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why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« on: October 21, 2013, 04:43:08 PM »
I noticed that there's some lens listing for a lower price because the red ring is gone. I have zero interest in these listings but I'm curious why people would want to scratch the ring off intentionally.  I saw quite a few of these. Any ideas?
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why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 04:44:53 PM »
On some lenses, at least, the red ring is a separate plastic band around the lens. If that band gets cracked, the red ring falls off.  I would not be inclined to buy such a lens, not due to the lack of a red ring, but rather due to uncertainty about what other damage might have been caused by the impact that cracked the red ring.
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2013, 04:45:52 PM »
 red ring draws attention which could lead to a  robbery.   why do rich people not keep a wallet stuffed with  hundred dollar bills.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2013, 04:47:16 PM »
 define scratched.   was the ring there and they filed it down to the black plastic?
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2013, 04:54:22 PM »
the red ring is taken off completely such that the lens is black only. Saw a few of these on ebay and amazon.  Seems very suspicious to me. I can't think of other reasons other than deterring theft and robbery.

It's kind of dumb though.  A Mercedes still looks like a Mercedes without the logo.
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2013, 05:00:26 PM »
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 05:18:05 PM »
On some lenses, at least, the red ring is a separate plastic band around the lens. If that band gets cracked, the red ring falls off.  I would not be inclined to buy such a lens, not due to the lack of a red ring, but rather due to uncertainty about what other damage might have been caused by the impact that cracked the red ring.

This happened to our 24-105 - which is a heavily used lens, but hasn't suffered any impacts.  I have no idea why the red ring cracked.  Of course other people may have lost the red ring due to an impact....
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 05:19:37 PM »
There is a design/material issue with 24-105L lens (apart from the aperture flex cable which snaps after some years of use). The red ring is a brittle plastic ring which have some chance to spontaneously crack and fall off. I don't think all of the are intentional, at least I have seen / owned 2 24-105 lenses which the red ring cracked by itself.

Of course auctions of this type would not attract the red ring whores but apart from partially weakened weather seal around the red ring/focus ring, the lens performance is not affected.

That being said, the 24-105L is dubbed the 'kit lens' of Canon entry level FF cameras, don't put up your hope too high that it gives the best construction because it does not.

Also, is a red ring really boost your ego?  ::)
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 05:25:14 PM »
Yup. One day the bling ring came off of my 24-105 while removing it from my shoulder bag. The lens had not suffered any injury to my knowledge. It was on my travel rig that is usually in the trunk of my car (S FL), so I had assumed that the lens barrel expanded in the heat more than the brittle plastic could tolerate. I let it be for a few weeks, but the lens just looked wrong so I superglued it back on.

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 05:25:41 PM »
Get a red rubber band and your problem is solved  ::)

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 05:50:49 PM »
Ic. Interesting. Thanks everyone.
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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 07:19:22 PM »
Same story with mine. No drops or bangs, but the ring cracked and fell off. Interestingly, I had scheduled to send it in to CPS for cleaning and asked them to replace, repair or ? They said "OK" at no charge. When I received it back, all they did was to turn the ring so the break is at the bottom of the lens and add a short piece of clear tape. Seems like a less than adequate repair.

But I AM quite satisfied with CPS in general. No complaints. Actually, except for the tape repair, CPS is quite impressive.

Glad to hear that it can be super glued back on. I was thinking of doing the same but was worried about the chemical reaction on the lens body. But based on brad-man's experience, I'll give 'er a try.

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 07:23:49 PM »
I noticed that there's some lens listing for a lower price because the red ring is gone. I have zero interest in these listings but I'm curious why people would want to scratch the ring off intentionally.  I saw quite a few of these. Any ideas?

The red ring is a plastic band, and sometimes breaks and falls off.  It might be a sign of poor maintenance.  Canon will usually send you a replacement band if you ask them nicely.

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 07:25:00 PM »
On some lenses, at least, the red ring is a separate plastic band around the lens. If that band gets cracked, the red ring falls off.  I would not be inclined to buy such a lens, not due to the lack of a red ring, but rather due to uncertainty about what other damage might have been caused by the impact that cracked the red ring.

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and +1 (although to be fair, I've heard on one or two designs it can come off after time even if treated well)

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Re: why would anyone scratch off the red ring of an L lens?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 07:54:12 PM »
Because sometimes you need to attract as least attention to your gear as possible.
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