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EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« on: September 30, 2013, 06:03:37 AM »
I was told that macro lenses are always sharper compared to non macro lenses but I was also told that the EF 135 L is called the "Lord of the Red Rings" because it is so incredible sharp, so which one of them is sharper, especially at maximum aperture?
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 06:46:49 AM by Joshua »

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EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 06:22:51 AM »
Both are sharp enough, you should pick the most suitable for your needs.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 06:24:46 AM »
I was told that macro lenses are always sharper compared to non macro lenses but I was also told that the EF 135 L is called the "Lord of the Red Rings" because it is so incredible sharp, so which one of them is sharper, especially at maximum aperture?

the 135mm f2L is slightly sharper.
but it is not really noticeable , maybe only at lab level test , you will be able to discern that resolution difference at wider aperture.
so consider if you need IS or f2 , your focal length preference , and of course , if you need weather sealing or macro or both.
if you do need macro capable optics , then you should get the 100L or even better the Sigma 150,which is actually sharper than both the 100L and the 135mmL.
if you do not need macro , then you need weather sealing and IS , if not go for the 135mm L.
I had both and kept the 135mm f2L and added the Sigma 180mm macro and use my Nikon 200mmf4 Micro Nikkor via an adapter.
but having said all above , I much prefer my 85mmf1.2Lmk2 lens over all those 100-180 range primes.
and if you are ok with only mf lens , you should also consider the Zeiss 135mm f2APO, it is outstanding , maybe even better than the Leica 125mm f2.5 macro in S mount.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 06:47:08 AM »
I think the slight difference in real-world sharpness is secondary to the difference in closest focusing distance.  Remember the 135mm doesn't let you get closer than 3 feet from your subject, which, IMO, really makes it a more specialized lens--portraits, some street photography, landscape panoramas...

I wouldn't sell either my ef 100mm 2.8 macro (non-L) or my 135 because they are so very different.  I always bring the macro on a nature hike, but I never use it for portraits.  I love the colors, contrast, and bokeh of the 135mm too much.

If you are doing events, remember you can't easily get good detail shots (without lots of cropping) with the 135.  In fact, for weddings, presentations, etc, the 135mm is often limited to set-up type shots, because you have a fixed focal length and have to remain at least 3 feet from your subjects.  With something like a 70-200mm, you have about the same MFD, but more options with focal length.

If you really love portraits, the 135mm may be Canon's very best value.  It is very sharp at f/2, and so sharp at f/2.8 and up that pores and little problems with makeup become a real issue in Photoshop.


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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 06:49:27 AM »

 and of course , if you need weather sealing

Both are L lenses and so I thought both are weather sealed? Am I wrong?

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2013, 06:58:25 AM »

 and of course , if you need weather sealing

Both are L lenses and so I thought both are weather sealed? Am I wrong?

The 135L is not weather sealed

For sharpness, you'll be splitting hairs comparing the 135L with the 100L. Sharpness with both lenses is outstanding.
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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2013, 07:05:32 AM »
The 135L is not weather sealed

For sharpness, you'll be splitting hairs comparing the 135L with the 100L. Sharpness with both lenses is outstanding.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2013, 07:16:08 AM »
Both are sharp enough, you should pick the most suitable for your needs.

I was told this so many times before when I got my Sigma 30/1.4 or my EF 50/1.4 and you know what? Both are soft like jelly at maximum aperture.  >:(
The only thing that can cure my trauma caused by this soft lenses is a razor-sharp lens, the sharpest one. No compromises no more. And when I say sharp I mean sharp not only at small apertures but of course at maximum aperture. Until now I only heard about sharp lenses but never saw them. Just another myth on forums?
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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 07:19:20 AM »
even better the Sigma 150,which is actually sharper than both the 100L and the 135mmL.
Very funny! Is this sharper (especially at full aperture as OP asked)?
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=674&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=807&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2013, 07:31:13 AM »
The 135L is not weather sealed

For sharpness, you'll be splitting hairs comparing the 135L with the 100L. Sharpness with both lenses is outstanding.

Splitting hairs aka pixel peeping is my hobby!   8)

That exactly was my point.

Both lenses are very sharp and distinguishing between the two is extremely tough, even at pixel level detail
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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 07:34:17 AM »
Both are sharp enough, you should pick the most suitable for your needs.

I was told this so many times before when I got my Sigma 30/1.4 or my EF 50/1.4 and you know what? Both are soft like jelly at maximum aperture.  >:(
The only thing that can cure my trauma caused by this soft lenses is a razor-sharp lens, the sharpest one. No compromises no more. And when I say sharp I mean sharp not only at small apertures but of course at maximum aperture. Until now I only heard about sharp lenses but never saw them. Just another myth on forums?

I bought the 200 f2 L, that's closest in focal to the 135 and it's so sharp at f2 that it can't be compared even slightly to anything but the 300 and 400. And even then they only let half the light in. And you get IS and weather sealing that you don't from the 135.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2013, 07:34:47 AM »
The 135L is not weather sealed

For sharpness, you'll be splitting hairs comparing the 135L with the 100L. Sharpness with both lenses is outstanding.

Splitting hairs aka pixel peeping is my hobby!   8)

That exactly was my point.

Both lenses are very sharp and distinguishing between the two is extremely tough, even at pixel level detail

Thank you, so I will go for the 100 L IS USM Macro as I like macro ability almost as much as sharpness.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 07:50:30 AM »

 and of course , if you need weather sealing

Both are L lenses and so I thought both are weather sealed? Am I wrong?

L lens does not mean weather sealed.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2013, 08:20:36 AM »
Thank you, so I will go for the 100 L IS USM Macro as I like macro ability almost as much as sharpness.
Good call.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned about the 100L macro is the fact it has IS...this alone will deliver sharper hand-held images at lower shutter speeds than the 135L.
Both totally brilliant lenses, but the 100 will deliver a higher percentage of keepers.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 08:31:56 AM »
The 135L is not weather sealed

For sharpness, you'll be splitting hairs comparing the 135L with the 100L. Sharpness with both lenses is outstanding.

Splitting hairs aka pixel peeping is my hobby!   8)


That exactly was my point.

Both lenses are very sharp and distinguishing between the two is extremely tough, even at pixel level detail

Thank you, so I will go for the 100 L IS USM Macro as I like macro ability almost as much as sharpness.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 08:31:56 AM »