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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #90 on: January 05, 2014, 09:22:09 PM »
I find the 50mm focal length quite boring. I'd rather shoot wider or longer. Canon please skip the 50mm IS and just make a 40mm F/1 IS cupcake (because f/1 wont fit into a pancake)

See, that statement makes no sense to me - how can a focal length be "boring"? That means you must not know how to use it properly if all you get are boring shots. You can use a 50 to get some very nice close portraits with shallow dof. You can do product shots, you can shoot landscapes, street, groups of people etc. the list of subject matter is endless really. Now if all you shoot is pics of you cat then I guess that's a different story ...  :P
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #90 on: January 05, 2014, 09:22:09 PM »

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #91 on: January 06, 2014, 02:18:06 AM »
See, that statement makes no sense to me - how can a focal length be "boring"?

Personally, I do think it makes sense if you read it like "usual": The ~50mm is a "normal" lens which happens to replicate what you perceive with the human eye - so it's a bit harder to create an "unusual" shot based on the focal length *alone*, but of course using 85mm+ doesn't mean that all your shots will be instant classics :-)

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/cameras-vs-human-eye.htm#angle-of-view

Last not least, with the proliferation of digital camera gadgets wide angle looks much more "normal" to me by now than the actual normal lens :-)

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2014, 02:54:54 AM »
Now if all you shoot is pics of your cat then I guess that's a different story ...  :P

50 mil is the ultimate cat focal length ! This was shot at f3.2, ISO 800 and 1/20th. It's just luck that there's little shake, the others were all blurred. I'd really find a 50 f2/1.8 IS useful. Trouble is the cats keep dying of old age and by the time the IS version is released all ours may be dead.

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2014, 08:09:28 AM »
Now if all you shoot is pics of your cat then I guess that's a different story ...  :P

50 mil is the ultimate cat focal length ! This was shot at f3.2, ISO 800 and 1/20th. It's just luck that there's little shake, the others were all blurred. I'd really find a 50 f2/1.8 IS useful. Trouble is the cats keep dying of old age and by the time the IS version is released all ours may be dead.
I must agree. When cats and children are standing in front of a 50mm lens with image stabilizer is the best thing for intimate photos. With the delay in launching the Canon 50mm IS, children grow and cats die of old age. :(
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2014, 04:21:57 PM »
See, that statement makes no sense to me - how can a focal length be "boring"?

Personally, I do think it makes sense if you read it like "usual": The ~50mm is a "normal" lens which happens to replicate what you perceive with the human eye - so it's a bit harder to create an "unusual" shot based on the focal length *alone*, but of course using 85mm+ doesn't mean that all your shots will be instant classics :-)

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/cameras-vs-human-eye.htm#angle-of-view

Last not least, with the proliferation of digital camera gadgets wide angle looks much more "normal" to me by now than the actual normal lens :-)

Photographers can be boring. Lenses aren't. 50mm can be spectacular. 16mm can be crap. 400mm can be crap. Photographers can be amazing.
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #95 on: January 18, 2014, 11:58:34 AM »
I find the 50mm focal length quite boring. I'd rather shoot wider or longer.

Not to pile on, but if I had to pick just one focal length to use, it would be 50mm.

50mm is the most versatile focal length to me, because it has little distortion and can be used as a wide, normal, or tele lens depending on your positioning.  It also can provide fantastic creamy bokeh with a fast lens that wider lenses struggle to do, and can do so without being locked into a 85mm+ telephoto shot.

I have gotten some of the most interesting shots with my 50mm f/1.2L...  I think it depends more on your style if your photographs come out interesting or not.

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #96 on: January 18, 2014, 02:37:03 PM »
I sold my 50mm f/1.4 a while ago because I didn't like what I saw between f/1.4-f/2.5.  I was always shooting at f/2.8 anyway so I figured my 24-70 f/2.8 will do.  With the new Sigma Art 50mm and these rumors, It'll be an exciting year.  I'll be waiting for reviews and for prices to settle before I buy but I definitely want a "large aperture" 50 back in my arsenal.
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #96 on: January 18, 2014, 02:37:03 PM »

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #97 on: January 20, 2014, 11:00:38 PM »
Finally a 50mm with a decent AF system?
The 135mm f/2 L IS would be lovely for weddings!

I agree but if their recent offerings are any guide it would be an f2.8.

I agree... It's a trend for them now to swap bigger apertures for IS and increasing the price. I'm happy with the current 135L and super high ISO capable bodies :)
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2014, 01:03:20 AM »
Finally a 50mm with a decent AF system?
The 135mm f/2 L IS would be lovely for weddings!

I agree but if their recent offerings are any guide it would be an f2.8.

I agree... It's a trend for them now to swap bigger apertures for IS and increasing the price. I'm happy with the current 135L and super high ISO capable bodies :)

Let's try your math again:   :D

"It's a trend for them now to swap bigger apertures for IS + increased sharpness + much higher build quality + internal focusing + faster/more-modern USM and increasing the price."

The non-L IS refreshes have been massive upgrades for what they replaced, and they often stack up well  against their slightly quicker L-series counterparts. 

From all the threads I've read on this, I'd peg the CR forum readers (by any measure an enthusiast/pro community) would be about 50/50 split on the new Sigma 50 F/1.4 Art (assuming it's as good as their 35 Art) vs. a new Canon 50 F/2 IS (assuming it's as good as the 24/28/35 refreshes).  There are willing buyers for both who see the value of a lens somewhat differently.  Neither is right, neither is wrong.

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2014, 06:43:49 PM »
I would still buy the 50mm f/1.2 compared to a 50mm f/1.8 IS or f/2 IS.  50mm f/1.4 IS might be a hard choice.  50mm f/1.2 IS L would be the best, but I might have to save my money for a few months to be able to afford it (if it is possible).

The tricky part is that I have started to shoot some video.  Most of the time I use my tripod, but IS comes in very handy when hand holding video.  I would use f/1.2 for night time photography more however.
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2014, 11:42:41 PM »
assuming we get a 135mm f/2L is, What say everyone about the Paint? will it be white or black?  Since this would be a great indoor sports lens perhaps this will be the new "baby white tele"! Perhaps we should be looking for a small white lense during the Souci Olympics! What sport would a 135mm IS be most likely used? Do they have outdoor night events?

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2014, 02:55:48 AM »
I find the 50mm focal length quite boring. I'd rather shoot wider or longer. Canon please skip the 50mm IS and just make a 40mm F/1 IS cupcake (because f/1 wont fit into a pancake)

See, that statement makes no sense to me - how can a focal length be "boring"? That means you must not know how to use it properly if all you get are boring shots. You can use a 50 to get some very nice close portraits with shallow dof. You can do product shots, you can shoot landscapes, street, groups of people etc. the list of subject matter is endless really. Now if all you shoot is pics of you cat then I guess that's a different story ...  :P

Both points of view are correct.  You can use a 50mm to do all of those things, even do them well.  But an angle of view can become boring to a photographer, very much so.  Why?  Because our eyesight has a fixed angle of view that is very wide.  Depending on my mood, sometimes I want to focus on things that occupy a very narrow part of that view, sometimes wide, sometimes in between...sometimes it's nice to zoom in and out of that field of view.

The whole reason 50mm is popular, is because that's the focal length that makes things appear through the viewfinder, the same size as they do to the naked eye (at least on 1 series finders, and the 7D's...as well as many if not most classic 35mm film camera bodies...depending on their viewfinder magnification). 

50mm is also an angle of view that is still wide enough to allow a perspective on things (at least on a full frame body), while imposing little or no perspective distortion...or technically "rectilinear projection" distortion...at least with full frame or smaller camera sensors.

And on a full frame body, if the 50mm is f/2 (or faster especially), it allows you to get so close to a subject that the focal plane becomes paper thin, throwing most everything out of focus.

I become bored with 50mm much of the time.  I preferred the angle of view the 40mm pancake allowed.  I sold it anyway though, because I can't afford to just own every lens there is...and the 24-105 is really all I need in that range for now (besides my Voigtlander 58mm).

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2014, 12:29:20 PM »
Any recent word on a stabilized 85mm?  Just got the new 35mm IS and love it.  Come on Canon, these shaky hands are waiting...

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2014, 12:53:14 PM »
Any recent word on a stabilized 85mm?

I'm sure there will be a [CR1] about the release month sooner or later :-p ... but obviously many people are baffled by Canon's (non-)release policy, either long-awaited lens upgrades or the famed radio successor the the 430ex2. And the 85IS isn't even on this short list :-p

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2014, 01:09:29 PM »
Any recent word on a stabilized 85mm?

I'm sure there will be a [CR1] about the release month sooner or later :-p ... but obviously many people are baffled by Canon's (non-)release policy, either long-awaited lens upgrades or the famed radio successor the the 430ex2. And the 85IS isn't even on this short list :-p


Thanks for the reply, I'll stick with my 100mm f/2 for now

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Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
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