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Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« on: December 18, 2013, 01:28:18 AM »
Dear all,
How difficult life can be. This afternoon I want to make a decision. I will visit the shop and go for the Mark5dIII.
There is a little voice in me whispering why not the 6d? Well, I think go for the 5dIII because you neer know what to shoot in the future.
I've read so much about the 70-200 2.8 (new version). Heavy, but sharp. I know this will be my longest zoom and, visiting Scotland and Shetland, in the nearby feature I will buy extenders to give it a bit more reach.
Should I buy this lens, because the lens will be fast enough with the extenders or should I pick the f.4?
Or is the lens really to heavy and will stay at home too much?
Thank you for reading!

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Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« on: December 18, 2013, 01:28:18 AM »

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 02:17:32 AM »
If you can afford it, its the correct focal length for what you need it for then by all means get asap.

You'll love it!

Regards to weight, mine is attached to my gripped 5DIII with a black rapid strap and I can carry it all day long. (i'm slight built 5'6" male).
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 03:45:15 AM »
Just do it! (no trademark intended)

It is an awesome lense, my wife has one and occasionally I am allowed to use it. 

Sharp and fast, a tad heavy, but the extra few humdred grammes are so worth it  :)
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 04:26:05 AM »
From what I know, the f4 IS version is a really great lens. If f4 is all you'll ever need (and f5.6 or f8 with a 1.4x and 2x TC), then it'll do for you.

However, the 2.8 IS version II is simply stunning. There are only two problems with it - it's price (only you know if you can afford it), and it's weight. I'd suggest finding one in a shop and use it for a bit to see if it's the sort of weight you could use.

Whenever I've got my camera with me, mine is either mounted to the body or in the bag. I wouldn't dream of going out shooting without it.
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 04:54:58 AM »
How difficult life can be. This afternoon I want to make a decision. I will visit the shop and go for the Mark5dIII.
There is a little voice in me whispering why not the 6d? Well, I think go for the 5dIII because you neer know what to shoot in the future.

Good decision if you've got the money and don't want the smallest possible ff dslr.

Should I buy this lens, because the lens will be fast enough with the extenders or should I pick the f.4?

General advice on this: Don't buy a lens because you intend to regularly use it with extenders, tc are for occasional use and of course very useful for travel.

Or is the lens really to heavy and will stay at home too much?

Consider this purchase *very* carefully - the 70-200/2.8 is a no-brainer for pro photogs that make money from it, want the quickest & best depth of field / image quality combination and don't care about bulk or weight. As it has excellent quality it's also the gearhead's choice looking at test charts and 100% crop magnification.

But(!) for the rest of us don't underestimate the weight of this, due to the length it creates a lot of torsion on the wrist and needs good camera handling. As an internal zoom. it also has no "packing" zoomed in position and takes a lot of space in the bag, even one of the CR regulars who can afford just about any lens has recently added a shorter and lighter 70-300L for travel purposes.

My advice: Consider if you really need this "all in one" package, the alternative is for example to buy a longer 70-300L and a prime that is faster than f2.8 or maybe the 100L macro which is also f2.8 but gives you more shooting options.

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 01:44:44 PM »
Thank you all for your replies.
This afternoon I went to the shop and bought me a Mark5dIII.
Pfff, decision made.
At that time I had just ten minutes left for discussing the lens.
The very helpful assistant recommended the 16-35 and the 70-200 f.4.
The 2.8 felt heavy, but ad a good feel. The 16-35 well-built as well.
I was too excited buying the mark5dIII that I couldn't made another decision.
Well, maybe friday the next chance and if not, I will try to play with the camera with my 100mm L lens.
Thank you for your comments!

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 02:36:07 PM »
If you plan to take this on a trip I would recommend you rent the 70-200 f2.8 II and carry it around with the 5D Mark III all day and see how you feel at the end of the day.  I have this lens and love the images but it IS HEAVY to carry around all day on a trip. I am considering a 70-300 f/4-5.6L for travel it is 1 lb lighter and I don't shoot wide open as much for travel pictures. I can't imagine the image quality of the 70-300 will come close to the 70-200 but it is heavy to carry all day. If you plan to use an extender you might do better with a 70-300 it depends on what you plan to shoot. I sure you will get a lot more opinions.
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 03:03:32 PM »
Dear all,
How difficult life can be. This afternoon I want to make a decision. I will visit the shop and go for the Mark5dIII.
There is a little voice in me whispering why not the 6d? Well, I think go for the 5dIII because you neer know what to shoot in the future.
I've read so much about the 70-200 2.8 (new version). Heavy, but sharp. I know this will be my longest zoom and, visiting Scotland and Shetland, in the nearby feature I will buy extenders to give it a bit more reach.
Should I buy this lens, because the lens will be fast enough with the extenders or should I pick the f.4?
Or is the lens really to heavy and will stay at home too much?
Thank you for reading!

Simple. If you can afford the 5D3 and the 70-200mm L f/2.8 IS...yes, get them.

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 03:24:11 PM »

My advice: Consider if you really need this "all in one" package, the alternative is for example to buy a longer 70-300L and a prime that is faster than f2.8 or maybe the 100L macro which is also f2.8 but gives you more shooting options.

+1.  The 70-300L is a better travel lens than the 70-200 II.  If it will be your only lens in the focal range, then the 70-200 II is more versatile:  sports, portraits, etc.  -- it can pretty much do it all.  You'll just be at a weight and size disadvantage for travel.  It also comes down to how you intend to travel with your gear.  If you're carrying the telephoto in a backpack most of the time and you're using the 70-200 at select locations, then it won't make as much of a difference.

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 04:31:14 PM »
Dear all,
How difficult life can be. This afternoon I want to make a decision. I will visit the shop and go for the Mark5dIII.
There is a little voice in me whispering why not the 6d? Well, I think go for the 5dIII because you neer know what to shoot in the future.
I've read so much about the 70-200 2.8 (new version). Heavy, but sharp. I know this will be my longest zoom and, visiting Scotland and Shetland, in the nearby feature I will buy extenders to give it a bit more reach.
Should I buy this lens, because the lens will be fast enough with the extenders or should I pick the f.4?
Or is the lens really to heavy and will stay at home too much?
Thank you for reading!

Congrats on your toy :)

70-200 f2.8 IS II is Canon BEST zoom. Weight and size shouldn't be a huge issue compared to f4 or 70-300mm L. Your 5D III body is bigger than 6D, therefore, the 70-200 f2.8 IS ii feels better and more balance.

If budget is not issue, f2.8 version II is the way to go. IQ on current 70-300mm L & 100-400mm L is NOT considered as "Wow" yet.
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 04:34:09 PM »
If you are just going to be shooting at the long end all the time, I would recommend going for the 200mm F/2.8 II.  I do a lot of landscapes and when I do want to go wide, I often find myself using this lens to create panoramas because it is so sharp and has very little distortion.  It is as sharp or sharper then the amazing 70-200mm 2.8 IS II.   The downside is no IS but being light weight, it is less of a problem.  Auto focus is incredibly fast and accurate on my mkii, something I can't say about any of my other lesses really.  The bokeh it produces looks incredible.  The lens is also not a big white, so you can go a little more unnoticed.   Here are some shots with the lens to show how sharp it is.



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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 04:44:40 PM »
It was the Canon 70-200 f2.8 II lens THAT made me jump ship to Canon. And I am one very happy photographer.
I shoot it on a 7D, 1DIV and 5D3 and it is simply awesome. Buy once, buy right.

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 04:54:35 PM »
yes, you should buy that lens.
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2013, 05:01:46 PM »
This lens is freaking awesome.  Everybody likes to talk about the weight and it is pretty heavy, but honestly it balances out the 5dIII really well.  Just keep using it and your arms will get strong and then you can work your way up to a 600mm and it'll be nothin'
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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 05:02:17 PM »
Hi, the 70-200 + 5D3 is a killer combo but here is my opinion:

I have both the 70-200 2.8 II and the 70-300L + the 5D3. I rarely take the 70-200 with me if i'm going on a vacation or a trip. It is just too heavy for hiking/carrying around all day. The 70-300L is much better in this regard and as a bonus it's longer. If you add a 24-105 or 24-70 you won't need anything else for general purpose shooting.

The image quality is of course a bit better on the 70-200 (especially when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8) but mainly noticeable in the corners. For situations other than very dark dawn or dusk or pixel peeping test chart shots the 70-300L will deliver quite good enough image quality compared to the 70-200 and does so in a much more travel friendly package. The IS and AF are also on the same level in my opinion. You can also ad a 1.4x Kenko TC but I've found almost no difference just cropping the image.

Then again the 70-200 will be used exclusively when I'm shooting an event, a wedding, sports indoors or portraits. But these will be things I will go to shoot for one or a couple of days as the main thing and not a holiday or a trip.

So in my opinion it depends on your shooting needs. If you plan to use the lens as a general purpose tele on vacations and trips then go for the 70-300L and maybe buy a 50/85 f/1.8 or a macro to accompany it. But if you must have the best IQ in a zoom or need the low light cabapilities for event/indoor shooting and are prepared to carry the weight around if you occasionally use it as a general purpose lens then go for the 70-200.

Or you can do what I did and end up getting both :)

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Re: Should I choose the 70-200 2.8 II?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 05:02:17 PM »