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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2013, 01:44:07 AM »
I'm really surprised by the 4 to 1 out selling of the 70-300.  The 70-300 is vastly superior to the 100-400 from 70-300mm.  While no, it's not a great birding lens, it's extra 2 stops of IS and extra IQ are above and beyond the 100-400.  As far as the method by which it zooms, is a complete non-issue.


I am surprised too.
The 300mm on crop 1.6 (for example 7D) is still 480mm. That is more than 300 or 400mm on FF.
Of course light conditions must be good - so there is a little limitation
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2013, 01:44:07 AM »

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2013, 02:39:28 AM »
I'm really surprised by the 4 to 1 out selling of the 70-300.  The 70-300 is vastly superior to the 100-400 from 70-300mm.  While no, it's not a great birding lens, it's extra 2 stops of IS and extra IQ are above and beyond the 100-400.  As far as the method by which it zooms, is a complete non-issue.


I am surprised too.
The 300mm on crop 1.6 (for example 7D) is still 480mm. That is more than 300 or 400mm on FF.
Of course light conditions must be good - so there is a little limitation

I'm not so surprised considering most people probably use the 100-400 on a crop, that gives you 640 mm equivalent :) Add to this the fact the 100-400 is still the best way to get to 400 mm with IS on a budget, and that it 'collapses' to a very reasonable size as mentioned earlier, still make this lens a winner.
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2013, 08:22:13 AM »
<p>The new 100-400 does indeed exist and is being actively tested, however Canon is in no rush to announce the lens. We’re told that the current 100-400 still sells at an amazing clip and outpaces the 70-300L by a 4 to 1 margin.</p>

This is an astounding number if true.

Good Lord, people. If you want lower prices and/or better lenses, quit buying these lenses to simply keep up with the Joneses. And, quit listening to fanbois.
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2013, 10:14:02 AM »
<p>The new 100-400 does indeed exist and is being actively tested, however Canon is in no rush to announce the lens. We’re told that the current 100-400 still sells at an amazing clip and outpaces the 70-300L by a 4 to 1 margin.</p>

This is an astounding number if true.

Good Lord, people. If you want lower prices and/or better lenses, quit buying these lenses to simply keep up with the Joneses. And, quit listening to fanbois.

By all means...don't buy a great zoom lens which offers 400mm with IS, delivers excellent IQ, and costs only $1500.  That will force Canon to release a better version costing at least $1000 more (and incidentally driving up the cost of the current version by a few hundred dollars). 
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2013, 07:12:39 PM »
<p>The new 100-400 does indeed exist and is being actively tested, however Canon is in no rush to announce the lens. We’re told that the current 100-400 still sells at an amazing clip and outpaces the 70-300L by a 4 to 1 margin.</p>

This is an astounding number if true.

Good Lord, people. If you want lower prices and/or better lenses, quit buying these lenses to simply keep up with the Joneses. And, quit listening to fanbois.

By all means...don't buy a great zoom lens which offers 400mm with IS, delivers excellent IQ, and costs only $1500.  That will force Canon to release a better version costing at least $1000 more (and incidentally driving up the cost of the current version by a few hundred dollars).

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2013, 12:57:27 AM »
I'm really surprised by the 4 to 1 out selling of the 70-300.  The 70-300 is vastly superior to the 100-400 from 70-300mm.  While no, it's not a great birding lens, it's extra 2 stops of IS and extra IQ are above and beyond the 100-400.  As far as the method by which it zooms, is a complete non-issue.


I am surprised too.
The 300mm on crop 1.6 (for example 7D) is still 480mm. That is more than 300 or 400mm on FF.
Of course light conditions must be good - so there is a little limitation

I'm not so surprised considering most people probably use the 100-400 on a crop, that gives you 640 mm equivalent :) Add to this the fact the 100-400 is still the best way to get to 400 mm with IS on a budget, and that it 'collapses' to a very reasonable size as mentioned earlier, still make this lens a winner.
If the IS was equal, and the IQ was equal, I'd agree.  But the IS is 2 stops better, which I personally find incredibly important on something as long as 300-400mm.  Yes, it's 400mm, but it's not that much longer than 300mm, and it is considerbly larger and heavier than the 70-300.

Then again, the vast majority of people buying camera gear are quite ignorant of what they're buying, so perhaps it shouldn't surprise me that much that people buy the longest thing they could afford.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2013, 01:12:22 AM »
i'm waiting for the river of tears that comes with this lens being made of engineering plastic and not metal
if that flood co-incides with the even bigger flood that comes when the 7Dmk2 does not deliver better image quality than a 1Dx everyone had better have their arks all built and weather tested :P :D
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2013, 04:49:15 PM »
wasn't this supposed to be out last year?  the year before?  the year before?  the year before?  the year before?

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2013, 05:31:42 PM »
So they will have a $12,000, 200-400 f/4 (280-560 f/5.6) lens and a ~$1,000-$2,000, 100-400 f/4-f/5.6 lens?  It might take a few seconds longer to add the 1.4x, but it would then be a 140-560mm f/5.6-f/8...

I didn't win the lottery last week, so I know which one I would go for (the 300mm f/4 IS ;) ).
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2013, 06:35:56 PM »
So they will have a $12,000, 200-400 f/4 (280-560 f/5.6) lens and a ~$1,000-$2,000, 100-400 f/4-f/5.6 lens?  It might take a few seconds longer to add the 1.4x, but it would then be a 140-560mm f/5.6-f/8...

I didn't win the lottery last week, so I know which one I would go for (the 300mm f/4 IS ;) ).

+1 on that!  The 100-400 will not step on the 200-400's toes, which probably means it won't raise any eyebrows with respect to its optical performance with a TC attached.  I doubt Canon will stray too far from its  original market (It will still be king of the airshow,  for example) which is to use it naked.  that said, I'd like to see optical performance on par with the 70-200 f/2.8 II, though,  and maintain good IQ with a 1.4x attached, but I'm afraid the cost would be enough make the 300 f/2.8 attractive.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2013, 12:33:22 PM »
wasn't this supposed to be out last year?  the year before?  the year before?  the year before?  the year before?

lol
Nooooo, it is supposed to come the next year, or the year after it, or 2 years after the next year, or ...   ;D

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2013, 06:49:57 PM »
Evidently, no one but me saw today's press release.  I wonder how CRguy and everyone else missed it?

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Canon U.S.A. Announces The Availability Of The Versatile EF 100-400mm F/4-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens

MELVILLE, N.Y., May 22, 2013 – Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today announced a dynamic new telephoto zoom lens, the EF 100-400mm f/4-5.6L IS USM. Designed for use with all Canon EOS Digital SLR cameras, the new L-series lens has high-performance Image Stabilization technology, offering exceptional shooting flexibility and range, ideal for sports or wildlife photography.

To help deliver beautiful, soft, image backgrounds, the lens features a 9-blade circular aperture. The lens also utilizes inner focusing, ring USM, a high-speed CPU and optimized AF algorithms for fast and accurate autofocusing.

Using advanced optical materials such as fluorite crystal and UD glass, the new lens provides excellent correction of chromatic aberration throughout the entire zoom range, and delivers high-quality images with high levels of resolution, color fidelity and contrast. The new lens also includes dust- and water-resistant construction designed for extended usage under harsh conditions.

The EF 100-400mm f/4-5.6L IS USM zoom lens is expected to be available on the 6th Tuesday of November or when pigs fly over snowbanks in hell, whichever comes first, for an estimated retail price of $2,799.00.

For more information about Canon's new EF 100-400mm f/4L IS USM lens, and a full list of product specifications, hold your breath until you turn blue then visit www.usa.canon.com.

About Canon U.S.A., Inc.
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 07:34:59 PM »
lol the flying pigs was a nice touch :-) .  you're probably right about the price, although I'm expecting more like $2999...

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 08:35:30 PM »
lol the flying pigs was a nice touch :-) .  you're probably right about the price, although I'm expecting more like $2999...

LOL i thought it was real until i got to that bit too! ;D
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 10:33:22 PM »
I'm really surprised by the 4 to 1 out selling of the 70-300.  The 70-300 is vastly superior to the 100-400 from 70-300mm.  While no, it's not a great birding lens, it's extra 2 stops of IS and extra IQ are above and beyond the 100-400.  As far as the method by which it zooms, is a complete non-issue.


I am surprised too.
The 300mm on crop 1.6 (for example 7D) is still 480mm. That is more than 300 or 400mm on FF.
Of course light conditions must be good - so there is a little limitation

I'm not so surprised considering most people probably use the 100-400 on a crop, that gives you 640 mm equivalent :) Add to this the fact the 100-400 is still the best way to get to 400 mm with IS on a budget, and that it 'collapses' to a very reasonable size as mentioned earlier, still make this lens a winner.
If the IS was equal, and the IQ was equal, I'd agree.  But the IS is 2 stops better, which I personally find incredibly important on something as long as 300-400mm.  Yes, it's 400mm, but it's not that much longer than 300mm, and it is considerbly larger and heavier than the 70-300.

Then again, the vast majority of people buying camera gear are quite ignorant of what they're buying, so perhaps it shouldn't surprise me that much that people buy the longest thing they could afford.

Not surprised - the 100-400 is the must have lens for many amateurs.  Even though 70-300 has better IQ and is significantly, the extra 100mm is all that matters

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 10:33:22 PM »