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Quote from: llmogen link=topic=22479.msg432305#msg432305 date
The more people keep talking up Sony sensors in Nikon cameras, the more people start thinking that the sensor is the one part that's keeping them from becoming the next Ansel Adams.  The fact that we Canon-ites can entertain the idea of getting an A7 solidifes this fact. 

Very well put, quote of the week !

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 03, 2014, 10:53:24 AM »
canon vs. nikon.

T. Northrup wants to switch to nikon but can’t fully.

ps: i did not watch it i just read some of the comments.
but i though some here are maybe interested. ;)

and it sure will keep the fire warm for a while.

Quote from: Robert Brody
I am a professional still shooter, so I go with what works best. Canon sensors are so far behind the D810 now that a few lenses at certain price points do not make for the winning system. Nikon is also being more aggressive as of late in sealing holes in the lens lineups over Canon. Also missing is the serious fact that Nikon's flash system is a lot nicer. At lower budgets picking what feels better is more important than anything else, but if you're serious about shooting Canon has a lot of sensor work to do before they can be taken seriously against the D810/D4s combo or D810/Df combo.

Quote from: Tony Northrup
I raved about the Nikon image quality and recommended it for everything in the medium focal range. The D810 slaughtered the 5D Mark III in our review. We totally agree about all of this.

This guy is so nauseating that I'm actually real glad he's knocking the Canon. He'd be a real Jonah on the Canon team.
I too haven't the patience to watch this one, and that's despite his attractive wife / partner or whatever she is.
I would just add in case she happens to read CR, if she wants to be shown how to use a canon properly I'm happy to oblige.

Landscape / Re: Beautiful sunsets
« on: September 03, 2014, 10:45:21 AM »
2x 4 shots manually blended. Both two sets were same, except in second 4 shots I put my hand in front of the sun to prevent the flare. (It almost worked)

Lovely picture, you seems to be knocking out some lovely atmospheric shors at the moment !

This really has me baffled.
85mm f1.8 @ f4, 1/1250. ISO 100
Shot on 5DII and 1100D. The crop camera down sampled to match 5D as that camera works out at about 8.5 mp when cropped and the 1100D is a 12 mp aps camera. Hand held, but had to resort to live view focusing as I couldn't believe the results.

100% crops from each camera.

Crop-A appears to have less dynamic range / poor shadow detail.

What can't you beleive about the results?

I remember being able to see the difference in resolution between an eight mp APS camera and a twelve mp, but in this instance when comparing 8.5 of the 5DII against the 12 of APS there is no appreciable difference.

Don't read too much into shadow detail etc, the cameras were not identically matched.

(People here seem to have missed the fact that I'm only complaining about the 5D III's low ISO performance and noise characteristics. The amount of misrepresentation of my position on this whole subject is staggering, but I guess that's how people react when someone tries to reveal any amount of truth about the REAL quality of Canon sensors at low ISO. Instead of acceptance, denial. Instead of discussion, it's outright hostility or a bunch of crude jokes. Canon sensors suck balls at low ISO, compared to the norm's just the simple truth of the matter. It may not affect everyone's work, but it doesn't change the facts.)

You'd better e mail this guy and tell him how misguided he is then:

Or better still ask for a little advice:

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Guessing Game- Canon or Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 01:27:26 PM »
This seems a suitable thread for the next round of my travel quiz, today based on photos I took this afternoon.

Photo 1.
What is the guy doing?

Photo 2.
What deep question is he pursuing?

Photo 3. Where do these gate lead if he gets the wrong answer?

What camera am I using and where?

I think it's pretty clear to me:

Photo 1: Looking at two cameras
Photo 2: which do I choose, Canon or Nikon ?
Photo 3: Hell

Or, if the guy's a DRone it could be:

Photo 1: Looking at a picture he's shot on a 5DIII
Photo 2: Where's all that noise come from ?
Photo 3: Ridicule

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Guessing Game- Canon or Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:58:27 AM »
Very funny comments, but really it would be impossible to tell the difference on images of this size, and after being squeezed into CR's page.

However I'm going to say I hope for the sake of a certain person who has recent became a DRone's sanity this was shot on Canon, 'cos if it wasn't he's going to be one miserable dude.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:45:47 AM »
I bought a D800 after reading the hype.  It was a waste of money, I sold it and bought a 5D MK III.  The D800 appeals to armchair spec readers, but few that actually use one are happy.


And you interviewed how many D800 owners to come up with this conclusion???

If you prefer Canon over Nikon, great.  Lots of people do.  But to make a generalization like that is a bit much.

Is it really so hard to admit that some people like their Nikons just like some people like their Canons?

different tools for different things man.  In the wedding industry here, the d800 took a while to catch on.  Most nikon guys I knew were opting for a d3s or a d4 or a used d700.  The few that did snag a d800 did like it for the posed formal shots, but stayed away from making that the primary camera ---not because of IQ or capabilities but because of file size.  More of that crowd is snagging d810's now, because it is a better camera than the original model, and because it's a few years later - the d4s is pricey and their d700's are reaching the end of their they are buying the d810 now because they don't have much choice.

In the D810 Nikon also added a small RAW option. I really cannot understand Nikon's thinking in not offering a smaller raw in the D800, especially when those upgrading would be moving from 12 to 36 mp.

Landscape / Re: Within Forests
« on: September 02, 2014, 05:12:59 AM »
A few of mine, all shot with 5DII & 24-105L. First one S E England, last two N W in Lake District

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 02, 2014, 03:12:24 AM »
I'll never buy a Sony camera so long as they use a lossy compressed file format. Maybe that's just more of the high standards crap...I dunno. But, there it is.

You'll never buy a camera that's relatively cheap ($1,300 for the A7), can use your lenses, and solves the problem which you have spent countless hours making...hundreds?...thousands?...of posts about because of a file format that maybe, on rare occasion, might result in an artifact, even though otherwise the camera completely eliminates the noise and artifacts you're so upset about???

I'm done...I'm more SoNikonSuperMegaDR threads. I can't help these people. They need therapists, not sensors.

Better still get a used D800, they now have the depreciation curve of a falling brick. You can now get a used D800 in the UK for half the price of a D810, yet a used 5DIII is like rocking horse S___, unlike the bull S___ that jrista has spouted on this thread. I'm sure Alan at Dale Photographic would be quite happy to send this one out to him:

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 05:11:42 PM »
I just happened on this picture whilst browsing through 500px.

Surely this is a mistake, it must have been shot on a Canon ?'s-bay-by-eyekonik-images?from=popular&only=

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: September 01, 2014, 04:38:41 PM »
The 5D II was the most popular landscape DSLR on the planet until the D800 came along.

Just read what you've written again Jon, I think you're having a complete brain fade.

Those 5DII images were only ever printed at 10x8 - right ?

Glass has gotten better, film no longer exits.

Speak for yourself, I ran a roll of Kodak through my Pentax MX last week :) It is excellent DSLR detox

The wonderful Pentax MX, one of the finest mechanical manual film cameras IMO; a real jewel.

Very broadly speaking Canon users seem to be secure and content with their purchase decision, whereas Nikon users are insecure. This is probably because Nikon users are worried that they wake up in the morning to find that their new purchase has just been replaced by an undated model.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Features seen in the past and absent today
« on: September 01, 2014, 06:25:22 AM »
I wonder why canon packed older cameras with some very useful features that are totally absent in modern cameras. Here I refer to the Canon EOS 1D released in 2001 vs modern professional canon cameras.

I refer strictly to:

1/16,000 shutter speed
X-sync speed 1/500

I would think its to do with it being APS, smaller, lighter shutter, less distance to travel etc. Not on modern pro APS now due to cost / usage considerations I would think.
The 1D was an APS-H body with an electronic shutter.

Quick bit of research; also used CCD rather than CMOS which allowed the use of an electronic shutter. So as CMOS replaced CDD those features were lost.

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