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Re: Canon EOS-b Images Leak & a New Kit Lens
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2013, 02:30:12 PM »
I have the older XS...how does this compare?  Based on what I know of the T4i it looks to still be smaller than the XS.  That would be awesome for my astrophotography set up.  In a year or two when someone offers the Baader filter mod and I can get a body only of the EOS-b, I will probably be in and very excited.

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« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2013, 02:30:12 PM »

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« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2013, 02:34:04 PM »
For me the idea of a small and lightweight DSLR seems quite attractive. I have used and worked with Sonys NEX-5 and have to say that I really prefer to look through the lens and not on a screen to compose pictures. That is why I am not really interested in the Canon EOS M either.

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« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2013, 02:34:33 PM »
If by some miracle it does turn out to be a new sensor, I would consider one as a backup camera for travel; mainly because of the small size.  Let's face it, it is almost like having an oversized lens cap stuck on something like the 70-2002.8 II L lens!  If it is not a lower noise sensor, forget it.  I shoot mostly full frame and have a 7D collecting dust in a bag somewhere.  It is a good camera from a functionality point of view but the 18MP sensor has more noise than I will tolerate...

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Re: Canon EOS-b Images Leak & a New Kit Lens
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2013, 02:42:12 PM »
You guys could be right that it's the same old sensor. On the other hand, being 18MP doesn't mean it has to be the same old one. Maybe 18MP is a sweet spot for APS-C. Maybe higher pixel count is reserved for more advanced cameras.

Anyhow, I'm still hopeful for another body as it's pretty uncommon for Canon to send out invitation for lower-end bodies.

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« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2013, 03:00:22 PM »
this definitely means that the APSC sensor in the 7DII has to be improved or who would buy the same sensor since the 550d/7d when the 7D is almost a perfect camera and i think this is why they are taking there time. Or are they just going add a few more MP and say that makes it better.
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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2013, 03:03:51 PM »
i don't expect this to feature a new sensor. Especially when they're going to release the 7/70D.

They'd anyway release that 7d or 70d with new sensor.

And, a tiny entry level camera getting this sensor also somewhat confirms that the high end one's are going to get a new sensor.

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:54 PM »
I'm in the camp of those who don't agree with the ones complaining for this little baby. I mean, it has always been like that with Canon. Since this camera is probably intended as the new entry level DSLR, it is reasonable it's being equipped with the old 18 MP sensor. Think about this fact: the 1000D/XS (June 2008) had the 10.1 MP sensor previously adopted by the 400D/XTi (Sept 2006) and 40D (Sept 2007); the 1100D/T3 (Mar 2011) had the 12.2 MP sensor previously implemented in the 450D/XSi (Mar 2008), though higher density sensors had appeared meanwhile. In other words, as far as APS-C is concerned, this may denote the 18 MP sensor has reached the end of its life cycle. We may interpret this as a means for Canon to get rid of components they have in stock which didn't receive the marketing success they expected, as it seems it has happened with the EOS M, at least in the western market.
This may possibly imply we are going to have a nice surprise by Canon for the next crop DSLRs to come. We should be extremely happy about this announcement, even though not interested in buying such a thing, don't you feel the same?
Have a look at a couple of old posts by myself, I was suggesting exactly this kind of strategy by Canon:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=12606.msg225245#msg225245

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13266.msg238582#msg238582

BTW, I'm expecting to see this little baby marketed in a variety of colors...
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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:54 PM »

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« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2013, 03:07:08 PM »
"EOS-b"????

What customer is going to buy a "b" camera?
i.e. how many will ask "So where is the EOS-a?" and want to buy that?

Did you just come up with so you had something to complain about? How, exactly, is this a problem in any way, shape, or form in the "real world"?

Seriously ppl! Complaining about the letter B?!?!?!
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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2013, 03:18:41 PM »
I'm in the camp of those who don't agree with the ones complaining for this little baby. I mean, it has always been like that with Canon. Since this camera is probably intended as the new entry level DSLR, it is reasonable it's being equipped with the old 18 MP sensor. Think about this fact: the 1000D/XS (June 2008) had the 10.1 MP sensor previously adopted by the 400D/XTi (Sept 2006) and 40D (Sept 2007); the 1100D/T3 (Mar 2011) had the 12.2 MP sensor previously implemented in the 450D/XSi (Mar 2008), though higher density sensors had appeared meanwhile. In other words, as far as APS-C is concerned, this may denote the 18 MP sensor has reached the end of its life cycle. We may interpret this as a means for Canon to get rid of components they have in stock which didn't receive the marketing success they expected, as it seems it has happened with the EOS M, at least in the western market.
This may possibly imply we are going to have a nice surprise by Canon for the next crop DSLRs to come. We should be extremely happy about this announcement, even though not interested in buying such a thing, don't you feel the same?
Have a look at a couple of old posts by myself, I was suggesting exactly this kind of strategy by Canon:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=12606.msg225245#msg225245

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13266.msg238582#msg238582

BTW, I'm expecting to see this little baby marketed in a variety of colors...
Cheers!


It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level? O.o




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Re: Canon EOS-b Images Leak & a New Kit Lens
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2013, 04:12:54 PM »

It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level? O.o

Sometimes it's more expensive to make something smaller. And just because it's smaller doesn't mean it has to be a lower level.

The question is will the build quality be good enough to satisfy people used to XXD or XD bodies. I've read that the EOS-M build quality is good and I hope this follows suit.

And if a body only version is available for $699 that's reasonable. I have no desire for any EF-S kit lens.
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« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2013, 04:31:25 PM »
I'd laugh SO hard if it was an 18mpx sensor that kicked ass, because they updated it but not the pixel count

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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2013, 04:36:00 PM »
It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level? O.o

It'll start out at $800 but will drop over time, as other Canon cameras do.
Also I don't get all the hate for the sensor, having just got a 650D (stop gap before going FF) it holds up quite well with my 50D sensor, and that's using L lenses.

If Canon listened to people on the internet, they'd never release a camera as they'd never be able to meet peoples unrealistic expectations. I probably won't be buying this camera myself, but I can see it's appeal and the reasons for Canon producing it.

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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2013, 04:44:28 PM »
It all makes perfect sense except that the price tag is supposed to be 800$. Is that the entry-level? O.o

It'll start out at $800 but will drop over time, as other Canon cameras do.
Also I don't get all the hate for the sensor, having just got a 650D (stop gap before going FF) it holds up quite well with my 50D sensor, and that's using L lenses.

If Canon listened to people on the internet, they'd never release a camera as they'd never be able to meet peoples unrealistic expectations. I probably won't be buying this camera myself, but I can see it's appeal and the reasons for Canon producing it.

Yes, electronic stuff tends to cost less and less as time goes by and it becomes outdated. That's a general situation, not a peculiarity of canon cameras. I still think the price is very steep for the sort of camera.

And... Eeerrrr.... Are you impressed because the sensor in your 650D holds up well with its previous generation? Is that something to rave about....?

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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2013, 04:44:28 PM »

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« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2013, 04:45:56 PM »
And... Eeerrrr.... Are you impressed because the sensor in your 650D holds up well with its previous generation? Is that something to rave about....?

if your a canon user.... yes.
6D, 5D MK2, 7D, 550D... a lot of Glass.

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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2013, 05:15:21 PM »
I'd laugh SO hard if it was an 18mpx sensor that kicked ass, because they updated it but not the pixel count
Likewise.... ISO has bumped up and it probably has on-sensor AF to help in live-view and movie modes.
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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2013, 05:15:21 PM »