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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2013, 06:13:36 PM »
>...and you should learn tact.

I learned, did you?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedem_das_Seine

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #135 on: July 28, 2013, 06:13:36 PM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #136 on: July 29, 2013, 01:32:34 PM »
>...and you should learn tact.

I learned, did you?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedem_das_Seine

Now you again.
Okay, point taken, I wasn't aware of that usage of the phrase.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #137 on: December 26, 2013, 04:07:12 PM »
To put a more positive spin on this review - and justify my re-purchase of this lens, I wanted to post the link below that demonstrates the advantages of the 50 f/1.2L that don't necessarily show up in test charts:
http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/50mm/test_us.htm
To my eyes, the 1.2 has superior contrast at all apertures.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #138 on: December 27, 2013, 07:46:52 AM »
To put a more positive spin on this review - and justify my re-purchase of this lens, I wanted to post the link below that demonstrates the advantages of the 50 f/1.2L that don't necessarily show up in test charts:
http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/50mm/test_us.htm
To my eyes, the 1.2 has superior contrast at all apertures.


It's a curious lens...you have re-bought one and I'm about to sell mine...lol.
It kind of reminds me how many times i've bought and sold and re-bought fisheye lenses....

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #139 on: December 27, 2013, 07:53:47 AM »
To put a more positive spin on this review - and justify my re-purchase of this lens, I wanted to post the link below that demonstrates the advantages of the 50 f/1.2L that don't necessarily show up in test charts:
http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/50mm/test_us.htm
To my eyes, the 1.2 has superior contrast at all apertures.


It's a curious lens...you have re-bought one and I'm about to sell mine...lol.
It kind of reminds me how many times i've bought and sold and re-bought fisheye lenses....

LOL - yes, it was the one lens I regretted selling.  I began to realize that even if I don't shoot events much anymore, there are still plenty of times when f/2.8 just doesn't cut it for me in terms of letting in enough light or giving me shallow enough DOF.  I also think it's about the perfect travel lens - well maybe it and my 24 f/1.4 II.  They're both small and allow me to shoot anywhere with natural light.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #140 on: January 01, 2014, 08:47:28 AM »
This is a great lens and easily as sharp and well behaved as the 35L and 85LII, both of which I have.

I always get tack sharp results with this lens - the reason I think is because I am a pixel peeper and I blame my gear rather than my technique. Consequently I have this lens perfectly calibrated, and know its strengths and weaknesses.

This lens has 1 major flaw - which is that it is extremely soft <2m away or so. I think that's why it scores so badly in some tests than others.

I am an extreme pixel peeper, but honestly, a competently captured photograph using the 24II,35L,50L or 85LII are all virtually the same sharpness wide open.

Great lens.

I also disagree about f/1.2 being thin DOF - it's not that thin - I take group photos at f/1.2 as per below:

Examples all wide open at f/1.2:
1.

2.

3.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2014, 09:20:04 AM »
Wow Clarte, does images are superb.

The first one just breaths seduction.


This is a great lens and easily as sharp and well behaved as the 35L and 85LII, both of which I have.

I always get tack sharp results with this lens - the reason I think is because I am a pixel peeper and I blame my gear rather than my technique. Consequently I have this lens perfectly calibrated, and know its strengths and weaknesses.

This lens has 1 major flaw - which is that it is extremely soft <2m away or so. I think that's why it scores so badly in some tests than others.

I am an extreme pixel peeper, but honestly, a competently captured photograph using the 24II,35L,50L or 85LII are all virtually the same sharpness wide open.

Great lens.

I also disagree about f/1.2 being thin DOF - it's not that thin - I take group photos at f/1.2 as per below:

Examples all wide open at f/1.2:
1.

2.

3.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2014, 09:20:04 AM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #142 on: January 01, 2014, 09:27:39 AM »
Beautiful images clartephoto. I love the first one.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #143 on: January 01, 2014, 11:38:25 AM »
This is a great lens and easily as sharp and well behaved as the 35L and 85LII, both of which I have.

I always get tack sharp results with this lens - the reason I think is because I am a pixel peeper and I blame my gear rather than my technique. Consequently I have this lens perfectly calibrated, and know its strengths and weaknesses.

This lens has 1 major flaw - which is that it is extremely soft <2m away or so. I think that's why it scores so badly in some tests than others.

I am an extreme pixel peeper, but honestly, a competently captured photograph using the 24II,35L,50L or 85LII are all virtually the same sharpness wide open.

Great lens.

I also disagree about f/1.2 being thin DOF - it's not that thin - I take group photos at f/1.2 as per below:

Examples all wide open at f/1.2:
1.

2.

3.


Considering you're a pixel peeper you should give zeiss otus a chance. It will most likely blow every lense you have out of the water...
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #144 on: January 01, 2014, 12:09:35 PM »
Well, Vossie and I have the same point of view, we love the first one ... But I respect your opinion. 

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #145 on: January 01, 2014, 12:17:57 PM »
Beautiful shots! Your editing style is similar to mine - I'm assuming you're cutting off the blackest of blacks with the tone curve to give your images that faded look. I love the look of it and I'm also a bit of a pixel peeper, but that technique does kill some microcontrast in the shadows, so you're losing out a little bit on whatever sharpness is there. I guess it's just a reality we have to live with. Cheers.

This is a great lens and easily as sharp and well behaved as the 35L and 85LII, both of which I have.

I always get tack sharp results with this lens - the reason I think is because I am a pixel peeper and I blame my gear rather than my technique. Consequently I have this lens perfectly calibrated, and know its strengths and weaknesses.

This lens has 1 major flaw - which is that it is extremely soft <2m away or so. I think that's why it scores so badly in some tests than others.

I am an extreme pixel peeper, but honestly, a competently captured photograph using the 24II,35L,50L or 85LII are all virtually the same sharpness wide open.

Great lens.

I also disagree about f/1.2 being thin DOF - it's not that thin - I take group photos at f/1.2 as per below:

Examples all wide open at f/1.2:
1.

2.

3.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #146 on: January 01, 2014, 12:54:06 PM »
I got one of these recently also, new.

As discussed endlessly elsewhere and as I expected, using spyder lenscal I can confirm it does backfocus when you are within ~1.5m of the target and not wide open using center point focus.   Canon could have avoided the whole backfocus controversy by increasing MFD, but it is nice to be able to shoot close & wide open.  If they increased MFD, you would lose that option.  So, I think it is better just to know the lens limitation and shoot accordingly.  Sort of how you wouldn't bring an 85mm f/1.2L to a sporting event due to the slow focusing, if you are going to take close ups with the 50 make sure you are wide open (or sometimes using outside AF point works).

But, otherwise I have really enjoyed this lens.  It has a special look to it, and the 50mm focal length is huge for indoor events in particular, as in my opinion for indoor events 35 a bit too wide, 85 a bit too narrow.

So, while I can see this lens does have a learning curve and is not for someone who just wants to point-and-shoot without worrying, I think it does bring something special to the table.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #147 on: January 02, 2014, 01:09:47 AM »
Thanks for the welcome guys and thanks for the kind words  :)

silvestography: Yeah I desaturate the image slightly, kinda like this:
http://www.meetup.com/Photo-Workshops-Melbourne/pages/Photo_Tip_of_the_Month_%28August_2013%29
I agree there is a loss of microcontrast, though I find that also helps slightly soften any harshness in the lighting on the faces

I do not agree. These images could just as well be taken with any 50mm lens, nothing magic at all with them except the color handling, there are a blue cast in the  group image which  can be seen in the costume and hair.
Sorry, not impressed at all


Hi Kalle, any colour casts are entirely my fault, not the fault of the lens - the colour is mostly affected by WB choices in Post Production - not the lens.

RE: lack of magic, unfortunately I'm not good enough with Photoshop to produce any "magical" images - my compositing skills are quite limited, all my images are edited for colour and gentle retouch only.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #147 on: January 02, 2014, 01:09:47 AM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #148 on: January 02, 2014, 09:23:40 AM »
clartephoto, those are  great shots, and beware the trolls :)  If all of our photos looked the same, it would be pretty boring.

After shooting with my new 50, I am so glad to have the lens again!  I knew it was a mistake to sell it, and I'm so happy to have it back in my stable.
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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« Reply #149 on: January 02, 2014, 10:43:46 AM »
Beautiful images clartephoto. I love the first one.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
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