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Re: Sony A7 photo sample - share Sony A7 series photos here
« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2013, 01:10:05 PM »
Nasim Mansurov over at the Photography Life website did an ISO comparison with the Sony A7R v. Nikon D800E:

http://photographylife.com/sony-a7r-vs-nikon-d800e-iso-comparison

and the Sony A7 v. Nikon D600

http://photographylife.com/sony-a7-vs-nikon-d600-iso-performance

He had to use the kit lens on the Sony cameras, so it's hard to say if the Nikon sensors are better, but Nikon has slightly better results in his comparison.
Gino, thanks for sharing the links ... yeah, it is a bit early to compare the high ISO performance with only the kits lens ... once the Zeiss 24-70 comes out, it would probably give a better idea. I am not very keen on getting the 35mm f/2.8 or the 55 f/1.8 lens as I probably won't use them that much ... coz it doesn't make sense for me to get the current 2 prime lenses (35mm & 55mm) when their size works out equal to (or bigger than) the Zeiss 24-70mm zoom lens.
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« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2013, 01:53:12 AM »
I am not very keen on getting the 35mm f/2.8 or the 55 f/1.8 lens as I probably won't use them that much ... coz it doesn't make sense for me to get the current 2 prime lenses (35mm & 55mm) when their size works out equal to (or bigger than) the Zeiss 24-70mm zoom lens.

Only issue Rienz is the Zeiss Zoom will be f/4, not too bad I know, but the 35 is f/2.8 & so far I'm impressed with the Lens, hope to have the 55f/1.8 by Xmas, and I pick up the Otus 55f/1.4 tomorrow on the way to Australia.
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« Reply #77 on: December 16, 2013, 06:54:30 AM »
I am not very keen on getting the 35mm f/2.8 or the 55 f/1.8 lens as I probably won't use them that much ... coz it doesn't make sense for me to get the current 2 prime lenses (35mm & 55mm) when their size works out equal to (or bigger than) the Zeiss 24-70mm zoom lens.

Only issue Rienz is the Zeiss Zoom will be f/4, not too bad I know, but the 35 is f/2.8 & so far I'm impressed with the Lens, hope to have the 55f/1.8 by Xmas, and I pick up the Otus 55f/1.4 tomorrow on the way to Australia.
Congratulations! ... I would have picked up the Zeiss 35 f/2.8, but I tend to use the primes a lot less (TBH, hardly ever ... the only prime that gets a lot of work from me is the EF 100 L IS), as I'm more of a "run n gun" kind of hobbyist, so I prefer the zoom lenses. Also, I'm not as good as you, when it comes to getting the best out of the lenses ... I follow almost all of the images you post and they are stunning. I really envy your artistic images. By the way I'll be in Australia on the 18th Dec, where are you getting the Otus 55 f/1.4 from, I might want to go to the same store and check it out.   
Edit: Never mind, I just saw the price of that lens :o ... can't afford it.
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« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2014, 04:54:34 AM »
I was allowed to shoot with the Alpha 7 and 7R last weekend. Impressive Camera with an great IQ. I just got the 28-70 kit lens to shoot with. Bust the pictures are really impressive!
As we did this in an guided workshop it will take some days to get my pics to post here.
But if Sony will release some better lenses, this Camera will be a hit!

My personal impressions: Really superb IQ. We shot e.g. dancing childrean without flashlight at high Iso. And I found no noise! Great colours, really sharp. Superfast AF, even at low light. The Cam is not the fastest at continuous shooting, I think about 3-4 pics a second. But, most of them are super sharp.
A tricky situation will be to change the lens, ´cause of the uncovered sensor. This might be an problem if you are outside...
But simply the best IQ I have seen in the last month. Much better than my 7D and better than my 6D.

Canon will do hard to meet the IQ at this range of price (1400€ body)

If Sony releases some more lenses, a definitive competitor to the Canon and Nikon DSLRs.

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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2014, 06:05:45 AM »
I was allowed to shoot with the Alpha 7 and 7R last weekend. Impressive Camera with an great IQ. I just got the 28-70 kit lens to shoot with. Bust the pictures are really impressive!


no noise! Great colours, really sharp. Superfast AF, even at low light. The Cam is not the fastest at continuous shooting, I think about 3-4 pics a second. But, most of them are super sharp.
A tricky situation will be to change the lens, ´cause of the uncovered sensor. This might be an problem if you are outside...
But simply the best IQ I have seen in the last month. Much better than my 7D and better than my 6D.

Canon will do hard to meet the IQ at this range of price (1400€ body)

If Sony releases some more lenses, a definitive competitor to the Canon and Nikon DSLRs.
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« Reply #80 on: January 16, 2014, 09:52:05 AM »
a few more ISO 6400 samples

I was testing out A7 & A7R with Zeiss 55mm f1.8 yesterday @ local Sony store. I'm now leaning more to A7R + Zeiss 55mm over my original plan A7 & 55mm. I'm not DR or pixelpp guy, however, looking at JPEG photos from A7R, I'm REALLY impressed. In term of AF speed, I didn't see the diff between A7 and A7R when shooting with Zeiss 55mm + Zeiss 35mm.

If Canon 600mm II wasn't on my wishlist for this year or so, I would be shooting with A7r + Zeiss 55mm f1.8 at this moment

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« Reply #81 on: January 16, 2014, 01:48:44 PM »
a few more ISO 6400 samples

I was testing out A7 & A7R with Zeiss 55mm f1.8 yesterday @ local Sony store. I'm now leaning more to A7R + Zeiss 55mm over my original plan A7 & 55mm. I'm not DR or pixelpp guy, however, looking at JPEG photos from A7R, I'm REALLY impressed. In term of AF speed, I didn't see the diff between A7 and A7R when shooting with Zeiss 55mm + Zeiss 35mm.

If Canon 600mm II wasn't on my wishlist for this year or so, I would be shooting with A7r + Zeiss 55mm f1.8 at this moment

DAM "G.A.S" ;D
I can understand the pain brother so much gear that we want but not enough ready cash ;D ... over $12000 for the 600 L II is some serious money, I envy you.
By the way, I ordered the Metabones Canon EF Lens to Sony NEX Smart Adapter (Mark III) adapter a few days ago, it should be arriving on Saturday morning ... I had a chance to test it out in Melbourne last month and really liked how it works, unfortunately they only had a demo version, so I couldn't buy it ... will post some images once I get on this Saturday morning.
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« Reply #82 on: January 17, 2014, 07:01:39 PM »
a few more ISO 6400 samples

I was testing out A7 & A7R with Zeiss 55mm f1.8 yesterday @ local Sony store. I'm now leaning more to A7R + Zeiss 55mm over my original plan A7 & 55mm. I'm not DR or pixelpp guy, however, looking at JPEG photos from A7R, I'm REALLY impressed. In term of AF speed, I didn't see the diff between A7 and A7R when shooting with Zeiss 55mm + Zeiss 35mm.

If Canon 600mm II wasn't on my wishlist for this year or so, I would be shooting with A7r + Zeiss 55mm f1.8 at this moment

DAM "G.A.S" ;D
I can understand the pain brother so much gear that we want but not enough ready cash ;D ... over $12000 for the 600 L II is some serious money, I envy you.
By the way, I ordered the Metabones Canon EF Lens to Sony NEX Smart Adapter (Mark III) adapter a few days ago, it should be arriving on Saturday morning ... I had a chance to test it out in Melbourne last month and really liked how it works, unfortunately they only had a demo version, so I couldn't buy it ... will post some images once I get on this Saturday morning.

How is AF speed?

I'm interested in their native lenses. The Zeiss 35 & 55mm seem very nice and solid. I want to see what Sony/Zeiss has to offer on FE wide angle lenses up coming year. I really like their 55mm. I might be the odd one here, but I like to compose the shot with backscreen over the Op-viewfinder. My eyes get tired after couple hrs shooting with Op-viewfinder. My current compact FF is 5D III + 40pancake, NOT BAD at all ;D

Below was my plan for 2014. As of today, it still on the table for consideration:
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« Reply #83 on: January 17, 2014, 07:26:32 PM »
Below was my plan for 2014. As of today, it still on the table for consideration:

Looks like you plan to keep your Canon gear for 70mm and up and switch to Sony for the shorter focal lengths.  This does play to the advantages of both systems.  Let us know how this works out!
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« Reply #84 on: January 17, 2014, 10:26:52 PM »

By the way, I ordered the Metabones Canon EF Lens to Sony NEX Smart Adapter (Mark III) adapter a few days ago, it should be arriving on Saturday morning ... I had a chance to test it out in Melbourne last month and really liked how it works, unfortunately they only had a demo version, so I couldn't buy it ... will post some images once I get on this Saturday morning.

How is AF speed?

I'm interested in their native lenses. The Zeiss 35 & 55mm seem very nice and solid. I want to see what Sony/Zeiss has to offer on FE wide angle lenses up coming year. I really like their 55mm. I might be the odd one here, but I like to compose the shot with backscreen over the Op-viewfinder. My eyes get tired after couple hrs shooting with Op-viewfinder. My current compact FF is 5D III + 40pancake, NOT BAD at all ;D


I've owned an A7 for a week and for the past couple of days have been trying the Metabones EF adapter using, as it happens, the 40mm pancake along with the 85mm 1.8, comparing it informally along the way with the same lenses on the 5DIII.  I've not had a chance yet to process more than a few of the images, let alone look at all of them closely, but so far I'm inclined to conclude that - somewhat to my surprise - these lenses both create better images on the Sony than on the Canon, including greater sharpness and detail across the frame.  The difference isn't huge, and would doubtless seem less on smaller monitors, but on a 30" monitor it's quite noticeable even without zooming in.  (I now feel tempted to rent an A7r for comparison.)  I also get the impression that the camera meters better, among other things.  A remarkable image-generating device, and engagingly light, too (I've been using it, a Fuji xe-1 and an OM-D for the past few weeks, after which the 5DIII felt heavy and bulky), and, with its excellent EVF and magnification, a great vehicle for manual focus lenses.

BUT - using the adapter you don't want to be in a hurry.  I find it oddly engaging, but it feels a bit as though the AF mechanism was designed by Heath Robinson (do a google image search of you don't know his work) - the lens strolls towards the right place, arrives, looks around a bit to admire the view, moves a tad further, returns to the right place, whereupon it announces that you may press the shutter, assuming you haven't lost interest (in very low light you may need to try more than once, but I was generally pleased by how well it did walking home from work last night after dark).  I'm exaggerating, of course, but if there's a chance your subject will soon move, let alone is moving, good luck.  On the other hand, when the camera thinks it's in focus, it really is - as precisely accurate as it is with the (much faster) native kit lens or as the (extremely fast) AF on OM-Ds.

You should know, by the way, that not all Canon lenses are supported (with the 50mm 1.4 you get aperture control but not AF), and that the list of supported lenses on metabones' site is incomplete (e.g. they don't mention the 28mm IS, 40mm or the 100mm L, but mine work just fine).  And, of course, you can forget about automatic corrections based on lens profiles in LR, DxO etc., so while the 24-105L works too, correcting all that distortion at the wide end might be rather a bore.

So it's rather frustrating in some ways - you may get better-looking photos from Canon lenses on the Sony A7s than you do on Canon bodies, but the process for doing so is slower and a bit more convoluted. And once you've spent $400 on the adapter, they're no longer the cheapest FF cameras you can buy.  Then again, its versatility is marvelous (and if you have a bunch of x->EF adapters, you can just add them to the metabones).  Unless you're patient and willing/able to buy the native lenses, the most sensible route to take for those who need fast focusing is presumably to get an A-mount adapter and some A mount Sony/Minolta AF lenses which, I've read, focus even faster via that adapter than they do on A-mount bodies (though I've no idea if lens profiles in LR etc. still work for any of them).

Unless you're happy with the kit lens (which seems to be surprisingly good for something so cheap and light) and don't want/need wider or longer lenses, I doubt there are many for whom this would likely be their only camera.  If you want to read about a professional photographer's attempts to make it his, this blog is worth looking at:

http://soundimageplus.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Sony%20A7r
   

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« Reply #85 on: January 17, 2014, 10:40:24 PM »

A tricky situation will be to change the lens, ´cause of the uncovered sensor. This might be an problem if you are outside...


I've been using an Olympus OM-D for at least 9 months and, as I almost always use it with prime lenses, change lenses a lot, both inside and outdoors.  So far I haven't seen a hint of sensor-dirt on any photo I've taken; based on what I've read online, this seems typical (I don't know whether this is true of other mirrorless cameras).  Whether Olympus use some special coating or other technology that is unique to them I don't know, but maybe it's grounds for optimism.

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« Reply #86 on: January 17, 2014, 11:47:35 PM »



I've owned an A7 for a week and for the past couple of days have been trying the Metabones EF adapter using, as it happens, the 40mm pancake along with the 85mm 1.8, comparing it informally along the way with the same lenses on the 5DIII.  I've not had a chance yet to process more than a few of the images, let alone look at all of them closely, but so far I'm inclined to conclude that - somewhat to my surprise - these lenses both create better images on the Sony than on the Canon, including greater sharpness and detail across the frame.  The difference isn't huge, and would doubtless seem less on smaller monitors, but on a 30" monitor it's quite noticeable even without zooming in.  (I now feel tempted to rent an A7r for comparison.)  I also get the impression that the camera meters better, among other things.  A remarkable image-generating device, and engagingly light, too (I've been using it, a Fuji xe-1 and an OM-D for the past few weeks, after which the 5DIII felt heavy and bulky), and, with its excellent EVF and magnification, a great vehicle for manual focus lenses.

BUT - using the adapter you don't want to be in a hurry.  I find it oddly engaging, but it feels a bit as though the AF mechanism was designed by Heath Robinson (do a google image search of you don't know his work) - the lens strolls towards the right place, arrives, looks around a bit to admire the view, moves a tad further, returns to the right place, whereupon it announces that you may press the shutter, assuming you haven't lost interest (in very low light you may need to try more than once, but I was generally pleased by how well it did walking home from work last night after dark).  I'm exaggerating, of course, but if there's a chance your subject will soon move, let alone is moving, good luck.  On the other hand, when the camera thinks it's in focus, it really is - as precisely accurate as it is with the (much faster) native kit lens or as the (extremely fast) AF on OM-Ds.

You should know, by the way, that not all Canon lenses are supported (with the 50mm 1.4 you get aperture control but not AF), and that the list of supported lenses on metabones' site is incomplete (e.g. they don't mention the 28mm IS, 40mm or the 100mm L, but mine work just fine).  And, of course, you can forget about automatic corrections based on lens profiles in LR, DxO etc., so while the 24-105L works too, correcting all that distortion at the wide end might be rather a bore.

So it's rather frustrating in some ways - you may get better-looking photos from Canon lenses on the Sony A7s than you do on Canon bodies, but the process for doing so is slower and a bit more convoluted. And once you've spent $400 on the adapter, they're no longer the cheapest FF cameras you can buy.  Then again, its versatility is marvelous (and if you have a bunch of x->EF adapters, you can just add them to the metabones).  Unless you're patient and willing/able to buy the native lenses, the most sensible route to take for those who need fast focusing is presumably to get an A-mount adapter and some A mount Sony/Minolta AF lenses which, I've read, focus even faster via that adapter than they do on A-mount bodies (though I've no idea if lens profiles in LR etc. still work for any of them).

Unless you're happy with the kit lens (which seems to be surprisingly good for something so cheap and light) and don't want/need wider or longer lenses, I doubt there are many for whom this would likely be their only camera.  If you want to read about a professional photographer's attempts to make it his, this blog is worth looking at:

http://soundimageplus.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Sony%20A7r
 

Thanks sdsr for the info

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« Reply #87 on: January 18, 2014, 07:00:35 AM »
BUT - using the adapter you don't want to be in a hurry.  I find it oddly engaging, but it feels a bit as though the AF mechanism was designed by Heath Robinson (do a google image search of you don't know his work) - the lens strolls towards the right place, arrives, looks around a bit to admire the view, moves a tad further, returns to the right place, whereupon it announces that you may press the shutter, assuming you haven't lost interest
;D  ;D  ;D ... just got the lens an hour ago and your description perfectly accurate.
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the list of supported lenses on metabones' site is incomplete (e.g. they don't mention the 28mm IS, 40mm or the 100mm L, but mine work just fine). 
+1 ... I tried a few EF lenses with the Adapter on Sony a7 and the following is what I found:
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« Reply #88 on: January 18, 2014, 09:51:44 AM »
BUT - using the adapter you don't want to be in a hurry.  I find it oddly engaging, but it feels a bit as though the AF mechanism was designed by Heath Robinson (do a google image search of you don't know his work) - the lens strolls towards the right place, arrives, looks around a bit to admire the view, moves a tad further, returns to the right place, whereupon it announces that you may press the shutter, assuming you haven't lost interest
;D  ;D  ;D ... just got the lens an hour ago and your description perfectly accurate.

the list of supported lenses on metabones' site is incomplete (e.g. they don't mention the 28mm IS, 40mm or the 100mm L, but mine work just fine). 
+1 ... I tried a few EF lenses with the Adapter on Sony a7 and the following is what I found:
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« Reply #89 on: January 18, 2014, 10:13:27 AM »
Having tried the 16-35 f/2.8 L II on the Sony a7 with the Metabones adapter, I am very impressed ... now I am pretty set on getting the a7R, sometime in the next 6 months ... will look for price drops, or a refurbished one ... I would like to have it permanently mounted with the 16-35 f/2.8 L II for landscape work.
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