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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2014, 05:51:28 AM »
I've owned 3 of them and fortunately replaced them. 50mm f1.8 and 1.4 and 100mm f2 replaced by 50mm f1.2L and 100mm f2.8L is.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2014, 07:03:29 AM »
I love the 70-200mm 2.8L I'm not even thinking about selling it!!!!  :) :) :) :) ;) ;) ;)
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2014, 08:12:24 AM »
Why would Canon make a slower version of the 50mm 1.4? In that respect its not a direct replacement and because its a prime larger F numbers are kind of expected.

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A new 20/2.8 would be interesting!

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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2014, 08:57:49 AM »
Happily...I do not own any of them!!!! ;D
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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2014, 09:56:50 AM »
A new 85mm f/2 IS is most needed.

As for the 50mm... a f/2 IS should replace the nifty fifty. A fast 50/1.4 non-L is a must. Canon should replace the current version (as the L version) without changing FL and aperture.

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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2014, 10:03:35 AM »
Why would Canon make a slower version of the 50mm 1.4? In that respect its not a direct replacement and because its a prime larger F numbers are kind of expected.

Bingo!

A new 20/2.8 would be interesting!

I've been praying for years for a fast ultra wide prime. 20mm f/1.8 ; 18 f/1.8 and i'll buy two of each !
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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2014, 10:28:07 AM »
Question: why does it seem that the apertures on proposed replacement lenses are getting smaller?

Canon EF 50 f/1.4 to Canon EF 50 f/1.8 IS &
Canon EF 85 f/1.8 to Canon EF 85 f/2.0 IS

It's as if those larger wide open apertures are undesirable but certainly the advancement in technology should make new lenses capable at those speeds?

What am I missing in this line of logic?
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2014, 10:28:07 AM »

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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2014, 11:10:46 AM »
Question: why does it seem that the apertures on proposed replacement lenses are getting smaller?

Canon EF 50 f/1.4 to Canon EF 50 f/1.8 IS &
Canon EF 85 f/1.8 to Canon EF 85 f/2.0 IS

It's as if those larger wide open apertures are undesirable but certainly the advancement in technology should make new lenses capable at those speeds?

What am I missing in this line of logic?
Answer: Cost.  Adding IS increases cost and the only way to keep these lenses affordable (they are part of the consumer line, not L line) is to reduce the aperture.  Canon has the technology to do about anything, but they have to balance aperture against things like image quality, size, weight, features (IS) and cost. 
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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2014, 11:13:03 AM »
135mm f/2 just missed it, maybe # 11 on the list -  1996 I think...still one the best lenses. Sharpness + super fast focusing!!
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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2014, 11:45:31 AM »
Question: why does it seem that the apertures on proposed replacement lenses are getting smaller?

Canon EF 50 f/1.4 to Canon EF 50 f/1.8 IS &
Canon EF 85 f/1.8 to Canon EF 85 f/2.0 IS

It's as if those larger wide open apertures are undesirable but certainly the advancement in technology should make new lenses capable at those speeds?

What am I missing in this line of logic?
Answer: Cost.  Adding IS increases cost and the only way to keep these lenses affordable (they are part of the consumer line, not L line) is to reduce the aperture.  Canon has the technology to do about anything, but they have to balance aperture against things like image quality, size, weight, features (IS) and cost.

To be fair, though, the two lenses mentioned here are both rumors.  The actual lenses and their respective apertures haven't been announced yet. 

As for the three non-L IS versions that have been announced, two of them kept the same aperture as their predecessors (24/2.8 and 35/2).  Both jumped in filter size (52mm to 58mm and 67mm, respectively), although Canon doesn't seem to be very concerned with filter sizes any more. 

Only the 28mm dropped from 1.8 to 2.8, which is a shame because a 1.8 with IS would have been a great "normal" lens on crop and would have made a real distinction between the new 24 and 28.  But Canon has kept the original 28/1.8 thus far, so apparently they weren't ready to kill that particular darling just yet, despite the sense it would have made.  Now they have two 28s in the lineup, which sell for about the same amount new, with the only spec differences being aperture and IS. 

Trying to make sense out of Canon lineup decisions is maddening.  For instance, why start putting IS in your wide angles rather than your telephotos???
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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2014, 11:49:00 AM »
Two of my favorite lenses are on the list; the 85 1.8 and the 70-200 2.8L . While the vII of the 70-200 has a bit better performance wide open neither lens is a slouch.

Whatever replaces them will never deliver IQ improvement that any client would notice. For me the real proof is that despite their vintage their resale value is still very high.

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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2014, 12:08:36 PM »
Trying to make sense out of Canon lineup decisions is maddening.  For instance, why start putting IS in your wide angles rather than your telephotos???


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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2014, 12:55:36 PM »
To be fair, though, the two lenses mentioned here are both rumors.  The actual lenses and their respective apertures haven't been announced yet. 

As for the three non-L IS versions that have been announced, two of them kept the same aperture as their predecessors (24/2.8 and 35/2).  Both jumped in filter size (52mm to 58mm and 67mm, respectively), although Canon doesn't seem to be very concerned with filter sizes any more. 

Only the 28mm dropped from 1.8 to 2.8, which is a shame because a 1.8 with IS would have been a great "normal" lens on crop and would have made a real distinction between the new 24 and 28.  But Canon has kept the original 28/1.8 thus far, so apparently they weren't ready to kill that particular darling just yet, despite the sense it would have made.  Now they have two 28s in the lineup, which sell for about the same amount new, with the only spec differences being aperture and IS. 

Trying to make sense out of Canon lineup decisions is maddening.  For instance, why start putting IS in your wide angles rather than your telephotos???

I think the decision about the 28mm lenses make sense. Canon has two options:

1. Kill both the f/1.8 & f/2.8 versions, and sell a 28mm f/1.8 IS USM. Canon sells only one lens.

2. Upgrade the f/2.8 w/ IS & USM, and keep selling the f/1.8. Canon sells two lenses, one having already covered it's expenses, allowing customers to choose between either a 1+ stop and IS & USM.

More importantly, the 2nd option leaves a wider margin to release an L, e.g. EF 28mm f/1.4 L USM. A lot of people would rather have IS over a fraction of a stop, especially if neither have weather sealing. Make the difference two stops, and things look a lot different.

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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2014, 01:19:03 PM »
To be fair, though, the two lenses mentioned here are both rumors.  The actual lenses and their respective apertures haven't been announced yet. 

As for the three non-L IS versions that have been announced, two of them kept the same aperture as their predecessors (24/2.8 and 35/2).  Both jumped in filter size (52mm to 58mm and 67mm, respectively), although Canon doesn't seem to be very concerned with filter sizes any more. 

Only the 28mm dropped from 1.8 to 2.8, which is a shame because a 1.8 with IS would have been a great "normal" lens on crop and would have made a real distinction between the new 24 and 28.  But Canon has kept the original 28/1.8 thus far, so apparently they weren't ready to kill that particular darling just yet, despite the sense it would have made.  Now they have two 28s in the lineup, which sell for about the same amount new, with the only spec differences being aperture and IS. 

Trying to make sense out of Canon lineup decisions is maddening.  For instance, why start putting IS in your wide angles rather than your telephotos???

The 28 f/2.8 IS replaced the 28 f/2.8 non-IS.  The 28 f/1.8 is still being sold; the 28 f/2.8 non-IS is not.

Also agree with Ellen that Canon is leaving the option open to release a fast 28mm lens.  The non-L IS lenses are 35 f/2, 28 f/2.8 and 24 f/2.8.  The Ls go 50 f/1.2, 35 f/1.4 and 24 f/1.4.  A 28 f/1.4 L would slot nicely between the 35 and 24Ls.  Although I'm not sure if there is a sufficiently large market for 28mm primes anymore.  It seems like the 24s are a lot more popular than the 28s.

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Re: The 10 Oldest Canon Lenses in Production
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2014, 01:47:12 PM »
You know it's slow in Canon land when people start making lists like this to pass the time!
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