addition to your 12-24)
- 15-85
- might consider the 17-55 instead, again not clear on your needs 

Lenses / Re: If you could only have one
« on: March 26, 2012, 09:48:17 PM »
Well for my 7D, I'd pick my 16-35 II.   Sharp, reasonable fast, and wide to normal range.  Besides it my most used lens. 

Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: ETTL vs Manual for fill flash
« on: March 26, 2012, 01:28:45 PM »
As a general rule, use manual for static subjects and ETTL for moving.   Try using FEC when trying to change 1 or more ETTL contolled flash. 

Canon General / Re: Starting lens upgrade.
« on: March 26, 2012, 08:14:57 AM »
First things first, I've been thinking now to get nice collection of L-series lenses and get rid of EF-S.
At the moment I own 7D with 17-55mm f2.8 (won't sell that one) and basic kit lens 18-135mm.

Lens to get:
 - 16-35 f2.8L
 - 24-105 f4L
 - 70-200 f2.8L II
 - 100 f2.8L Macro
And maybe some prime 50mm f1.4 or 1.2.

And later on when got those, move to FF body and keeping 7D as second body.
Any thoughts about this idea?

The lens you listed as bullets are the exact  lens I currently have for my 7D except my 70-200 is the F4 IS version.  I had the 15-85 but sold it last year.  The next lens on my list is the 35 1.4 II which is rumored later this year (hoping mkII is WS).   If the price of the new 35 follows the price of the new 24-70, I may get the 50L instead. 

So obviously I think your lens map is appropriate except you have some redundancy with the 17-55 and 16-35.  Why are you wanting both these lens with a crop body?

Edit:  Oh I see, retread your post, sorry.  So get your 16-35 last when you get your FF.  Then you may consider selling your 17-55 to help fund lens/body.   Looking forward to adding a FF as well but it will be a while before I get the funds.   

Lenses / Re: Wide-Angle Prime for Crop Cameras?
« on: March 25, 2012, 05:16:33 PM »
That's a tough one.  I don't consider wide until about 15, 17mm crop (24, 28 FF).  Nothing in the Canon lineup in that price range, not familiar with all the 3rd party brand options.  What are you considering wide?

For primes, I was told that the 24mm f/2.8 is considered a wide prime. But I did some test shots with it, and i found it to be really soft. That's the widest prime I've been able to find.

if 24 is wide enought for you on a crop, check out the brand new 24 2.8 with IS.  Not sure if it is available yet and it might be a little above your price range

Whoever told you 24 is wide must have been referring to FF. 

Lenses / Re: Wide-Angle Prime for Crop Cameras?
« on: March 25, 2012, 04:36:58 PM »
That's a tough one.  I don't consider wide until about 15, 17mm crop (24, 28 FF).  Nothing in the Canon lineup in that price range, not familiar with all the 3rd party brand options.  What are you considering wide?

EOS Bodies / Re: With lens, without lens
« on: March 25, 2012, 03:05:41 PM »
Get the kit.  Sell the 28-135mm lens.  You will notice the difference, the 24-105mm L is much better.
After that, you might want longer, if so, sell one of the 70-200mm lenses and get a 100-400mmL.  400mm on a FF is about the same as 250mm on a crop.

Dido, thinking the exact same before I even got to Mt S's post.   I'm jealous, I want a 5D3 to go with my 7D.    :).

Btw, nice set of lens. 

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Buying 60D, what lens + accessories get?
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:23:23 AM »
[The 24-105 works very well on a crop as do all EF lens. The sweet spot of the lens is in the middle, so having the large EF sized middle means good IQ right to the edge.

I know the standard advice from enthusiasts and photo stores is "get best L glass no matter what (your budget is)". But again - except for the build quality, a 17-55/2.8 will do better on a crop body than a 24-105/4 due to the larger aperture: more creativity, faster af. Any you'll certainly get better pictures and more fun if you put your money into a ef-s lens like the 15-85 that actually is made for your body and put the remaining bucks you didn't spend for L glass into a flash like the 480ex2.

I would seriously consider the 10-22 plus 24-105 option.  105 on a crop will give you decent telephoto anyway (168mm FF).  Probably get the 24-105 first and save up for the 10-22.  Personally I would hold off on everything else until you get your essential lens.

Good advice, if you are set on a L ef lens on a crop body and are into changing lenses frequently - personally, I hate it. And if you've got a wider lens, you can still crop from your 18mp sensor to get objects further away. If you've got a narrow one, then you've got to step back - if you can. Thus my advice: For a crop body, at first only get the 15-85, this range is covered by so many Canon and 3rd party lenses for a reason.

All good points and I agree.  A few more things to mull over to help your decision:

-  All 3 lens (15-85, 17-55, 24-105) have IS and a similar price--15-85 a little less.
-  If shallow DOF is important, then the 17-55 wins
-  The 15-85 has a variable aperture.  Barely moving off 15mm and you are already at F4 so the F3.5 is only at the very widest
-  The 15-85 is an excellent focal length for walk-around
-  Haven't owned the 17-55 but I believe it has a little better IQ than the 15-85. 
-  I would only recommend the 24-105 in conjunction with the 10-22 on crop bodies even though I have a 24-105 for my 7D and no 10-22.  Instead, I have the 16-35, constant aperture and weather sealing are important to me.

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