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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2013, 10:01:10 PM »
Signed in just to comment about the iPads :)

Watched a lady with her brand new iPad with the built in case taking a picture of a birthday cake.  She was holding primarily by the case, case released, iPad fell in cake.

I'm glad people photograph with iPad's.  It's very entertaining to watch!

Last time I was in Varanasi I saw this on my way back to base, it cracked me up so I had to take it.
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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #61 on: September 13, 2013, 03:13:06 AM »
Signed in just to comment about the iPads :)

Watched a lady with her brand new iPad with the built in case taking a picture of a birthday cake.  She was holding primarily by the case, case released, iPad fell in cake.

I'm glad people photograph with iPad's.  It's very entertaining to watch!

Last time I was in Varanasi I saw this on my way back to base, it cracked me up so I had to take it.

Those monks (I assume) are amazingly modern. Looks like one of them had you in the picture too!
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« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2013, 02:56:45 PM »
Signed in just to comment about the iPads :)

Watched a lady with her brand new iPad with the built in case taking a picture of a birthday cake.  She was holding primarily by the case, case released, iPad fell in cake.

I'm glad people photograph with iPad's.  It's very entertaining to watch!

I totally agree. Ridiculousness. :D it's funny until a friend or family member does it right next to me with me holding my dslr.. Now that's sad.
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« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2013, 11:25:01 PM »
Signed in just to comment about the iPads :)

Watched a lady with her brand new iPad with the built in case taking a picture of a birthday cake.  She was holding primarily by the case, case released, iPad fell in cake.

I'm glad people photograph with iPad's.  It's very entertaining to watch!

Last time I was in Varanasi I saw this on my way back to base, it cracked me up so I had to take it.

Those monks (I assume) are amazingly modern. Looks like one of them had you in the picture too!

Good eye! I might have missed that!
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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2013, 12:32:42 AM »
I can tell the monk was holding a D700 with 70-300 Nikkor

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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2013, 04:29:04 AM »
I can tell the monk was holding a D700 with 70-300 Nikkor

Then you must be that monk!  ;D Show us the picture you took  :D
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« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2013, 09:00:38 PM »
Signed in just to comment about the iPads :)

Watched a lady with her brand new iPad with the built in case taking a picture of a birthday cake.  She was holding primarily by the case, case released, iPad fell in cake.

I'm glad people photograph with iPad's.  It's very entertaining to watch!

Last time I was in Varanasi I saw this on my way back to base, it cracked me up so I had to take it.
and all the other monks were praying the picture would be ok.....
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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
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« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2013, 11:38:53 PM »
While I agree that glass can take you farher than camera body, I DO agree that an upgrade from one brand of camera body (I.E. T1i to T2i) is usually not worth the $$$ spent, unless the upgrade fits what you need to get the photos you are after.

I have a friend who says this about buying camera equipment. "Buy what you need, stay within what you CAN afford, and LEARN your equipment well."

I love the last part because a guy with a rebel who KNOWS his camera inside and out can "out shoot" a guy who owns a 1DX and doesn't know how to operate it properly. An upgrade simply to upgrade, because someone want the "newest and greatest" will often be quickly dissapointed with the purchase, simply because he/she never took the time to LEARN his first camera to begin with.

3 years ago I upgraded from my XTi to the 40D for a couple of simple reasons. 1) I shoot mainly wildlife and the 3fps of the rebel missed a lot of shots and the 40D's 6.5fps were perfect 2) I was happy with the 10.1MP sensor because more megapixels do not automatically mean a better photo, and 3) I have large hands and the 40D fits better in my hands than the rebels do. It was not worth it for me to shell out the $1600 for the 7D because it was way outside of my budget.

But at the time, the 40D's were in the price range (used) of about 500-700 bucks and the 50D's were commanding upwards of 800-1000 used (as they were still new at the time). The 40D is a very overlooked camera because of it's short life span (Canon released the 50D within a year of the 40D's release). Many people assumed that the 50D was a better camera so the market got flooded with tons of very lightly used 40D's. I got mine at the time for $500.00 bucks and I loved it.

The 40D for me as the perfect upgrade. In fact I still keep a 40D as a backup/macro camera to my 7D and shoot with it on a regular basis. The only reason why I bought the 7D wasn't because I wanted an upgrade, but my 40D was ripped off and my ins company paid for a replacement. I paid the difference and bought the 7D. I love my 7D but I also love my 40D, it fits my needs and it's a very easy camera to use and consistantly produces outstanding photos.

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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2013, 07:18:19 AM »
While I agree that glass can take you farher than camera body, I DO agree that an upgrade from one brand of camera body (I.E. T1i to T2i) is usually not worth the $$$ spent, unless the upgrade fits what you need to get the photos you are after.

I have a friend who says this about buying camera equipment. "Buy what you need, stay within what you CAN afford, and LEARN your equipment well."

I love the last part because a guy with a rebel who KNOWS his camera inside and out can "out shoot" a guy who owns a 1DX and doesn't know how to operate it properly. An upgrade simply to upgrade, because someone want the "newest and greatest" will often be quickly dissapointed with the purchase, simply because he/she never took the time to LEARN his first camera to begin with.

3 years ago I upgraded from my XTi to the 40D for a couple of simple reasons. 1) I shoot mainly wildlife and the 3fps of the rebel missed a lot of shots and the 40D's 6.5fps were perfect 2) I was happy with the 10.1MP sensor because more megapixels do not automatically mean a better photo, and 3) I have large hands and the 40D fits better in my hands than the rebels do. It was not worth it for me to shell out the $1600 for the 7D because it was way outside of my budget.

But at the time, the 40D's were in the price range (used) of about 500-700 bucks and the 50D's were commanding upwards of 800-1000 used (as they were still new at the time). The 40D is a very overlooked camera because of it's short life span (Canon released the 50D within a year of the 40D's release). Many people assumed that the 50D was a better camera so the market got flooded with tons of very lightly used 40D's. I got mine at the time for $500.00 bucks and I loved it.

The 40D for me as the perfect upgrade. In fact I still keep a 40D as a backup/macro camera to my 7D and shoot with it on a regular basis. The only reason why I bought the 7D wasn't because I wanted an upgrade, but my 40D was ripped off and my ins company paid for a replacement. I paid the difference and bought the 7D. I love my 7D but I also love my 40D, it fits my needs and it's a very easy camera to use and consistantly produces outstanding photos.

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I loved my 40D as well; I sold it when I got my 5DMkII and then regretted not having a crop sensor anymore, so I bought a 7D for sports and such. When I review my pictures, it's obvious the 40D is a very capable body and holds its own even today. The 7D is better but FWIW to me the 40D has more soul than the 7D, but probably only because it was my first DSLR.
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« Reply #69 on: September 16, 2013, 12:21:57 AM »
it's obvious the 40D is a very capable body and holds its own even today.

For the most part I have a hard time telling photos taken from my 40D and 7D apart. I love the newer features of the 7D but the 40D still holds it's own against any of the newer cameras in terms of ease of use and image quality.

What makes the 40D even better at this time is that you can find very lightly used bodies for $200-$300. That's a steal for a very capable camera that you can afford to throw in the car and take anywhere and use without risk of hurting it, and even if you do, it can be replaced cheaply and easily. Why? Becuase most people overlook it and go for the 50D or 60D instead. The 50D still commands a decent amount for good used bodies, but I have done side by side screen shots and I can't tell them apart. So why pay the extra $$$? :)

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« Reply #70 on: September 16, 2013, 02:45:48 AM »
it's obvious the 40D is a very capable body and holds its own even today.

For the most part I have a hard time telling photos taken from my 40D and 7D apart. I love the newer features of the 7D but the 40D still holds it's own against any of the newer cameras in terms of ease of use and image quality.

What makes the 40D even better at this time is that you can find very lightly used bodies for $200-$300. That's a steal for a very capable camera that you can afford to throw in the car and take anywhere and use without risk of hurting it, and even if you do, it can be replaced cheaply and easily. Why? Becuase most people overlook it and go for the 50D or 60D instead. The 50D still commands a decent amount for good used bodies, but I have done side by side screen shots and I can't tell them apart. So why pay the extra $$$? :)

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In fact, noise levels on the 40D are better than on the 50D. This talk almost makes me want to get a 40D for nostalgia sake (but I have to be reasonable and NOT do that).
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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #71 on: September 16, 2013, 02:57:41 AM »
Hi there,

I feel it's a waste of money upgrading from one Canon rebel to the next rebel or even a 60D to the 70D.
I suggest that you upgrade only to a larger sensor body.
It is just a waste of money to buy another camera having the same size sensor IMO.

Upgrade your glass instead.

Your are right, it is a waste of money to upgrade from a 60D to a 70D, or even more so to upgrade a 650D to a 700D.

It is a different story if the upgrade is from a 50D or even 40D to a 70D, or from a 450D to a 700D. Actually it is a waste of money to upgrade any electronic device after one or two years, be it a Canon camera or a Nikon or a Sony or whatever; or be it a smartphone a nav-system, a homecinema. There are no big improvements from one model to the next one.

Everybody has to find his own way of replacing and updating equipment. For me as an amateur photographer the target age for a camera is 5 years. Right now I'm replacing my 7 1/2 year old 350D with a 70D, this is a nice upgrade, and well worth the money. In 5 more years the 90D will be out, and if I wait another 2 years, then it will be the 100D.....

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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2013, 06:36:33 AM »
Hi there,

I feel it's a waste of money upgrading from one Canon rebel to the next rebel or even a 60D to the 70D.
I suggest that you upgrade only to a larger sensor body.
It is just a waste of money to buy another camera having the same size sensor IMO.

Upgrade your glass instead.

Your are right, it is a waste of money to upgrade from a 60D to a 70D, or even more so to upgrade a 650D to a 700D.

It is a different story if the upgrade is from a 50D or even 40D to a 70D, or from a 450D to a 700D. Actually it is a waste of money to upgrade any electronic device after one or two years, be it a Canon camera or a Nikon or a Sony or whatever; or be it a smartphone a nav-system, a homecinema. There are no big improvements from one model to the next one.

Everybody has to find his own way of replacing and updating equipment. For me as an amateur photographer the target age for a camera is 5 years. Right now I'm replacing my 7 1/2 year old 350D with a 70D, this is a nice upgrade, and well worth the money. In 5 more years the 90D will be out, and if I wait another 2 years, then it will be the 100D.....

Target ages vary across the range, I'd say. Comparable to release intervals, a (semi) pro body will have a longer practical life than a lower range body. I'm amazed you're still using a 350D ;)
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« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2013, 12:18:55 AM »
I'm amazed you're still using a 350D ;)

EDIT 9-19-12 (I did not mean to call it a 350D, I meant that he had a 300D, the first Rebel)

This is funny because I work with a guy who still uses his 350D and he swears by it. He says a couple of reasons why he still loves it is because 1) The pixel pitch is 7.4um (close to the full frame 5D & 5D2) and produces noise free images all the way through his ISO range and it is a larger body than the newer Rebels and feels "beefier".

I suppose that is a testomony to the quality of Canon's products, that such an "old" DSLR is still going strong, even after years and years of use. Personally? I would have dumped it years ago in favor of the newer, brighter (and larger) LCD back displays. I can't imaging how we got past such a small, dim display and made it work, but compared to film, at least you got something to look at vs. having to wait to develop your film to see...

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Re: If you plan to upgrade your camera, read
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2013, 01:17:50 AM »
I'm amazed you're still using a 350D ;)
He says a couple of reasons why he still loves it is because 1) The pixel pitch is 7.4um (close to the full frame 5D & 5D2) and produces noise free images all the way through his ISO range

This is nonsense, check this out and tell him to get a 300D instead!

http://www.saratogaskies.com/articles/pattern-noise/
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