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procamerashop?
« on: September 07, 2013, 11:53:04 AM »
Anyone know what's going on at
http://www.procamerashop.co.uk/
Apart from not a lot according to my browser, seems like a very strange way to shut down a web site though.

Anyone got outstanding orders?  :(




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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2013, 02:17:12 PM »
That's the internet for you - just because their site has gone AWOL doesn't mean they're dead in the water. I just spent a fortune with Mifsuds and their site isn't available either. Probably just down for maintenance...or something more nefarious.

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2013, 05:29:16 AM »
Indeed but a customer on another web site has reported that all orders have been cancelled.
I've been thinking about using them but this has put doubt in my mind hence the original post

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Re: procamerashop?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2013, 07:09:19 AM »
Handing over big money to a "cut price" outfit is a bit risky - you always wonder how difficult it's going to be to get your money back if it suddenly ceases trading.

I understand this shop only supplied their own warranty so even though you might have received your ordered item the warranty is obviously worthless if it goes bust.

Always worth paying a bit extra for your lens in order to get a proper Canon warranty IMO.


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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 11:06:58 AM »
Plainsman - yup, that's why I sucked it up and bought from Mifsuds. UK shop, EU warranty. Can't fault 'em.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 12:39:11 PM »
They are actually a Hong Kong company.  There is going to be a lot of fallout in the camera business, no matter where a company is located.  Sales are dismal.
 
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 06:38:20 AM »
Maybe they ran into tax problem? ... I sometimes buy products from Digitarev (a Hongkng based company), they always under invoice their customs value (that's how they are able to give free shipping and no customs duty charges for the customer) ... for my Sigma 150-500 OS lens, I had paid US$ 908.43 but the customs declaration by Digitelrev shows it as $363 ... also the weight is shown as 1KG, where as the lens weight is almost 2KG. These companies come up with such ideas to "bypass" taxes/customs etc ... so, maybe the UK authorities might have picked up on it.
It would be interesting for people, who bought from procamerashop, tp check their invoices/customs declaration forms.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 08:18:41 AM »
also the weight is shown as 1KG, where as the lens weight is almost 2KG.

They get back charged for incorrect shipping weights by the carrier (assuming UPS or Fedex).  They probably pick 1KG so they don't have to weigh every package and just let the carrier deal with it.  At least that is what happened when I worked in shipping.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 12:34:46 PM »
also the weight is shown as 1KG, where as the lens weight is almost 2KG.

They get back charged for incorrect shipping weights by the carrier (assuming UPS or Fedex).  They probably pick 1KG so they don't have to weigh every package and just let the carrier deal with it.  At least that is what happened when I worked in shipping.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 04:26:01 PM »
Indeed but a customer on another web site has reported that all orders have been cancelled.
I've been thinking about using them but this has put doubt in my mind hence the original post
I emailed them last night and got a reply this morning to say they are having technical problems.

I've personally used them in the past for quite a lot of business without issue, and with direct bank transfers. I've spoken to them on the phone, but also done transactions via email. I always check the item is in the UK and will ship in the normal period stated, which to be fair it always has (bar one occasion)

If you're worried, then you perhaps could consider using your credit card if it covers you against bankruptcy, but I would certainly hold off until the website appears then speak to them on the phone. I would add, as I have in the past, that I have no affiliation with them at all....

Re Warranty - fair point, of course all the lenses are made in either China, Taiwan or Japan (mainly the latter I believe), so you are taking a risk, but I've not had any problem with L gear purchased from them in the past 2 years....
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2013, 08:03:16 AM »
The site is returning a 503 status, which means that the web service that runs the site is down. Sniffing through the headers of the page it says the back office server is at capacity, which usually means it's run out of hard drive space or memory. Looks like a hosting issue rather than a "we've had our site taken down for nefarious reasons" kind of thing!

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2013, 07:18:32 PM »
Ah, S___. I love PCS. I've spent thousands with them over the years.




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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 06:23:53 PM »
I followed up again via email to understand the situation with respect to warranty. I received a prompt reply - essentially they are still honouring any warranty but they are unable to to provide pricing or ordering at this time.

So I think as was suggested, they are perhaps in negotiation over trading terms within the UK Inland Revenue & Customs, being based out of Hong Kong. I don't get why you would not post a landing page on the website - maybe they fear the truth is worse than no response...
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Re: procamerashop?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2013, 09:07:44 PM »
Sad to see they're still not back... I've happily handed over a few thousand pounds to these guys too, would love to see them back on their feet!

Does anyone know where's similar, cheap and cheerful? Ideally closer to PCS prices than DigitalRev? ;)
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 02:06:45 AM »
Sad to see they're still not back...
Wow, that's over a month since they are out of action ... my original doubt that they might be having issues with tax authorities could be true after all.
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