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Is there any chance this is legit?
« on: April 09, 2013, 11:36:02 AM »
I've been keeping my eye on Craigslist for a couple of lenses I'm looking for, a 24-105mm and a 500mm prime for birding.

This ad popped up this weekend and all I can think is it must be stolen. If I had enough saved I would think about getting it, but are there ever deals this good that are legit?

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3726384253.html

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Is there any chance this is legit?
« on: April 09, 2013, 11:36:02 AM »

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 11:56:08 AM »
Hey, thanks for the find. I'm in Boston, I'm going to buy this lens. I'm sure it's legit, no chance it's a scam and the reply to my email will mention the seller just left the area, wiring funds, secure eBay escrow, etc.  Perfectly legit.  Deals like this come up all the time.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 12:02:48 PM »
 use a dummy email top see if they will take 1500.   if they say yes,  then it is a scam.  I don't know what the retail price is for the 800  but I'm doing to guess they could get more by trading it in to a photo store.
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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 12:04:16 PM »
Haha, OK, now I don't feel like I'm missing out on some amazing deal!

I figured it was either stolen or they are planning on murdering the person that comes to pick it up :)

Now if only I can find a 500mm L for $1000!

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 12:59:29 PM »
Scam

Quick image search shows these images being used on other auction sites.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 01:19:45 PM »
There is nothing wrong with posting on multiple sites at the same time, right? And the different languages might explain the bad english on Craigs list... ;)
But the guy must have a huge back yard... If I had an 800 mm I would use it indoors only. It would help me see my children better - they always sit half-way down our dining table when we have dinner. And to see my wife I would get a 1200 with tc.

Scam

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 01:32:13 PM »
I don't see what's so unbelievable about a guy buying a $14,000 lens, using it a couple times in his backyard, and then selling it at an 80% loss.  He even notes that "Copy very strong"; he wouldn't know that kind of photo jargon if he wasn't a real photographer.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 01:39:08 PM »
I doubt if anything is stolen but the Image.  Otherwise it doesn't exist.  He doesn't actually need a lens, since its never going to be shipped to you anyway.  Just wire him the money and see!
 
This type of ad is very common, they occasionallly catch those who want to believe so much that they talk themselves into it and send their money to Nigeria.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 01:41:28 PM »
The first thing I paid attention to was that he said he had used this 800mm lens in his backyard  ???

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 02:08:02 PM »
I wanted so badly to believe that this is a sweet old man with too much money and not enough sense and was just looking to give this lens a nice home :)

The broken English and little bits of photo jargon is what drew me in, but alas, I just can't see anyone throwing 10K out the window, even if they were a billionaire.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 02:19:22 PM »
I wanted so badly to believe that this is a sweet old man with too much money and not enough sense and was just looking to give this lens a nice home :)

The broken English and little bits of photo jargon is what drew me in, but alas, I just can't see anyone throwing 10K out the window, even if they were a billionaire.


I recognize that it’s not fair to immediately associate broken English with ill intentions, but unfortunately a large percentage of these scams fit this mould.   Really though, your first clue should be that something that is too good to be true, usually is.  I’m only restating this because I think it’s something that will help you many times throughout your life.  To me, in this day and age of ecommerce, that post should be a glaring fraud warning the first time you read it.  There may be rare occasion of a poorly worded legitimate offer, but I would always proceed expecting the worst and not pull a trigger until overly satisfied with proof to the contrary.  And anything over a few hundred dollars I’d usually be willing to let pass me by because I’m not willing to accept the loss when it turns out to be a scam.

I personally am a skeptic, probably to a fault (as often reminded by my wife the optimist), but I will say that I rarely get ‘taken for a ride’.

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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 02:35:14 PM »
I wanted so badly to believe that this is a sweet old man with too much money and not enough sense and was just looking to give this lens a nice home :)

The broken English and little bits of photo jargon is what drew me in, but alas, I just can't see anyone throwing 10K out the window, even if they were a billionaire.


There are good deals out there, but I seriously doubt this is the one. I once met someone selling a 300mm f4L IS for $800 in like new condition on Craigslist. We met at a public place (her place of business; a bank). I walked through two feet of snow to get there, she felt bad, and sold me the lens for $700. That's a 50% discount! Lens still produces pretty good images:


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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 02:45:21 PM »
I wanted so badly to believe that this is a sweet old man with too much money and not enough sense and was just looking to give this lens a nice home :)

The broken English and little bits of photo jargon is what drew me in, but alas, I just can't see anyone throwing 10K out the window, even if they were a billionaire.
Actually, esp. billionaire. Its safe to say that in general generosity is inversely proportional to wealth. And even generous wealthy exceptions like Warren buffet and Bill gates wont throw it out distributing Canon 800 mm f/5.6's on Craigslist. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 02:49:52 PM »
The thing I found interesting about this add was the line "it's ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests"  In all the craigslist adds I have read this is the first to say it was ok. :)
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Re: Is there any chance this is legit?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 02:57:59 PM »
Has to be fake. No payment info, no SN, horrible engrish, and an outrageous price.  Move on.
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