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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #165 on: November 15, 2013, 07:54:25 PM »
Just watched the imax 3d space movie that included some pretty good info on the Hubble space telescope...awesome tech. 

I'm hoping a smaller version of the Hubble is coming from canon in 2014...ef mount "L" of course....red ring optional.
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #165 on: November 15, 2013, 07:54:25 PM »

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #166 on: November 15, 2013, 08:24:25 PM »
Yeah. What lunatic continues to buy gear they hate?

you have not read, what he wrote. He is using multiple Canon bodies for stills and video. Out in the wild.
The last thing I'd want out there is a body from another manufaturer, with different user interface, different sensor characteristics, different batteries, etc. ... how about you?

I would.

I would too with the situation you describe.
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #167 on: November 16, 2013, 02:09:44 AM »
For those who expect a new 200 f2 ii, what new features do you think will be implemented in it?

The new 'white' paint color.  ;)

I'm afraid I tend to agree, here, New White Paint same as the Series II Lenses, 20% less weight ?? (Not sure how much, but some weight saving).

I say "afraid" to agree only because I would love to see the 200f/2 get the series II Lens treatment, but it's my view that the current 200f/2 is so good I just don't see why Canon would do anything to it.

Plus the new Lens should it get the series II treatment, will get the Series II price increase, I had the 300f/2.8 series I and the 400 series I before upgrading both Lenses (have sold the 400 since though), in general the price increase for the series II over the series I has been in the order +/- 30% increase, that would likely see a series II 200f/2 move to above 8K, not sure that would be a smart move for Canon.

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #168 on: November 16, 2013, 02:06:41 PM »
I'd say 8 per year for the next 3 years... :D

EF prime:
 20 2.8 IS
 50 1.8 IS
 90 2.0 IS (replacing 85 & 100)

EF L prime:
 14 2.8
 35 1.4
 50 1.2
 85 1.2
 135 1.8 IS
 200 1.8 IS
 300 4.0 IS
 400 5.6 IS
 800 5.6 IS

EF L zoom:
 12-28 2.8 (replacing 16-35)
 17-50 4.0 IS (replacing 17-40)
 24-70 2.8 IS
 70-200 4.0 IS
 100-400 4.0-5.6 IS

EF L specialty:
 45 2.8 TS
 105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)
 200 4.0 IS Macro (replacing 185 & 200)

EF-S:
 12-18 3.5
 16-55 2.8
 30-150 4.0
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #169 on: November 16, 2013, 06:02:19 PM »
I'd say 8 per year for the next 3 years... :D

EF prime:
 20 2.8 IS
 50 1.8 IS
 90 2.0 IS (replacing 85 & 100)

EF L prime:
 14 2.8
 35 1.4
 50 1.2
 85 1.2
 135 1.8 IS
 200 1.8 IS
 300 4.0 IS
 400 5.6 IS
 800 5.6 IS

EF L zoom:
 12-28 2.8 (replacing 16-35)
 17-50 4.0 IS (replacing 17-40)
 24-70 2.8 IS
 70-200 4.0 IS
 100-400 4.0-5.6 IS

EF L specialty:
 45 2.8 TS
 105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)
 200 4.0 IS Macro (replacing 185 & 200)

EF-S:
 12-18 3.5
 16-55 2.8
 30-150 4.0

How many of them are you planning to add to your lens collection?  :P

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #170 on: November 16, 2013, 08:36:27 PM »
I'd say 8 per year for the next 3 years... :D

EF prime:
 20 2.8 IS
 50 1.8 IS
 90 2.0 IS (replacing 85 & 100)

EF L prime:
 14 2.8
 35 1.4
 50 1.2
 85 1.2
 135 1.8 IS
 200 1.8 IS
 300 4.0 IS
 400 5.6 IS
 800 5.6 IS

EF L zoom:
 12-28 2.8 (replacing 16-35)
 17-50 4.0 IS (replacing 17-40)
 24-70 2.8 IS
 70-200 4.0 IS
 100-400 4.0-5.6 IS

EF L specialty:
 45 2.8 TS
 105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)
 200 4.0 IS Macro (replacing 185 & 200)

EF-S:
 12-18 3.5
 16-55 2.8
 30-150 4.0

How many of them are you planning to add to your lens collection?  :P

None of the EF-S, all the specialty and non-L primes, probably a couple of the zooms depending on price and performance, plus the 135, 300 and 400.
35+ years of Canon gear...good grief! Still have 2 FTb cameras in working order, too!

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #171 on: November 17, 2013, 03:04:40 PM »
105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)

How large do you expect the front element of this Tilt-shift to be?
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #171 on: November 17, 2013, 03:04:40 PM »

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #172 on: November 17, 2013, 06:01:31 PM »
I'd say 8 per year for the next 3 years... :D

EF prime:
 20 2.8 IS
 50 1.8 IS
 90 2.0 IS (replacing 85 & 100)

EF L prime:
 14 2.8
 35 1.4
 50 1.2
 85 1.2
 135 1.8 IS
 200 1.8 IS
 300 4.0 IS
 400 5.6 IS
 800 5.6 IS

EF L zoom:
 12-28 2.8 (replacing 16-35)
 17-50 4.0 IS (replacing 17-40)
 24-70 2.8 IS
 70-200 4.0 IS
 100-400 4.0-5.6 IS

EF L specialty:
 45 2.8 TS
 105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)
 200 4.0 IS Macro (replacing 185 & 200)

EF-S:
 12-18 3.5
 16-55 2.8
 30-150 4.0
I like your list. I could buy:
EF-S 16-55mm F2.8 (my favorite)
EF 200mm F4 IS Macro (could even be F5.6 because for macro I'd only use narrow openings anyway)
EF 90mm F2 IS (great for portrait)
EF 50mm F1.8 IS (if quality and price are fair)

Hopefully Canon listen to your ideas.

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2013, 08:21:30 PM »
105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)

How large do you expect the front element of this Tilt-shift to be?

Agreed. Aren't most of the current TS lenses f/3.5 max aperture?

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #174 on: November 17, 2013, 08:55:57 PM »
105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)

How large do you expect the front element of this Tilt-shift to be?

Agreed. Aren't most of the current TS lenses f/3.5 max aperture?

Sorry, I don't get the point.  How big do you think it would need to be?  The 45mm and 90mm are f/2.8. The TS-E 90mm takes 58mm filters, and the front element is recessed and noticeably smaller than the filter threads.  There's clearly room to add 10-15mm to the focal length, increase the image circle to match the 17/24, and still have a pretty small front element.

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #175 on: November 18, 2013, 06:09:45 AM »
Yeah. What lunatic continues to buy gear they hate?

you have not read, what he wrote. He is using multiple Canon bodies for stills and video. Out in the wild.
The last thing I'd want out there is a body from another manufaturer, with different user interface, different sensor characteristics, different batteries, etc. ... how about you?

If my livelihood depended on it, I would.

I might still do that in part (even though I do this for a hobby). I did not like the WA lenses of Canon so I might just pick up a used D800 (sell quite cheap these days) and the 14-24.

It's such a common perception that pros NEED the best cameras. In most cases they don't, infact they get by using quite humble equipment. The things which amatures prize, are not the same things which pros need or desire. MP count is typically very low on our lists. Reliability and build generally are they highest factors. A client usually doesn't care if a quality image is 18mp or 36mp, as long as it's the image they want, it's sharp and clean. 

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #176 on: November 18, 2013, 06:12:52 AM »
105 2.8 TS Macro (replacing 90 & old 100 macro)

How large do you expect the front element of this Tilt-shift to be?

Agreed. Aren't most of the current TS lenses f/3.5 max aperture?

Sorry, I don't get the point.  How big do you think it would need to be?  The 45mm and 90mm are f/2.8. The TS-E 90mm takes 58mm filters, and the front element is recessed and noticeably smaller than the filter threads.  There's clearly room to add 10-15mm to the focal length, increase the image circle to match the 17/24, and still have a pretty small front element.



I was merely asking an honest question and it was misinterpreted.

I guess if I had to ask my question again, it would be stated like this... Do you think it would have an significant enlargement of front element (to improve IQ when shifting) and an appropriate increase in filter size (e.g. 72mm) or do you think it will retain 58mm filter size of the current 90mm?

Another website (http://camyx.com/rumors/2013/10/canon-ts-e-135mm-f2-8l-lens/) states that the upgrade will be TS-E 135mm f/2.8 L, but I haven't seen any other source with these specifications. I would imagine that such a design would be quite large and heavy vs the old lens, although if included a tripod collar that might be useful.

Does anyone have links to a patent?
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #177 on: November 18, 2013, 08:55:05 AM »
I guess some things do not apply to TS-E world. I do not mean of course the diameter (opening) of the front element but the total size.

See:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818360-REG/Schneider_06_1064382_PC_TS_Super_Angulon.html

The above 90mm TS lens is bigger (length and diameter) and much heavier than Canon! Yet it is f/4.5!!!

The above is just a thought as I am not an expert. But I deducted so from the above example....
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #177 on: November 18, 2013, 08:55:05 AM »

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #178 on: November 18, 2013, 09:58:28 AM »
Yeah. What lunatic continues to buy gear they hate?

you have not read, what he wrote. He is using multiple Canon bodies for stills and video. Out in the wild.
The last thing I'd want out there is a body from another manufaturer, with different user interface, different sensor characteristics, different batteries, etc. ... how about you?

If my livelihood depended on it, I would.

I might still do that in part (even though I do this for a hobby). I did not like the WA lenses of Canon so I might just pick up a used D800 (sell quite cheap these days) and the 14-24.

It's such a common perception that pros NEED the best cameras. In most cases they don't, infact they get by using quite humble equipment. The things which amatures prize, are not the same things which pros need or desire. MP count is typically very low on our lists. Reliability and build generally are they highest factors. A client usually doesn't care if a quality image is 18mp or 36mp, as long as it's the image they want, it's sharp and clean.
funny you should say this......

It's the results that count, not the process... the bride wants to see beautiful pictures of herself and her family/friends.... who cares what the camera and lens are as long as the pictures are good...

And as to what kind of lunatic would buy gear they hate.... Me. In my day job I have test equipment that has user interfaces that are unusable without a manual and notes... I HATE!!! the gear, but it is the best at what it does so that's what we get...
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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #179 on: November 18, 2013, 11:55:10 AM »
Yeah. What lunatic continues to buy gear they hate?

you have not read, what he wrote. He is using multiple Canon bodies for stills and video. Out in the wild.
The last thing I'd want out there is a body from another manufaturer, with different user interface, different sensor characteristics, different batteries, etc. ... how about you?

If my livelihood depended on it, I would.

I might still do that in part (even though I do this for a hobby). I did not like the WA lenses of Canon so I might just pick up a used D800 (sell quite cheap these days) and the 14-24.

It's such a common perception that pros NEED the best cameras. In most cases they don't, infact they get by using quite humble equipment. The things which amatures prize, are not the same things which pros need or desire. MP count is typically very low on our lists. Reliability and build generally are they highest factors. A client usually doesn't care if a quality image is 18mp or 36mp, as long as it's the image they want, it's sharp and clean.

I don't think you read the posts carefully enough. The question here was not if a PRO needs the best camera. AvTvM's question was that why would you buy into a different system? My view is, why not? Learning a new system is by far a better option than buying gear you hate and rant about in internet forums.

Coming to your post, it all depends on what you shoot. Maybe a wedding shooter can get by with the previous generation equipment but wildlife / bird shooters do usually buy the best and the latest equipment to come out with standout photos, or do you mean to suggest that a 1DX with a 600mm f/4 offers no improvement at all?

BTW, isn't it funny how some Pros come out citing humble equipment when they themselves  -

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Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
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