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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2013, 12:57:49 AM »
360 degree mode dial. That'll please some people  ;)
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2013, 12:58:37 AM »
I think this spells the end of 7D sales, and the resale value of the 7D should also take a big hit.

The only thing the 70D gives up to the 7D is  1 fps (8 fps vs 7fps).  But the 70D provides so much more in every other aspect. 

If the image quality and high ISO performance is good. (which is the 7D's biggest weakness, so it isn't hard to beat it), it is game over for the 7d.

I always viewed the 7D as the upgrade to the 50D.  (the 60D was an anomaly in the XXD line).  The 70D appears to be the upgrade to the 7D.  Maybe there won't be a 7DII?  If there is, it is going to have to be an impressive camera.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2013, 12:59:02 AM »
The new AF system in live mode sounds very promising. Can't wait to see it in action.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2013, 01:03:02 AM »
I have inferred from the specs on this page that the 70D just has one custom user setting/mode:

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_70d#Specifications

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(1) Program AE (shiftable)
(2) Shutter-priority AE
(3) Aperture-priority AE
(4) Manual exposure
(5) Bulb
(6) Custom shooting mode

"mode" singular. 

Dang.  Am I the only one here who uses these modes...and who actually wants at least three?  My 40D has three, but it seems like Canon decided some time ago that this is yet another way that they are going to differentiate between their pro and their prosumer DSLRs -- by dropping a setting that costs almost nothing to add, has fit on bodies with program modes for years, has value to many (I am assuming), and can be ignored by others.

Do I have to pay 2 grand or more to get a Canon body that has more than one custom user setting?  Grrrrr.

When I see stuff like this, what comes to mind is something that I read in a 6D review somewhere, which was generally along the lines of Nikon seemed to stuff as many D800 features as possible in the D600, while Canon seems to leave things out just for product differentiation.  Of course, I have way too much Canon glass to start threatening to walk, but I reserve the right to complain.  ;)

Here's hoping that this thing is a low-light monster...because my 40D is long overdue for the pasture.  :)


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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2013, 01:03:29 AM »
Vari-angle and Touch Screen and in-camera HDR ... three features that I really like in a crop sensor body ... AWESOME!
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2013, 01:19:27 AM »
On Paper it looks very pleasing and I am sure there will be more 'Happy' posts here than the launch of 6D.
I am not a heavy user of flash but one thing which I saw in most of the 6D bashing posts was, sync speed. This new guy has 1/250 against 1/180 of 6D and max shutter speed is 1/8000, I wonder why these couldn't be added to 6D.
I wish 6D had all of this (with fixed LCD) and it would become the best budget FF camera (and not "arguably" the best). I am happy that I didn't go for 6D last month and as I don't need to replace my aging 40D in a hurry, I can still wait for 7DMk2  8)

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2013, 01:20:08 AM »
Imaging-resource says that the Canon claim is RAW ISO performance on a  par with the 60D, despite packing 20 MP instead of 18.   But JPEG shooters will see dramatically improved image quality thanks to Digic 5+.

That's probably gonna prove out in production testing, too, is my guess.   Still early, though.   

Video advance spectacular, still performance: not so much.    We'll see.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2013, 01:45:49 AM »
It actually has 40.3 Million photodiodes to form that 20.2MP sensor.

R0x0rs: Dual-Pixel CMOS AF works for 80% of the sensor area up to f/11 & EV 0, AFMA, +/-5EV EC, ±3 AEB (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps), stereo microphone onboard, EOS-1N level of weathersealing, Timelapse recording   (by USB cable and PC), 1/250 X-sync, fully articulated touchscreen LCD, dedicated focus area expansion button (although not programmable like the M.Fn button), wireless flash commander, fully-featured WiFi control implementation

Sux0rs: only 1 SD slot, only 98% 0.95x mag VF, only single-axis electronic level, no PC sync terminal, Rebel-class E3-type instead of N3-type remote terminal, no headphone jack, odd DOF preview button placement, JPEG-only HDR & Multi-Exposure, only 1 Custom dial setting, no AF point selection joystick


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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2013, 01:51:07 AM »
Impressive specs list at a fair price $1190... Finally Canon realize they have a strong competitor ( Nikon) and starting to give more technology at fair prices.

Definitely is room for 7Dmk2.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2013, 01:59:56 AM »
JPEG-only HDR & Multi-Exposure

hopefully we get ML for it by the end of the year to tackle this and the lack of intervalometer
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2013, 02:00:21 AM »
Sample images for the 70D from the Canon Australia website

http://canon.com.au/About-Canon/News-Events/News-Press-Releases/IMR-EOS-70D

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2013, 02:06:29 AM »
great ,  this sensor based AF is the future because this really helps getting rid of the annoying mirror, the slapping mirror is not really needed for digital sensored cameras.

fast LV AF is very important , if you shoot events with DSLR over crowds, you know it, the fast sensor based phase detection AF combined with swiveling screen is really interesting.

but too bad it does not have 60p, I probably get this one for testing soon any way, though.
I love the small body  of this camera and I actually like the look of it too.
But I hope next 5D gets this sensor based AF tech and swiveling screen +4k raw video, and hopefully usable ISO6400(I do not consider ISO6400 of any current camera usable at all).

any way, it is a great move and I much prefer this over any APS-C camera out there.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2013, 02:27:43 AM »
360 degree mode dial. That'll please some people  ;)
Not me though. I like the stop in the dial in the 7D, as it makes it easier to use it blind (with eye in the viewfinder), mainly switching between the three custom modes. In particular moving to C3 is very easy, just move it as far as it goes.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2013, 02:31:36 AM »
Strobists will be happy if the spec list at B&H is correct.

Max sync = 250th of a second.

And another first....

It has a focus assist (AF) beam.

2, until now, Nikon only perks.

Not sure where you're getting your information from.

X-sync on the 7D, 60D, 50D, and several others are 1/250th.  That's nothing new, and certainly nothing that was ever a Nikon only perk.

AF Beam?  Do you mean the integrated speedlight controller?  Also on both the 7D and 60D.  And I don't believe Nikon has that feature (but may be mistaken). If you did mean AF assist beam, they both had that too, as do (I think, maybe Rebels lack it?) all other models with a built in flash.  So it's hardly a novel feature.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2013, 02:36:18 AM »
I think this spells the end of 7D sales, and the resale value of the 7D should also take a big hit.

The only thing the 70D gives up to the 7D is  1 fps (8 fps vs 7fps).

Burst length is also shorter (presumably mainly due to bigger file sizes).

It also loses pretty big in ergonomics: only one custom mode, much less customizable buttons, no joystick. Having used 7D and 60D side by side I find the latter much clumsier and slower to use.

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If the image quality and high ISO performance is good. (which is the 7D's biggest weakness, so it isn't hard to beat it), it is game over for the 7d.
Could be. But it is missing enough of the high-end features (customizability, weather sealing) of the 7D it clearly leaves room for a 7D2.

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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2013, 02:36:18 AM »