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Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« on: November 29, 2013, 10:28:03 AM »
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/leica-ceo-syas-not-sure-dslr-will-still-be-alive-in-10-years-no-way-we-go-mft/

I better enjoy my recent purchase Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II before my DSLR dies ;D

I'm not sure how they going to make 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2, 70-200 f2.8, 300mm f2.8 list goes on...small enough to go with mirrorless body.
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Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 10:47:20 AM »
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/leica-ceo-syas-not-sure-dslr-will-still-be-alive-in-10-years-no-way-we-go-mft/

I better enjoy my recent purchase Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II before my DSLR dies ;D

I'm not sure how they going to make 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2, 70-200 f2.8, 300mm f2.8 list goes on...small enough to go with mirrorless body.
They will make a mirror less body to go with the lenses ;)
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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 11:01:26 AM »
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/leica-ceo-syas-not-sure-dslr-will-still-be-alive-in-10-years-no-way-we-go-mft/

I better enjoy my recent purchase Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II before my DSLR dies ;D

I'm not sure how they going to make 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2, 70-200 f2.8, 300mm f2.8 list goes on...small enough to go with mirrorless body.
I'm willing to wager my salary (against against Leica CEO's salary  ;D) that DSLR's will be around a lot longer than 10 years.
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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 11:05:54 AM »
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/leica-ceo-syas-not-sure-dslr-will-still-be-alive-in-10-years-no-way-we-go-mft/

I better enjoy my recent purchase Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II before my DSLR dies ;D

I'm not sure how they going to make 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2, 70-200 f2.8, 300mm f2.8 list goes on...small enough to go with mirrorless body.
I'm willing to wager my salary (against against Leica CEO's salary  ;D) that DSLR's will be around a lot longer than 10 years.

Leica CEO is still hallucinating that AF is just a new technology and they will be the first one to do it.  :D

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 11:08:21 AM »
http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/leica-ceo-syas-not-sure-dslr-will-still-be-alive-in-10-years-no-way-we-go-mft/

I better enjoy my recent purchase Canon 300mm f2.8 IS II before my DSLR dies ;D

I'm not sure how they going to make 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4, 135mm f2, 70-200 f2.8, 300mm f2.8 list goes on...small enough to go with mirrorless body.
I'm willing to wager my salary (against against Leica CEO's salary  ;D) that DSLR's will be around a lot longer than 10 years.

Leica CEO is still hallucinating that AF is just a new technology and they will be the first one to do it.  :D
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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).
 
I believe that all the manufacturers are working on doing this and have a list of critical items that need to be addressed for it to happen.  We can see some of the results with the first generation double pixel technology, and the newer EVO's.  Its merely a question as to when the point will be reached where a reflex design is no longer necessary to get high end performance.

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2013, 11:56:44 PM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).
 
I believe that all the manufacturers are working on doing this and have a list of critical items that need to be addressed for it to happen.  We can see some of the results with the first generation double pixel technology, and the newer EVO's.  Its merely a question as to when the point will be reached where a reflex design is no longer necessary to get high end performance.

I think the evolution of the EVF will pretty much dictate on whether the mirror will go or not.  As of now, I still can't imagine the OVF replaced by an EVF.  The lag and horrible low-light noise are still the weakest links for an EVF.  If they fix these with an unnoticeable refresh and much better low-light performing screen, then I think we'll finally be rid of the mirror.

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2013, 12:55:57 AM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).
 
I believe that all the manufacturers are working on doing this and have a list of critical items that need to be addressed for it to happen.  We can see some of the results with the first generation double pixel technology, and the newer EVO's.  Its merely a question as to when the point will be reached where a reflex design is no longer necessary to get high end performance.

I expect that the 7D2 will be my last DSLR..... By the time I am ready to upgrade from it, I expect that mirror less will be an upgrade....right now it's just the EVF that's holding things back, and they are getting close....
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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2013, 03:51:50 AM »
The day mirrorless replaces DSLRs for good is the day the 135mm F/1.8L IS is released. :P

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 04:40:19 AM »
Well I'll hold out until they start making retro DSLR s, preferably in white..... Oh wait  ::)  ;D

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 04:48:37 AM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).
 
I believe that all the manufacturers are working on doing this and have a list of critical items that need to be addressed for it to happen.  We can see some of the results with the first generation double pixel technology, and the newer EVO's.  Its merely a question as to when the point will be reached where a reflex design is no longer necessary to get high end performance.

+1

And except for AF speed and fps, the a7 is the proof that we are already there.

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 05:47:36 AM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).

I'm pretty sure Canon agrees with this assessment, that's why they're putting r&d into on-sensor af performance and tend to recycle their phase af modules no matter what Nikon does.

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 08:07:39 AM »
I did not read the article, but in 10 years, I would hope that technology has advanced enough to eliminate the need for the reflex mirror, so that we have mirrorless cameras (which are not DSLR's).

I'm pretty sure Canon agrees with this assessment, that's why they're putting r&d into on-sensor af performance and tend to recycle their phase af modules no matter what Nikon does.

It depends on whether Canon and Nikon realize that they're not competing only with each other any more. They have been passing the ball between each other and set the tune for everyone to dance to, but little by little other manufacturers have gone the right way: instead of competing with them, they made their own game.

They arrived late at the mirrorless party. Nikon went with the 1" system that sold well at the beginning, but eventually lost the long term competition. The EOS-M has never really taken off.

Now they have to play catching up again. I don't know if DSLR will be dead in 10 years, but it is possible that they will become a niche market dependent on specialized lenses. It seems reasonable to me, looking at reviews of the a7 pair, that in a few years from now the reasons to buy a DSLR might be very few.

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2013, 11:14:13 PM »
Personally, I don't think whether DSLR is around in 10 years matters that much. If DSLR is dead, then it's because something superior has replaced it.

But what I think we can be pretty sure of, is that in 10 years there will still be bodies/sensors that can take EF lenses.

We as Canon's customers have far too much invested in EF lenses to be interested in giving up the EF mount lenses on such a (relatively) short term horizon.  Canon knows this, and will make sure that we are not overly tempted to abandon them (ie jump ship to, say, Nikon).

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Re: Leica CEO: DSLR might not be alive next 10yrs
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 01:42:46 AM »
Personally, I don't think whether DSLR is around in 10 years matters that much. If DSLR is dead, then it's because something superior has replaced it.

But what I think we can be pretty sure of, is that in 10 years there will still be bodies/sensors that can take EF lenses.

We as Canon's customers have far too much invested in EF lenses to be interested in giving up the EF mount lenses on such a (relatively) short term horizon.  Canon knows this, and will make sure that we are not overly tempted to abandon them (ie jump ship to, say, Nikon).

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