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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2013, 10:03:32 AM »
I'm a bit confused. Are we supposed to comment on the images or the heavily post processed use of filters and HDR here?  ::)
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Re: Review: EOS M System
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 10:36:01 AM »
Constructive.

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 11:13:06 AM »
I'm a bit confused. Are we supposed to comment on the images or the heavily post processed use of filters and HDR here?  ::)

As Paul said, this isn't very constructive.  To answer your question, though, the primary reason that I have continued to post pictures here is twofold:

1)  I typically post them in conjunction with a comment on either functionality or a lens combination not really addressed in the review.  The pictures are typically processed because I am just posting links to pictures that I have shared on Flickr that reflect my view/brand in the marketplace (one that has served me well, I might add).  I included some unprocessed images as part of the review; I am not going to continue to produce pictures specifically for this thread.

2)  This particular review has had very little discussion and, frankly, I am keeping the thread alive in hopes of getting more dialogue going.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 11:14:42 AM »
P.S.  There is currently no Lens Gallery for the EF-M 18-55 STM.  I may go ahead and open one, but it does seem that the swell of interest in the camera when it went on the firesale has diminished for the present.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 11:43:33 AM »
Constructive.

@ Paul - LOL. Awesome.

@ Dustin - Thanks for taking the time. This post/review would have actually helped me a lot if I were still looking at buying one (already have one). I think it will definitely be very eye opening and/or informative to many others. Also, awesome work as usual. Keep the images coming.

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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 12:01:10 PM »
Yeah, awesome. 3 important points here:

"I typically post them in conjunction with a comment on either functionality or a lens combination not really addressed in the review.  The pictures are typically processed because I am just posting links to pictures that I have shared on Flickr that reflect my view/brand in the marketplace (one that has served me well, I might add). "  So you're just using the forum to showcase your work.

"This particular review has had very little discussion" I wonder why?

"interest in the camera when it went on the firesale has diminished for the present." Ya think? It's only been out for 16 months.

How's the autofocus in video mode on moving objects, like an animal moving across the plane of vision?
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 12:11:52 PM »
Yeah, awesome. 3 important points here:

"I typically post them in conjunction with a comment on either functionality or a lens combination not really addressed in the review.  The pictures are typically processed because I am just posting links to pictures that I have shared on Flickr that reflect my view/brand in the marketplace (one that has served me well, I might add). "  So you're just using the forum to showcase your work.

"This particular review has had very little discussion" I wonder why?

"interest in the camera when it went on the firesale has diminished for the present." Ya think? It's only been out for 16 months.

How's the autofocus in video mode on moving objects, like an animal moving across the plane of vision?

With all due respect, if your intent is to insult, you have succeeded.  That's your right...as is mine to post whatever the moderators deem fit.  This is an open forum.

"interest in the camera when it went on the firesale has diminished for the present." Ya think? It's only been out for 16 months. My comment regarding the firesale has nothing to do with how long the camera has been out.  Rather the opposite.  There was a groundswell of interest around here going back about 3-4 months ago when the discounted price began.  I wrote this review during that time period because there was a renewed interest in the platform and people were asking questions.

How's the autofocus in video mode on moving objects, like an animal moving across the plane of vision?  I see that you own the camera yourself.  Why don't you answer that question and let me criticize your response for a change?  ;D
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Re: Review: EOS M System
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 01:33:41 PM »
Everything I've read nearly points to this being a replacement for the 650D.  (Minus the obvious physical differences and the fact that I can't use EF-S lenses directly)

As a hobbyist/traveller this intrigues me - Is the only real difference I'd be losing is that the EF-M's 11-22 mignt not be as good as the EF-S's 10-22?

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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2013, 01:41:51 PM »
Everything I've read nearly points to this being a replacement for the 650D.  (Minus the obvious physical differences and the fact that I can't use EF-S lenses directly)

As a hobbyist/traveller this intrigues me - Is the only real difference I'd be losing is that the EF-M's 11-22 mignt not be as good as the EF-S's 10-22?

I have read nothing but good about the 11-22 so far, but I don't know that I have seen a direct comparison of the two lenses.  I just checked if Bryan over at the TDP had added the 11-22 to his chart testing, but that doesn't appear to be the case.  The trend with the newer STM lenses is that they are all sharper than the lenses that they are replacing, but, of course, the 11-22 isn't a direct replacement of the 10-22mm.

I personally doubt that you would lose anything (other than a mm of focal length, which could be an issue), and would gain the IS of the 11-22.  I would love to see the two lenses compared head to head.  I used the 10-22 when I shot crop and found it a very good lens.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2013, 01:52:02 PM »
@Dustin: I have read your review with great interest and although I haven't yet decided on purchasing an M or not, seeing your actual pictures is really useful as part of a review to see some real world results and yes, I do like the look of those images. This is more important to me to make a purchasing decision then technical discussions of aspects I couldn't care less about.

Your pictures on this forum have had more than a passing effect on what I do, as for example your 135mm f2 images have influenced me not only to purchase that particular lens, but also how I use the lens. Thanks a lot!

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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 02:10:25 PM »
@Dustin: I have read your review with great interest and although I haven't yet decided on purchasing an M or not, seeing your actual pictures is really useful as part of a review to see some real world results and yes, I do like the look of those images. This is more important to me to make a purchasing decision then technical discussions of aspects I couldn't care less about.

Your pictures on this forum have had more than a passing effect on what I do, as for example your 135mm f2 images have influenced me not only to purchase that particular lens, but also how I use the lens. Thanks a lot!

Glad to have been of help.  The M is good purchase for one of two applications, IMO.  1)  If you want a light walkaround camera that offers good image quality. 2) As a backup body that your existing lenses will work on with the little adapter.  There are arguably better options for #1, but for the combination of #1 and #2 there few competitors.

If you are on the fence, I would advise you to wait and see if Canon makes any announcements that show ongoing support for the platform. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2013, 02:31:20 PM »
Well written and very fair!

I agree with your point about the updated FW AF - had it been the original FW, few complaints would have been heard about it.  Is it currently class leading?  No.  Is it more than capable for most applications?  Yup!

I haven't seen one yet (not saying it doesn't exist though) but I think it would be nice if someone reviewed the M from the perspective of a P&S upgrader - especially at the current prices.  I find myself recommending it frequently for those folks.
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Re: Review: EOS M System
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2013, 03:16:43 PM »
Here is one for you with M + 18-55 IS STM - Transfagarasan, Romania:

It's great in terms of sharpness, I have made some contrast adjustments, but the clouds and everything else are real.

Extreme metal festival with M + 22mm? No problem - Alan Averill(Primordial):

 

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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2013, 03:51:22 PM »
Here is one for you with M + 18-55 IS STM - Transfagarasan, Romania:

It's great in terms of sharpness, I have made some contrast adjustments, but the clouds and everything else are real.

Extreme metal festival with M + 22mm? No problem - Alan Averill(Primordial):

 


That was a really nice moment with the clouds hanging in there. I have done many shots at Swiss mountain passes, but didn't have any luck with a low hanging cloud cover like that. Instead I have often seen clouds hanging way below these high mountain passes. How high is that pass in Romania?

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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2013, 04:14:17 PM »
Here is one for you with M + 18-55 IS STM - Transfagarasan, Romania:

It's great in terms of sharpness, I have made some contrast adjustments, but the clouds and everything else are real.


Nice shot. What an awesome road for a quick ride!

@Justin   Please ignore the snarky comments. Your photos are always interesting and frequently beautiful. They certainly are appropriate and welcome!

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