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« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2012, 07:24:14 PM »
Dude, handheld is a style and TONS of movies, tv shows and docs use it.

Sure, and that style is most often achieved by using a shoulder rig and not by actually hand-holding...


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« Reply #90 on: October 30, 2012, 07:24:14 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: October 30, 2012, 07:33:27 PM »
Dude, handheld is a style and TONS of movies, tv shows and docs use it.

Sure, and that style is most often achieved by using a shoulder rig and not by actually hand-holding...

They can also add shake in PP :)
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« Reply #92 on: October 30, 2012, 07:41:22 PM »
Why post? Just why?
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« Reply #93 on: October 30, 2012, 07:42:42 PM »
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« Reply #94 on: October 30, 2012, 07:45:09 PM »
Well theres that :D
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« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2012, 07:57:32 AM »
I'm not sure most people understand this but it is much much much much harder to make a normal zoom than a telephoto zoom. You can make extremely good telephoto zooms day and night for cheap, as evidence by every manufacturers and all the third party telephoto zooms being great lenses.

Making a normal zoom, especially a fast normal zoom with IS is the greatest challenge their is. It is actually much harder to do than making a 200-400mm 1.4x TC lens.

I've spoken to Canon reps and Canon has gone to great lengths to try to make a pro image quality 24-70mm f/2.8 IS lens prototypes, even going as far as making a lens that has a 105mm filter thread.

Fast Normal zooms actually have much bigger elements than fast telephoto zooms do. The 70-200mm f/2.8 has 2 77mm elements and a 60mm element as it's largest elements. The 24-70mm f/2.8 Mk. I has three 77mm elements. The 24-70mm Mk. II has even bigger elements.

So yeah just because it looks bigger doesn't mean it's worth more, you're paying for more air, not glass. If anything a fast normal zoom should cost 2-3 times as much as a equal quality telephoto zoom. The only reason why telephoto zooms are the most expensive is because there is a market for them with sports and wildlife photographers.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS [CR1]
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2012, 08:36:30 AM »
Making a normal zoom, especially a fast normal zoom with IS is the greatest challenge their is.

I was under the impression Canon didn't choose the 24-70/2.8IS prototype because of weight and bulk issues, and not because it's very difficult to add IS to any lens?

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« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2012, 08:36:30 AM »

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« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2012, 11:35:12 PM »
Making a normal zoom, especially a fast normal zoom with IS is the greatest challenge their is.

I was under the impression Canon didn't choose the 24-70/2.8IS prototype because of weight and bulk issues, and not because it's very difficult to add IS to any lens?
i could care less about the weight and bulk they should just release it to
god knows how expensive it would be thought.... $3500?
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« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2012, 01:57:02 AM »
i could care less about the weight and bulk

But since this lens is aimed at the pro market, less weight should be really better if shooting all day. The one thing I find strange though is that people who recommend the much heavier 70-200/2.8is all the time now say that the 100g weight loss on the 24-70ii is important to them :-o

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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2012, 02:29:04 AM »
i could care less about the weight and bulk

But since this lens is aimed at the pro market, less weight should be really better if shooting all day. The one thing I find strange though is that people who recommend the much heavier 70-200/2.8is all the time now say that the 100g weight loss on the 24-70ii is important to them :-o

i'd rather the heavier bulkier lens on a 5Dmk3 than the smaller lighter lens on the bulk of the 1DX
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« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2012, 02:29:04 AM »