Seriously tempting as a street shooting body, whats the AF performance like now with the updates?
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I imagine similar conversations took place in Britain in the 1960's when the first Japanese motorbikes arrived in the UK. At first they just weren't good enough, compared to Nortons and Triumphs. Early adopters were sneered at, the proud riders of Brit iron rumbled and roared into the distance (usually stopping around the corner to fix oiled plugs).
But the Japanese persisted and they got better, bit by bit. More Hondas and Kawasakis appeared and people started to actually enjoy them, their ease of use and their reliability gained supporters. The Brit manufacturers secure in the vocal support of their customers dismissed the upstarts.
As the product developed their handling improved, their performance improved - they were of course always more reliable.
Then another new generation of products arrived and suddenly they were faster, better handling and of course still more reliable and cheaper - much cheaper. Almost overnight the British bike industry disappeared, the manufacturers just couldn't grasp that people are ultimately pragmatic, often conservative but ultimately pragmatic.
Why buy a bike that is slower, doesn't handle or brake as well and is a hassle to own and use when compared to the new stuff and much more expensive? Answer only an idiot or sentimentalist would and there just weren't enough of those about to support an industry.
I own a Canon 60d, I'm pretty happy with it, but I'm thinking of upgrading, so I await the new 7D mk2 with interest. But I wonder how good will it be? How much better for example will it be compared to a Panasonic GH4?
It will definitely be a lot more expensive, the body will likely be 20% heavier and (assuming the 7D is an APSC) all of the lenses will be much larger.
So will the new Canon's feature set and image quality be a sufficient step above the GH4 to justify the cost and weight?
Will I go from my old Triumph to a flash Norton or jump for the Kawasaki?
Pretty good point but of course it all comes down to numbers. Economics of scale and all of that. Im a DSLR guy myself. DSLR for Video and stills and have a BMCC as well for video only. How large a market will FF have in 3-5 years and will it be large enough to merit continued investment? I like your point and Im thinking that we might see a much smaller product line down the road if the demand shrinks more.
I worked for Apple for 15 years and I'm well aware of what technology can do and how focused companies like Apple are. Apple with a market cap 10x that of Canon and Nikon put together has no intention to pull back on developing what small mobile products can do. Of course a smart phone is not a FF camera "Duh" ... but its all about market economics pure and simple.
“2013 was the worst year for the photography industry in a long long time (maybe even decades). After the official numbers have been published by CIPA (the Camera & Imaging Products Association)”
I truly believe that VIDEO has kept DSLR sales more robust then they might otherwise have been up till now.
Of course a smart phone is not an equal replacement for a DSLR. Not sure who would think that. But thats not the point. The point is that enough customers feel that smart phones are good enough. That has clearly effected digital cameras sales across the board. Oh and Apple and Samsung will keep improving their technology which will result in even more erosion of dedicated camera sales.
I doubt if any of this comes as a surprise to Canon and Nikon – both long time leaders in the marketplace and no doubt well-positioned for the long haul. This is one reason why I personally would never consider any of their competitors for a primary system investment. (I would consider Fuji for a secondary system, but would not be buying into the system to the extent I have Canon or would do with Nikon).
The one I'm aware of is that as film was an expensive medium, that offered limited shots, the photographers took their time composing a shot, thinking through all aspects before pulling the trigger.
So that leaves us digital era photographers with a more reckless reputation with a less than meticulous approach towards composition.
you may want to try the 6D first, and if you dislike it , then you might also want to try the A7.
I have the 6D , the A7R, the A7 and A7s on order, and I am selling the A7R due to the terrible shutter shock and extremely slow AF. but if you shoot msotly landscape or on tripod based apps, then there is nothing better than the Sony A7R.
I compared many times my D800E vs my A7R before I sold my last copy of D800E last month, and I know as opposed to some die-hard Nikon guys say, the A7R will always win over the D800E. That said , I do not shoot landscape but mostly lowlight events, so I just prefer the A7 and 6D. if I use the A7R or D800E for lowlight handheld event use, then I almost always have to resample most of my 36mp imges at 18 or 16mp to reduce the purple noise in the shadow. So for now I still use Canon sometimes Nikon too , but as the next gen Sony A7 series camera gets similar quality AF system to the AF in the A6000, I will go all Son or the Sony A7 series + Panasonic GH4. YMMV.
I've been debating on this for a couple months now since I don't really use them for more than taking pictures of my kids and some occasional outings with our friends. It is a pain to lug around with the battery grip and kids stuff and I don't feel like I'm really getting anymore good use of out if (although everytime I take a picture they come out AMAZING). Anyone have any recommendations on something new? I haven't been following the mirrorless cameras much but they seem to be the 'next big thing'. My only requirement is that the camera shoots in RAW as I love to edit photos and touch them up in Lightroom.
Mirrorless could be it. They have always been weak in the AF performance, but they are catching up. Check out this video, from TheCameraStoreTV, where they compare the newest mirrorless against each other, and have a Nikon D4S as a reference. Quite amazing and surprising! Photographing kids, AF performance is important.
Image quality should also be amazing.
looks like an excellent partner for the 15-85
With more and more info on the new Sigma 50 Art available, I´d say that Canon, Nikon and Zeiss really need to check up on their lens strategies. If Sigma delivers the same optical quality on more lenses and fix their bad (and deserved) AF reputation ...