A Brief 2013 Canon Roadmap [CR1]

[neuroanatomist]

While this thread remains refreshingly light-hearted, here's a sketch I thought you might like, Neuro.

That was great, thanks!  But...it ended early.  The nuclear physicist hadn't yet joined the party...   

[Jesse]

Do people actually care about APS-C cameras anymore?

[neuroanatomist]

Do people actually care about APS-C cameras anymore?

Since APS-C bodies probably outnumber FF bodies by at least a double-digit ratio (maybe higher), Canon cares about APS-C cameras...a lot!

[Marsu42]

Do people actually care about APS-C cameras anymore?

Except for the bigger viewfinder on ff (unless it's an evf) aps-c has lots of advantages, and with more advanced sensors the iso noise problem will get less pressing - see http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/07/the-full-frame-move

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Nikon uses their own sensors as well as Sony sensors.   however, Glass is far more important than bodies, and the photographer is far more important than either.
I would not worry about a tiny difference in sensors.

[neuroanatomist]

Except for the bigger viewfinder on ff (unless it's an evf) aps-c has lots of advantages, and with more advanced sensors the iso noise problem will get less pressing - see http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/07/the-full-frame-move

I like Roger's blogs, and only rarely does he make an incorrect statement, but this one stuck out:

There are no 18-270mm or even 18-200mm full frame lenses, so the “one lens solution” is basically a crop-sensor only club.

18-200mm is equivalent to 29-320mm on FF, and both Nikon and Canon offer 28-300mm full frame lenses.  My 28-300L does very well as a 'one lens solution'. 

[Dylan777]

Do people actually care about APS-C cameras anymore?

For an average Joe....YES. My sister in law just bought 4Ti and she loves her camera.

For outdoor shooting, we still again alot benefits from crop - REACH.

[wickidwombat]

Well all want a 70D (7D Mark II) and the big megapixel camera now and not in 2013.

And we want a EF 14-24 2.8 L now too.

And Canon wants you to be in waiting... Salivating... so that you will pay 30% more since the anticipation will be a killer 

135 F/1.8L IS USM <----- I Really wants one.

Will you buy it for $2199 ?   

Yep pretty much it's still 1/3 the cost of the 200 f2L and smaller and lighter

[jukka]

Hope technology = significant improvements in sensor architecture and design

been seeing a lot of that from competing brands like Sony and Nikon, wait Nikon's using Sony's sensor right? So I guess it's just Sony??

Nikon uses their own sensors as well as Sony sensors.   however, Glass is far more important than bodies, and the photographer is far more important than either.
I would not worry about a tiny difference in sensors.

Nikon, Zeiss, Leica, Canon , old Minolta, Pentax, Fuji ,  all have good lenses , I do not follow your argumentation, do you mean canon lenses are superior ?

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[K-amps]

Interestingly thats what I am willing to pay for the 200 F2   

You can do the following: Purchase a 135mm f2 and a 7D Mark II (or 70D or something). This gets you a 200mm f2-like combination on crop. That's in your budget, but image quality of the real 200mm on full-frame would probably still be better.

Thanks Ambient... But It's not the reach that gets me excited... but the subject Isolation / DoF that the 200 F2 has also.

This would suffer with the APS-C right?

Interestingly thats what I am willing to pay for the 200 F2   

Interesting, I didn't know you could get a 200mm F/2 IS for 2799$.

Thats right Ramon, and if you are still skeptical... check my profile for list of lenses I don't have   

[Rodknee]

How can there be another Rebel by March 2013??  The T4i just hit stores.

The 650d is available at less than 70% of it's release price in June and a similar price to the 600d at this time last year despite it's later release date so the price has dropped faster. It sounds as though they are still shipping plenty of units so that might indicate a new rebel release in the 'usual' February window. It is about time a new sensor emerged for APS-C especially given the release of the D5200 at a similar release price to the 650d at its release.

[dolina]

EOS 7D Mark II - Probably in 2013
EOS 7D - 1 September 2009 (Firmware 2.0 August 6, 2012)

EOS 70D - Probably first half of 2013
EOS 60D - August 26, 2010
EOS 50D - 26 August 2008
EOS 40D - 20 August 2007

EOS 700D - Probably June 2013
EOS 650D - 8 June 2012
EOS 600D - 7 February 2011
EOS 550D - 8 February 2010
EOS 500D - 25 March 2009

EOS 1200D - Probably first half 2014
EOS 1100D - 7 February 2011
EOS 1000D - 10 June 2008

[LetTheRightLensIn]

"And finally: the rumored high megapixel DSLR (at least 46MP) could be announced during Q3. Unfortunately no specs here, except that it will have 6fps, and a newly designed sensor with very good low ISO performance. No hints about the name, but it will not have the “D” in the name. It's said to be something “very new” and specifically aimed at studio photography. Prototypes already undergoing tests."

Wow so long as they don't leave out the 5D3/1DX AF because it is "just a studio/landscape camera" this sounds awesome.

If they get the low ISO to be more like Exmor and let it have 6fps and the 5D3/1DX AF, wow, the ultimate all around camera. Fantastic reach for wildlife and sports, good enough at 6fps for action for some (not for a main sports pro's primary dedicated body but whatever), amazing AF.  D800 who?

I just pray it is in a 5D3-size body but I'm really fearing a brick .

It would be nice if they also let it shoot crop modes so you don't have to store 46MP for far off birds that only take up the middle 16MP or something, so far that has not been the Canon way, but I hope they would give in. A perfect 12MP mini-RAW tht it could deliver would not do it for that since you'd lose all reach.

But wow, totally new tech for great low ISO, 40MP or more AND 6fps and hopefully 5D3 AF, wow. Man this could be an awesome body! What an insane all-around camera!

Although the very new and specifically for studio make me a little worried that something about the body design might make it weird to use?? Maybe even some larger format ultra brick??

[wickidwombat]

"I just pray it is in a 5D3-size body but I'm really fearing a brick .

I hear ya buddy no need for bricks anymore

[neuroanatomist]

If my 1D X is a brick, then I like bricks!