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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2013, 09:14:08 AM »
Both are sharp enough, you should pick the most suitable for your needs.

I was told this so many times before when I got my Sigma 30/1.4 or my EF 50/1.4 and you know what? Both are soft like jelly at maximum aperture.  >:(
The only thing that can cure my trauma caused by this soft lenses is a razor-sharp lens, the sharpest one. No compromises no more. And when I say sharp I mean sharp not only at small apertures but of course at maximum aperture. Until now I only heard about sharp lenses but never saw them. Just another myth on forums?

If you want "a razor sharp lens, the sharpest one", it is likely to be the 200/2L or the 24/3.5L TS-E.  But I agree with the advice to pick the lens most suitable for your needs.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2013, 09:28:42 AM »


If you want "a razor sharp lens, the sharpest one", it is likely to be the 200/2L or the 24/3.5L TS-E.  But I agree with the advice to pick the lens most suitable for your needs.

Damn, this TS-E 24 seems to be a really freaking piece of monster glass, the filter is 82 mm compared to "only" 72 mm on the EF 85/1.2L which itself is already a big chunk of glass!
But unfortunately it is only an E without the F and I rely very often on autofocus.

The mentioned 200/2 L is without IS too long on APS-C to be used hand-held at availabe light in twilights or at nights imho.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2013, 09:32:45 AM »
I was told that macro lenses are always sharper compared to non macro lenses but I was also told that the EF 135 L is called the "Lord of the Red Rings" because it is so incredible sharp, so which one of them is sharper, especially at maximum aperture?

Dear Joshua.
Here is the MTF. Charts from Canon Manufacture, and Most of our friends can Read/ Understand and Help us  by Explain to us too.
In my Limited Knowledge of MTF. chart reading, I understand that EF 100 L is sharper than EF 135 L, Which I have both of them---Yes, May be I am total wrong--Yes, We need our friend help us.
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PS, Sorry, I Type the Wrong letter ,  Not EFG, Should be EF 135 F/2 L in the Photo.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2013, 09:39:26 AM »
Which I have both of them

You have both of them? You lucky basterd!  ;D

Thank you for the MTF tables, I really think both are just fine for me. I am looking forward to order the 100 L IS as soon as I will get my check from my new employer.

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Re: EF 135 USM L or EF 100 Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 09:54:18 AM »

The mentioned 200/2 L is without IS too long on APS-C to be used hand-held at availabe light in twilights or at nights imho.

The 200mm f2 has IS, it has the four stop version. The 200 f2.8 does not.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2013, 09:54:52 AM »
Which I have both of them

You have both of them? You lucky basterd!  ;D

Thank you for the MTF tables, I really think both are just fine for me. I am looking forward to order the 100 L IS as soon as I will get my check from my new employer.

Ha, Ha, Ha---I love your Great Words " You have both of them? You lucky basterd!  ;D "---Yes, I Have a smart Wife , who Let me buy every things/ Toys as I want----Yes, I have  Lenses from 8mm. fisheye to 600 mm.= Plus most L lenses + Normal special  Lenses in between.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2013, 09:55:20 AM »
Why does it matter which one is sharper? They are both great lenses designed for completely different purposes.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2013, 10:02:55 AM »
With both lenses wide open the macro is sharper across the frame than the 135, BUT, at f2.8 the 135 has better corner sharpness than the macro.

At f8 your 50 f1.4 is sharper across the frame than the macro or the 135.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2013, 11:37:54 AM »

At f8 your 50 f1.4 is sharper across the frame than the macro or the 135.

That well may be but I use my lenses most of the time wide open as I prefer short times to avoid camera shaking. And to realise short times when light is poor you need wide open lenses, no chance for f/8. Also the corners are of a lesser interest to me, therefore no need for small f-numbers. I want lenses that are sharp as sharp can be wide open (in the middle). The sharpest lens only at small f-numbers is of no use for me.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2013, 11:52:05 AM »
i have both those lenses and they are both very sharp. but....i use them for different purposes. i don't do much macro work so the 135 is a much more useful lens for me. i use it for portraits and indoor sports (basketball, volleyball, wrestling). if i had to have one or the other, then i would get the 135. i wish that the 135 had IS and i have heard that canon may update it to an IS version in the next year. it seems odd to me that you are comparing the 135 to the 100 macro since they are lenses that most would probably be used for different things. i would pick the one that you intend to use the most. for me that is the 135. no question about it. but it is really nice to have the 100 macro when i need it which isn't very often.

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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 12:01:54 PM »

At f8 your 50 f1.4 is sharper across the frame than the macro or the 135.

That well may be but I use my lenses most of the time wide open as I prefer short times to avoid camera shaking. And to realise short times when light is poor you need wide open lenses, no chance for f/8. Also the corners are of a lesser interest to me, therefore no need for small f-numbers. I want lenses that are sharp as sharp can be wide open (in the middle). The sharpest lens only at small f-numbers is of no use for me.

Dear Joshua.
Just my Idea, Now past 2-3 years, The Camera are  design so great at Low ISO up to 1600 with minimum noise, We do not need wide Opening of F. Stop any way, Except to get the total Back ground Blur, I use 2-3 stop above Total  Open Wide  F. stop of the Lens that I use ( If I use 85 mm 1.2 L II, I will use 1.8,  or 2.0 in the dark area), and still get the best sharpest of the Lens in the dark area.
Just My Idea.
But I love to  use F. stop at  1.2 ( by set up Canon at AV. mode, and ISO = 100) with  Cir. PL, 4 ND, or 8 ND.  Filter in the sunshine day and get rid of the unwanted Background. Please see the photos below.
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 02:30:12 PM »

Dear Joshua.
Just my Idea, Now past 2-3 years, The Camera are  design so great at Low ISO up to 1600 with minimum noise, We do not need wide Opening of F. Stop any way, Except to get the total Back ground Blur, I use 2-3 stop above Total  Open Wide  F. stop of the Lens that I use ( If I use 85 mm 1.2 L II, I will use 1.8,  or 2.0 in the dark area), and still get the best sharpest of the Lens in the dark area.
Just My Idea.
But I love to  use F. stop at  1.2 ( by set up Canon at AV. mode, and ISO = 100) with  Cir. PL, 4 ND, or 8 ND.  Filter in the sunshine day and get rid of the unwanted Background. Please see the photos below.
Nice to talk to you.
Surapon

Your pictures are awsome, you definitely deserve every single lens you have. Kudos! I will try to make use of your tips to get the same results.

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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 04:15:29 PM »

Dear Joshua.
Just my Idea, Now past 2-3 years, The Camera are  design so great at Low ISO up to 1600 with minimum noise, We do not need wide Opening of F. Stop any way, Except to get the total Back ground Blur, I use 2-3 stop above Total  Open Wide  F. stop of the Lens that I use ( If I use 85 mm 1.2 L II, I will use 1.8,  or 2.0 in the dark area), and still get the best sharpest of the Lens in the dark area.
Just My Idea.
But I love to  use F. stop at  1.2 ( by set up Canon at AV. mode, and ISO = 100) with  Cir. PL, 4 ND, or 8 ND.  Filter in the sunshine day and get rid of the unwanted Background. Please see the photos below.
Nice to talk to you.
Surapon

Your pictures are awsome, you definitely deserve every single lens you have. Kudos! I will try to make use of your tips to get the same results.

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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 04:15:29 PM »

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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2013, 11:50:48 PM »
Just a quick question guys ... if you were to see images taken with both the 100L and the 135L, would you be able to tell which image was taken with which lens?

Also, if you would be able to identify the lens used solely on the basis of sharpness?
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2013, 12:19:15 AM »
Just a quick question guys ... if you were to see images taken with both the 100L and the 135L, would you be able to tell which image was taken with which lens?

Also, if you would be able to identify the lens used solely on the basis of sharpness?

No you absolutely can not tell the lens used 99% of the time and never because of sharpness, I have posted images before shot with both and even the most stubborn 135 protagonist got one right out of twelve!
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Re: EF 135 L USM or EF 100 L Macro IS USM - which one is sharper?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2013, 12:19:15 AM »