The mandatory move to CC subscription licensing only affects products in the current "CS6" range. Bundled products without a CS6 badge (including Lightroom and Acrobat, plus all the "Elements" versions) will continue to be available under perpetual licenses as they are now.Who are you? Adobe rep? Is that official info?
All paid CC members will have access to a select set of archived versions of the desktop apps. Starting with CS6, select older versions of the desktop creative apps will be archived and available for download. Archived versions are provided “as is” and are not updated to work with the latest hardware and software platforms.
Yes it's official info - I'm an ACP, we speak to the user community on behalf of Adobe but we're not sales reps.
Please read the CC FAQ at http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.htm (it's being updated with new items regularly, including my two points above).
To touch on pricing, as Tom Hogarty said last week, Adobe are looking at how their product offers can best be tailored to suit photographers. That may mean in future there are 'pick-n-mix' bundles at different price points - but it's very early days. As I'm sure you appreciate, feedback is not something Adobe are short of this week
The position on Lightroom is a little more complex than Photoshop, as Lr is a bundle product (it doesn't sync release dates with CS, this time it's a coincidence). All existing perpetual licenses for Lr4 and earlier will continue to work, perpetual licenses for Lr5 will go on sale when the public beta ends, and Lr5 will be rolled out to existing Creative Cloud and new CC subscribers just as Lr4 was. The only significant difference is that boxed copies are not available - All Adobe software is download-only as of this month, so you buy a serial number (from Adobe's store or through the normal retail networks like Amazon) and download the installer from Adobe's CDN. Of course you can burn it to disc as a backup if you want.
In future there may well be times when new features appear in the CC-bundled version of Lr which aren't yet in the perpetual version, because Cloud subscribers get new features quicker (as SOX doesn't apply).
The questions about Web connectivity seem to have been resolved; to summarize - CC normally pings the activation server once every 30 days. If you don't have connectivity it will run a grace period of another 30 days, then revert to trial mode (which then runs for 30 days) - this gives 99 full days of work before the apps refuse to open. Customers have been asking about how to install CC on firewalled machines or how to work for more than 99 days in remote locations, there will be clarification on that shortly.
Nice of you to clarify, appreciated.
Issue exist within the way in which Adobe have handled this, from small to huge, the support has been virtually non extent here in Singapore, if there was an alternative I'de be knocking on their doors, which I'm sure wouldn't worry Adobe in the least.
I'm in fact one of the few on this Thread that thinks the Creative Cloud/App system works just fine, Apple have it down reasonably pat, Adobe's Creative Cloud attempt to Market has been an unmitigated disaster.
The 30 day re ping thing is total BS in my opinion, Adobe like so many other Companies in the "Digital Age" simply think that everyone on the Planet is connected to the Internet 24/7, that's just not the case, I may not be away from an Internet connection for 90 days, but I certainly have 45 to 60 days at times if I'm travelling in places like Antarctica, The Arctic, Africa, to have a situation where you need to be pinged every 30 days is nonsense, I have to assume this is based on the Monthly Billing, which I also think is ludicrous, there seems no option for an annual payment system unless you go to the "Business" oriented packages.
Adobe will loose custom, there isn't any doubt in my view, they may not loose the serious Amateurs or the Business involvement, but I cant see the individuals that take up CS4 for instance, then sit on the package for 4 years relying on updates to the CS4 package, liking this "annualised" hit to the pocket.
And has been said, it may be that the "system" Adobe has taken on will over time become more user friendly, but the support side is a total crock of you know what, if you want support in Asia, you get a Phone Number that's answered in Mumbai by people that hardly know what day of the week it is, numerous calls to these Guys has just ensured that my personal view of Adobe support goes from Ho Hum to downright hopeless.
But I'm sure Adobe will continue to prosper because again as has been said, at the moment, really what else is out there does what CS6 Suite does, Aperture ?? Not even close, and most of the other suggestions on this thread don't either.
I could live with the whole deal if Adobe would just get their support side to lift their heads out of their collective dark place.