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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #150 on: December 08, 2013, 04:31:41 AM »

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« Reply #151 on: December 08, 2013, 10:06:13 PM »
Keeping with the "Lunch" venue.

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« Reply #152 on: December 08, 2013, 10:47:10 PM »
And for those that aren't too keen on the Blood etc.

Lunch of a different kind.

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« Reply #153 on: December 09, 2013, 06:57:01 AM »
Keeping with the "Lunch" venue.

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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2013, 09:27:20 AM »
Keeping with the "Lunch" venue.

1Dx 200-400f/4, Shot @ 560mm f/7.1 & 1/400th ISO640
Visually strong and compelling image. Perhaps not for Vegetarians.
And it looks like it is bloody good!  :P

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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2013, 12:32:50 PM »
... my comments previously are a result of experience combined with a need to keep my cool when faced with "delusional" statements from 3rd time Posters.

Haven't heard anything more from mikea, so I guess my guess may have been correct, his objective was to inflame, not to educate or enter into amiable discussion.


I thought your rebuttal to the troll a few days back was masterful - for sure a lot more restrained than my own reply would have been!  ;D It's fine to have and express an opinion, but I'm still waiting for him to post his own images taken with the two lenses he feels are comparable, side by side as you suggested. I have a feeling it could be quite a wait. Talk is cheap, especially on the internet - actually backing it up takes some effort.

If anything I have been pleasantly surprised by the quality of many images from the 200-400 I've seen posted variously on the web, including your own. The quality speaks for itself! Some really great safari captures, I love the DOF in the cheetah pic.

My own copy of the lens is showing out for delivery today, can't wait! I mean, who needs TWO kidneys?!  :D
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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2013, 06:17:06 PM »
My own copy of the lens is showing out for delivery today, can't wait! I mean, who needs TWO kidneys?!  :D

Hi Winglet, Yes, it's the small downside to the Internet, fortunately 99% of what we see & read about on CR make the experience enjoyable & worthwhile, life has it's mike's, I agree, I doubt we'll see any Images.

You will I'm sure Love the 200-400f/4, I am certainly enjoying the experience and the Images I'm getting from the Lens. Having the 200f/2, 300f/2.8 II, 600f/4 & had the 400f/2.8 II I am of the opinion that at those particular ranges the 200-400f/4 is not quite as sharp, have felt that since I first purchased the Lens, but you really do need to zoom to perhaps 3:1 before you will see the difference in sharpness, Canon have certainly put all their smarts into designing an exceptionally good Lens.

the only thing lacking is the ability to shoot @ f/2.8, that would be perfect, but not sure I could carry the thing if it was f/2.8 it would be very heavy, so a back up lens that's f/2 or f/2.8 is always in the Bag as well.

Enjoy your Lens when it arrives and look forward to seeing your Images and more importantly hearing about your experiences of the Lens & how the Kidney removal went.
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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #156 on: December 09, 2013, 06:17:06 PM »

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« Reply #157 on: December 09, 2013, 09:58:52 PM »
Of the many many Lions I've seen, this Guy was the most memorable, the Eyes I've never seen quite so intense as they were on this Chap, he was the Alpha Male in a Coalition of 4 Brothers, the only one with these Rich Pale Yellow eyes, most Lions have that dark Yellow/Orange colouring, this Guy when he looked at you made you shiver.

Seemed to have the unfortunate habit of leading with his Nose as well.

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« Reply #158 on: December 09, 2013, 10:21:45 PM »
Not something I feel exceptionally comfortable with, but from time to time the opportunity presents & I have a go, so any failings are mine, not the gear.

This Guy was sitting in the top of a Tree so I had plenty of time to get ready for when he eventually took to the air.

It's a Bird, it's in Flight, so must be a BIF ??

And to top off my lack of knowledge of Birds in general, I've forgotten what this Guy is called, but the Image was taken in the Serengeti Tanzania, nice looking animal, bird, whatever.

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« Reply #159 on: December 14, 2013, 12:32:39 AM »
Not something I feel exceptionally comfortable with, but from time to time the opportunity presents & I have a go, so any failings are mine, not the gear.

This Guy was sitting in the top of a Tree so I had plenty of time to get ready for when he eventually took to the air.

It's a Bird, it's in Flight, so must be a BIF ??

And to top off my lack of knowledge of Birds in general, I've forgotten what this Guy is called, but the Image was taken in the Serengeti Tanzania, nice looking animal, bird, whatever.

1Dx 200-400f4, Shot @ 377mm f/5.6 & 1/3200th ISO400

Is there a lot of cropping in that shot? It must have been pretty (really, extremely) close if that fills the frame at 377mm.
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« Reply #160 on: December 14, 2013, 08:39:58 PM »
Is there a lot of cropping in that shot? It must have been pretty (really, extremely) close if that fills the frame at 377mm.

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« Reply #161 on: December 14, 2013, 10:26:08 PM »
Is there a lot of cropping in that shot? It must have been pretty (really, extremely) close if that fills the frame at 377mm.

Screen Grab showing Crop.

Nicely done, it must look amazing at full size. Hopefully I'll be able to get that close to something other than a magpie someday.
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« Reply #162 on: December 14, 2013, 10:51:28 PM »
Nicely done, it must look amazing at full size. Hopefully I'll be able to get that close to something other than a magpie someday.

You must be an Aussie, only place I know they have Maggies, hated the damn things as a Kid growing up in place called Kallanie in the northern Wheat-belt of West Aus.

I still have the head scars to prove it.

This Eagle/Hawk (Guide did tell me what it was called but I instantly forgot), made the job easy, he was sitting in a Tree when we slowly drove up, allowed me to get set up, then did the right thing and flew straight towards us, veered left at the last, must have been someone's Pet.

The 1Dx set on 61 point/single point/auto select just zapped onto the Bird and never lost focus, love this set up for Birds & fast animals like cheetahs running down a Kill at 100kph.
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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
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« Reply #163 on: December 15, 2013, 02:06:37 AM »
Nicely done, it must look amazing at full size. Hopefully I'll be able to get that close to something other than a magpie someday.

You must be an Aussie, only place I know they have Maggies, hated the damn things as a Kid growing up in place called Kallanie in the northern Wheat-belt of West Aus.

I still have the head scars to prove it.

This Eagle/Hawk (Guide did tell me what it was called but I instantly forgot), made the job easy, he was sitting in a Tree when we slowly drove up, allowed me to get set up, then did the right thing and flew straight towards us, veered left at the last, must have been someone's Pet.

The 1Dx set on 61 point/single point/auto select just zapped onto the Bird and never lost focus, love this set up for Birds & fast animals like cheetahs running down a Kill at 100kph.

It's a nice image for sure, great job!  But frankly I think even the lowly Rebel T3 might (emphasize might) have grabbed and locked in servo mode with such a large slow-flying bird against a bright sky like that, even with an STM lens.  Cheetahs are a farrrr different story though!! 

I do like how you said the bird waited and then flew just like you wanted it to!  I find the larger birds tend to be easy to shoot in open spaces.  What's hard are the small birds in flight...of course I don't own a 1DX or 5D3...or a great white.  Yesterday I did receive a new 70-300L via UPS.  So far I kind of think it AF's slower than my 70-200 F/4, but its image quality and contrast are even better than I expected.  The IS is subtle in what it can achieve, but turns out to be astounding...haven't fully tested panning mode yet.  I got some tack sharp shots at 1/2 second hand held toward the wide angle end, though (even at 145mm or so).  It seems to be able to do repeatable 1/8 to 1/10-second handheld sharp shots at 300mm...slower than that is repeatable only maybe 1 in 5 times.  That's IS performance almost on par with the 200 f/2L that I rented, but maybe not quite.  It's also flare resistant to the extreme...as is commonly stated about this lens.

Do you find the 200-400 / 1DX able to servo track equally well for subjects moving away from the camera really fast (such as a running cheetah), as it can for when they're running toward the camera?

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« Reply #164 on: December 15, 2013, 03:01:59 AM »
I have been using a CPS loaned 200-400 1.4x the last few days exclusively handheld at various local zoos, both to compare it with other handheld shots from other lenses in my stable of the same animals and to help my case to my CEO (the missus!) that, over the long haul, buying this lens is cheaper than a purchasing gym memberships because I'll actually use the lens!  On the handheld front it was far lighter than I thought it'd be, so much so that I actually enjoy shooting with it handheld, that arm-burning sensation at the end of the day has an odd pleasantness to it.  My wife wouldn't touch it without a monopod so definitely the hand-holdability is relative. 

It is an amazing zoo lens!!!  Here in Arizona many of the animal enclosures are large, so much so I routinely take my 400 5.6.  As eml58 stated if I zoom in whilst in LR I can tell that many images just aren't as sharp as my 200 2.0 or 300 2.8.  However, I ran my favorite 200-400 images, interspersed with similar 200 f2.0 and 300 2.8 images, past family members and they "oohed" and "aahed" appropriately and never once complained about focus (in fairness they likely would have made the same sounds for any images).  Many of the shots I couldn't have gotten without a lens change or multiple camera bodies.

This image, shot at 540mm, is a good representation of how sharp the lens can be with an extender:
http://500px.com/photo/54954232

This one, shot at 400mm, was a family favorite:
http://500px.com/photo/54954252

Here is one from a tiger running towards me, leaping into a pool, shot through a fence, with the teleconverter on:
http://500px.com/photo/54956286

The shot isn't as sharp as I'd like (nothing other than cropping done on this shot) but with my primes I couldn't have gotten the sequence of him moving towards me.  As he got closer I simply flipped off the 1.4x (I wish the lever was on the right hand side) and kept shooting on my 5D3.

CarlTN: regarding moving away from the camera really fast on ai servo I didn't have any issues shooting the big animals coming or going.  Once focus locked initially it kept pace with everything I was shooting with no issues.

Overall I love the ability to zoom in and out, compose a shot on the fly, and pretty much handle most any situation with one lens on one body, especially in the dusty, windy conditions that I often face where changing a lens isn't peril-free or convenient and switching between two bodies isn't ideal.  I did miss the 2.8 when shooting mounted sauropod cervical vertebrae indoors but a flash fixed that easy enough. 

Conclusion?  I'm already looking around the house to see what I can sell  Anyone looking for some old Star Wars toys???


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Re: Photos from 200-400. Also any comments...
« Reply #164 on: December 15, 2013, 03:01:59 AM »