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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 11:44:25 AM »
86 oz for 24-70 2.8 + 70-200 2.8 zooms vs 56 oz for 24L + 50mm 1.4 + 135L

The speed gain vs weight & versatility. That almost two pounds shed in weight.


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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 11:44:25 AM »

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2013, 12:04:09 PM »
Just try a different approach to your photography and see what happens.

The op has stated this different approach: Carry less weight & size and have more fun, it seems to me that would also exclude juggling multiple primes even if that'd cut some weight, too.

Selling the gear of course comes at a loss of functionality and money, but if the result is more fun with photography it should be worth it - the op should have bought mid-range gear in the first place, see how his usage patterns and skills develop and then step up instead of being talked into buying "the best" (= most expensive & heavy) pro-oriented gear right away.

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2013, 12:15:20 PM »
my suggestion for you is not to downgrade since you will lose decent amount of money when downgrading.  if you really need cash, then sell your 24-70mm II to get 24-105mm...

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2013, 01:12:12 PM »
Hi
I understand the weight issue !! (as i'm 60 and have been reducing the weight of my gear !)
firstly if you don't need 2.8 then.....
70-300L IS is an excellent lens i own it !! (just about every owner raves on it)
24-70 F4 L IS is obviously going to be a good  lens
24-105L IS is a cheaper alternative its a good lens with extra reach over the 24.70 BUT..
beware of the barrel distortion at 24mm (i own it !!) but lightroom takes care of that
Optically and sharpness you will be giving up very very little by changing lenses ..go for it !!

5d3-60D don't know that i'd do that yet ..(wait for 6D +24.70 F4 IS IF !! ones comes out ??)....you do save 200g on weight tho by going to 6D ...your call !!

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2013, 01:30:09 PM »
I have been considering selling my setup

5d3
24-70 2.8 mkii
70-200 2.8 is mkii
Cf cards
600 exrt speedlite

To get a 6d
24-70 f4 is
70-300l
Newer speedlite 430ex ii replacement

I just spent thousands of dollars this year and have hardly used the gear. When I do its for candids or vacations. I wonder if I am wasting the money and should sell it to downgrade to something more enthusiast level and cheaper. Also it's just so much to lug around. Just not sure and wanted some opinions.

I have a simple procedure:
I bought the 5.6 400mm lens for 1200 EUR.
Estimated time of usage: 20 Years.
Price per year: 60 Euro,
price per day: 16 ct.

Compare it to other expenditures (my data as example):
electricity: 1 Euro per day
natural gas: 2,50 Euro per day
Gasoline: 2,50 Euro per day
Health Care: 12 Euro per day
Food and Drinking: 5-10 Euro per day (some sort of health care :)

Use good gear as long as possible and enjoy it ... and do a little bit math!

Best Michael

PS(edit): Others proposed it to: convert the 70-200 2.8 into a 70-200 4.0 IS or non-IS - I have the non-IS, it is lightweight, compact and most importantly makes great photos and combine it with the 40/2.8 which has great image quality but transforms my 40D into a fat but compact camera!
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2013, 01:39:15 PM »
Just try a different approach to your photography and see what happens.

The op has stated this different approach: Carry less weight & size and have more fun, it seems to me that would also exclude juggling multiple primes even if that'd cut some weight, too.

Selling the gear of course comes at a loss of functionality and money, but if the result is more fun with photography it should be worth it - the op should have bought mid-range gear in the first place, see how his usage patterns and skills develop and then step up instead of being talked into buying "the best" (= most expensive & heavy) pro-oriented gear right away.

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and...

1. what do I shoot?
2. what's the minimum gear I need for that?
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3. if I'm awesome at it and my skill hits the ceiling I UPgrade...

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2013, 01:48:49 PM »
The weight is a huge factor. I have tried many straps to help me carry the 5D3 around. I finally got around to buying the BlackRapid Curve. AND WOW! what a difference.

The 5D3 plus 70-200 2.8 II was finally easy to carry. Plus it hangs around hip level, so it becomes discreet. When it's around my neck everyone comments about the size of the lens. But around the hip, no one noticed.

I recommend you try the BlackRapid Curve with a small lens. Go 'classic', ie photograph with a normal prime. The normal prime will force you to be more creative and think it terms of framing to get the shot.

Then decide whether to jump ship.
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2013, 01:51:23 PM »
I sold my 24-70 for a 24-105 and I use it a TON more. No More Bricks

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2013, 02:21:59 PM »
Just try a different approach to your photography and see what happens.

The op has stated this different approach: Carry less weight & size and have more fun, it seems to me that would also exclude juggling multiple primes even if that'd cut some weight, too.

Selling the gear of course comes at a loss of functionality and money, but if the result is more fun with photography it should be worth it - the op should have bought mid-range gear in the first place, see how his usage patterns and skills develop and then step up instead of being talked into buying "the best" (= most expensive & heavy) pro-oriented gear right away.

Just to clarify

I had a t2i then 60d then 5d3 24-105 combo then same body and 2 2.8 zooms.

I simply love the camera just maybe since its winter I just don't find myself using it as much maybe I will strap a 35mm prime and see how the weight fairs out then also I think I will see what gets annnounced this month. It is not like I cannot use the features I love the 2.8 dof isolation my zooms bring. Especially when your grabbing your kids in a crowd or low light.
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2013, 02:30:48 PM »
The problem with selling current gear always, is that you will have a net loss in money because you won't ever sell it all back at or more than what you purchased.  You probably could, but with what you have, it's not likely. 

You already bought the stuff.  Whether you need it or not, it's not entirely relavent, because you already have it.  The gear is great so my personal opinion is that you should just keep it and use it when you can.  If you sell and purchase other gear, you can only lose money from where you are now. 
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2013, 02:52:01 PM »
Just to clarify

I had a t2i then 60d then 5d3 24-105 combo then same body and 2 2.8 zooms.

I simply love the camera just maybe since its winter I just don't find myself using it as much maybe I will strap a 35mm prime and see how the weight fairs out then also I think I will see what gets annnounced this month. It is not like I cannot use the features I love the 2.8 dof isolation my zooms bring. Especially when your grabbing your kids in a crowd or low light.

I had a feeling that's what you did.  Since you've had the 24-105 and upgraded to the new 24-70 you must see the night and day difference in IQ.  From your style of shooting, may I recommend the EF85mm.  It's small and light weight, and fantastic for subject isolation.  It's very sharp wide open and the AF is really fast.  That would be a great pair to your 35mm prime.
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2013, 09:53:42 PM »
The mk3 is not the problem, the problem is those heavy 2.8 zooms which the 70-200L weights about 4LBs.

That's one reason I've come to love small, light primes. 24L + 50 1.4 + 135L are fantastic to carry. If you want mobility and lens speed, try some small primes.

Not a solution for everything, unless you carry at least 2 bodies around. Again, not for family photos.
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2013, 09:56:15 PM »
The mk3 is not the problem, the problem is those heavy 2.8 zooms which the 70-200L weights about 4LBs.

That's one reason I've come to love small, light primes. 24L + 50 1.4 + 135L are fantastic to carry. If you want mobility and lens speed, try some small primes.

Not a solution for everything, unless you carry at least 2 bodies around. Again, not for family photos.

I've taken plenty of family photos with just a Minolta maxxum AF and a 50mm 1.8. Just takes a different approach.

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2013, 10:47:15 PM »
Thanks everyone.

I am just going to hold for a month or so and see what happens. I am thinking of getting a sony nex 6 for smaller shots. Eosm is too slow.
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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2013, 10:48:24 PM »
Sell 70-200 2.8 buy any of the following, nex 6/7, Fuji x pro, or micro 4/3. When you feel you need the tele length again go with 70-200 f4 or the IS version. Or maybe just buy a telephoto for one of the systems above.

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Re: Thinking of downgrading my 5d3 system
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2013, 10:48:24 PM »