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EOS Bodies / Re: Skipping the 5D-s. What do you want in 5D4?
« on: February 16, 2015, 06:45:05 AM »
My guess is that FPS may stay at 6 as moving much beyond that would potentially start to cut into the 1DX market even if the 1DX mk2 gets even faster.

There seems quite a bit of room for other improvements, maybe AF that will also be on the 1DX mk2, 4K video, a bit of a resolution boost, dual pixel AF, perhaps even the often rumoured hybrid viewfinder with the ability to switch between EVF and OVF or a tillable screen?

EOS Bodies / Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed
« on: February 05, 2015, 10:35:31 AM »
The pricing may be high compared to Nikon but given how long it has been between the D800 high MP body to this, I think it will "work" in that the people who would buy this camera are those who have been waiting all this while for the Canon high MP body; the ones willing to pay more to stay in the Canon system. As in most (obviously not "all") people who would choose the lower priced D810 and 14-24 already did so ages ago, probably :P

That would be my guess as well, your talking $1000 more than the D810 at the moment but if you own 2-3 or more high end lenses then selling up really isn't going to save you a great deal or money if any.

EOS Bodies / Re: Full Specifications of the EOS Rebel 760D
« on: February 05, 2015, 07:35:34 AM »
My guess is that its just a few higher resolution Canon sensor. As to what that means for the 7D2 and 70D the rumour doesn't mention dual pixel AF and for the former especially 20 MP rather than 24 MP potentially ment faster FPS which is likely a trade off many would make for an action camera.

I actually think entry level APSC is where resolution might well count for more, as you start to go up in the market theres a stronger likelihood that those after resolution will just buy FF anyway where as at entry level your dealing with a size/cost much lower than any FF DSLR.

The 760D with a top plate LCD does potentially interest me to put my old EF 35mm F/2 to use.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Pentax working on FF DSLR
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:08:36 AM »
It does probably make sense for them as they've got a built in market with people owning FF compatible K-mount lenses, to attract a wider market it might I'd guess be rather more difficult.

The advantage Pentax had at APSC was IMHO that Canon and Nikon left more of a gap for a smaller AND high quality system, at FF I think the likes of the 6D/D610/D750 have already plugged that gap with anything significantly smaller than them being hard to create.

I think if it was probably 1/4 of the size and weight, and was around $60 then it might pique the interest of the smartphone users.

The problem I see for the camera makers is they aren't doing anything in terms of gradual introduction to photography. It's either a smartphone with no zoom, weak flash, basic AF or it's a full blown camera or in this instance lens adapter & lens.

Smartphone users are the former P&S users in the main. They want simplicity, immediacy, practical (transport wise) and relative low cost. This is not really satisfying that need  :-X

I think for something like this to work it needs to be much better integrated into the phone, either a unit you can really attach properly or a built in lens mount.

EOS Bodies / Re: POLL: Price of 5Ds
« on: February 02, 2015, 03:38:08 AM »
It can never be a lot more then the Nikon D810 or people start running away from Canon anyways

Look at it this way though, if this camera is say $800-1200 more than the D810 and you already have a significant investment in Canon lenses is it going to be worthwhile switching?

I think the jump in resolution/IQ from the 5D2/5D3/1Ds3 to the D800 was more significant and the knowledge that there was likely going to be no Canon response for years ment that Nikon could target switching users much moreso than Canon.

Plus of course Canon is already the market leader and doesn't need to go chasing users switching brands as much at the cost of its profit margins. Rather its likely to focus on making money from its existing customers, especially in an area like this that has a lot of pent up demand.

For users not invested in a system as well Canon does have the advantage of several unique lenses that Nikon lacks(17mm TSE, 85mm 1.2, new 11-24mm, etc) that might get them a lot of higher end sales even if there not competitive on price.

EOS Bodies / Re: POLL: Price of 5Ds
« on: February 01, 2015, 02:13:07 PM »
Let's see. Over the last couple of releases, Canon has surprised us with the prices.

The 100-400L II came in far less than people were expecting for such an advanced lens. It's better than Nikon's and for much less $$$

The 400DO II also came in at a much cheaper price, even with the most advanced DO tech ever put into a telephoto lens!

I don't see Canon being stupid enough to price the 5Ds very high. It's also why it did not come with a 1D type body.

I really can't see "very" high happening given the relative failure of the D3x and 1Ds mk3 but $4000ish isn't really that close to those cameras on release in real terms, its just a bit of a premium over rival high resolution bodies from Nikon and Sony.

You look as well at the kind of lenses Canon would likely be hoping people buy with it like the 24-70mm F/2.8, the new 11-24mm F/4, the TS-E's, the 85mm 1.2, etc and there all pretty expensive.

My guess as well is that whilst the jump in resolution is significant its not nearly as significant as the D800 was, both relative to the resolution its surpassing and to the needs of many users. By pricing the D800 very competitively Nikon could get a good number of users to switch brands, here I think its more about Canon holding onto existing customers and if the alternative means selling a large investment in lenses then Nikon won't overall be cheaper.

EOS Bodies / Re: POLL: Price of 5Ds
« on: February 01, 2015, 12:36:47 AM »
It'll start at $4199, and in less than 6 months it'll be at $3499.

Trust me.

I would guess around that starting price but with a slower and lesser drop.

EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: January 30, 2015, 08:27:42 AM »
It could I spose be that ISO 6400 is the maximum "non boost" value, Canon do often differentiate between that and the actual maximum.

Honestly as a high resolution body though I think you could argue that the most important unknown would be whether it offers a native ISO 50 with superior noise/DR performance.

Price will likely be key as well given that the current 5D sells for about the same as the D810 you would expect it will be significantly higher. Honestly I think its tricky to tell just how price sensitive this market is, the really high cost double grip bodies like the D3x and 1Ds mk3 didn't do very well but you could argue that Canon do have lenses like the 17/24mm TS-E's, the 24-70mm F/2.8, the 85mm 1.2 , the MP-E 65mm and the new 11-24mm F/4 that target a high end resolution market and aren't cheap themselves

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]
« on: January 24, 2015, 11:09:06 AM »
If Canon put out a Rebel with the 20 MP 70D/7D II sensor and the old 7D AF plus improve the handling adding a top plate LCD I think that will be more than adequate.

I actually think the key selling point people overlook for the Rebels is the lens lineup. Canon now has an optically excellent kit zoom that can use a polariser, it also has the 10-18mm at $300, the 55-250mm at $250 and the old 50mm 1.8 at $120.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]
« on: January 24, 2015, 02:28:27 AM »
Keep in mind that pure sensor performance of Nikon D3300 kills the performance of 7DII in some aspects. They need to step up. They need to cannibalise themselves in certain aspects, or somebody else will do that. I believe it´s time for better sensor than the one mounted in 7DII. It was the last cam with this low ISO pathetic performance, and it´s good, because sports shooters don´t need low ISO performance and most resolution as much as other things. I hope Canon will do what they have to do, and at that moment I go and buy their camera. Otherwise I buy nothing. Hope they see it.

What you could question I spose is whether Canon's weakness with DR is really as important with entry level bodies as it is higher up. Is someone who's really interested in landscape photography to the extent they post process extensively going to be buying an entry level DSLR?

I would say if anything is hurting Canon at the moment its probably more than the D5xxx lineup has for awhile had a much more advanced AF system. AF is of course also the advantage the camera will have over mirrorless rivals so maximising that is IMHO more important than improving the DR of the sensor.

Again as well I would remind people that the 1.6 crop of a Canon APSC camera would mean that the current 24 1.5 crop APSC sensors wouldn't have the same resolution. Honestly though my opinion is that this rumour is likely an invented wish list with little to back it up.

Landscape / Re: Please share your snow/ Ice Photos with us in CR.
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:26:28 PM »

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Discontinued
« on: January 21, 2015, 11:10:47 PM »
Wow! I guess the price just wasn't right for this one, esp since it wasn't weather-sealed and wasn't that much better optically vs the Canon version. I wonder how many are actually out there.

Never really understood why Sigma haven't sealed there latest lenses, with a general zoom like this its going to stand out as a clear negative in a lot of users eyes.

It does seem to be generally that these kinds of slightly extended mid range zooms are very tough for third parties to do well, I'm guessing because there areas the camera companies have invested a ton of money in as they get a lot of kit sales from them. Stuff like the Art primes is arguably the reverse as your talking more specialist lenses where the 3rd party markers can target different lens mounts.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]
« on: January 21, 2015, 11:03:51 PM »
Unless Canon is using that same 24mp that Nikon uses for their entry level cameras...Canon does not have a 24mp. They have two. 18mp and 20mp. One is dreadfully old, and the 20mp is not much better. DXOMARK has the ratings on those sensors.

As has been said this cannot be the case, the smaller Canon APSC sensor would result in a lower pixel count.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel 750D Spec List [CR1]
« on: January 21, 2015, 12:17:12 PM »
I think its certainly possible to have a camera of a similar kind of size to the current standard rebels and also offer improved handling and build though, maybe not to quite the degree of the 70D but still an improvement.

When it comes to mirrorless I think its notable that recently we've actually seen bodies starting to grow in size(T-X1, E-M1, GH3/4, NX1). With those cameras your really no longer talking about something significantly smaller/lighter than a rebel, what your talking about is a camera with superior handling/build, that's a market that an upgraded Rebel sized body could also aimed for.

I agree with you. The rebel (almost) has intentionally crippled buttons/controls and those could be easily improved. And small size/package is great. For me it depends what I'm shooting. For casual stuff I enjoy tossing the M + 22mm in my jacket/coat pocket. I still use a rebel with the new 24mm pancake as a "carry everywhere" camera. However, for real shooting, I just personally feel the larger cameras feel/work better in my hands. As they say, YMMV as I have rather large hands.

Valid points on the mirrorless as well. My buddy likes to remind me occasionally that his X-T1 is really no smaller then a rebel. I don't have the specs in front of me, but with so much metal construction I think it's even heavier (or it just feels that way to me). A relatively small advantage many mirrorless cameras have though, even if they are a similar size overall body, the lens mount area of the camera can be much thinner, therefore a lens won't stick out quite as far. Which if you stick to small primes, becomes a nice advantage. But I think most people agree, once you start to mount any size lens to most cameras, the camera size just becomes a smaller factor. The X-T1 with the standard kit lens is really not any more inconspicuous then a DSLR with standard zoom. However I will concede something like the X100S(T) with that nice 35mm equiv integrated pancake lens is much more stealthy.

The area that DSLR's obviously can't follow mirrorless is in very small bodies and that's doubtless why Canon released the M and indeed why it targeted it in Japan where these bodies seem to sell best.

Again though I think a lot of mirrorless growth in the west is based on larger setups and isn't so much about the size saving of losing the mirror as filing a gap that Canon and Nikon have left via targeting all of their smaller bodies at the lower end of the market.

Given that so much of everyone's focus seems to be on moving upwards in the market I don't think it would be at all surprising to see Canon look to plug this gap in their line up somewhat. Espeically when you consider its backed up by a raft of cheap lenses(the new 18-55mm kit, the 10-18mm, the 55-250mm, etc) that balance well on a Rebel sized body and have good optics.

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