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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #270 on: February 25, 2014, 09:16:02 PM »
Like resale value, we have to keep this "build-quality" issue in perspective. A lens that could take repeated falls off two-story buildings would be great, but not if it requires two sherpas to lug it around for you. For my purposes, traveling solo with minimum kit either on foot or motorbike, durability must be balanced against size and weight. After seeing the images posted on this thread, I'm convinced the Tammy's IQ is more than adequate for my needs. I think we can all agree that the price is an exceptional value. And now with wickidwombat's comparing the build-quality to that of the Canon 100L--a lens I own, love and have carried over hill and dale without a hitch--I'm convinced that the Tammy has the right IQ, AF, size, weight and build-quality to go ahead and place my order. I'll keep it tethered to me, as AlanF and I discussed in this thread, but expect it to last through many a trip.

Thanks to the early adopters who bought this lens and shared their experiences here!

But what about weather sealing?  I didn't think the Tamron had it.  If it doesn't, and you guys are talking about buying one to carry off into the bush...then I wonder if the weather sealing argument others have for other lenses, is just an excuse to argue?  Not saying it's not nice to have, but how is it ok for this Tamron to not have it, but not ok for the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "art" to not have it?

Anyway, if there's info somewhere that there actually is weather sealing, I don't see it.

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« Reply #270 on: February 25, 2014, 09:16:02 PM »

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« Reply #271 on: February 25, 2014, 10:18:02 PM »
The Tamron looks awesome and is certainly a great deal.... I am honestly tempted!

But I did a bit of a test last night with my currently set-up (70-200 + 2xtc). I do most of my wildlife photography (for fun) in the dusk/dawn time, and f/8 for good IQ would not cut it...  hell, f/5.6 is a struggle. I find i use my 70-200 native at 2.8 a lot because the of the speed.

Weather sealing and the build quality of the lens are also important as it is India; it is very dusty and when it rains, IT RAINS!

I would choose the Tamron if most of my wildlife was taking in good light, but it is not! I can't afford the 300 right now, but i am saving, and for me I think it is worth the wait! :)

Here is an example... a shot taken at 200mm f/2.8 iso 1600 1/200. some extra reach at 2.8 would have been nice! Yes i know i can stop down and bunk the ISO, but i like the choice not to. I am also a shaky person, so crazy low shutter speeds kill me with still subject let alone a moving one! :)

ps - I would like to thank everyone on here for their in-hands review of this lens and comparison to the 300 combo. It has really helped me make up my mind...  I just need to sway the wife now! :)
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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #272 on: February 26, 2014, 12:44:18 AM »
Like resale value, we have to keep this "build-quality" issue in perspective. A lens that could take repeated falls off two-story buildings would be great, but not if it requires two sherpas to lug it around for you. For my purposes, traveling solo with minimum kit either on foot or motorbike, durability must be balanced against size and weight. After seeing the images posted on this thread, I'm convinced the Tammy's IQ is more than adequate for my needs. I think we can all agree that the price is an exceptional value. And now with wickidwombat's comparing the build-quality to that of the Canon 100L--a lens I own, love and have carried over hill and dale without a hitch--I'm convinced that the Tammy has the right IQ, AF, size, weight and build-quality to go ahead and place my order. I'll keep it tethered to me, as AlanF and I discussed in this thread, but expect it to last through many a trip.

Thanks to the early adopters who bought this lens and shared their experiences here!

But what about weather sealing?  I didn't think the Tamron had it.  If it doesn't, and you guys are talking about buying one to carry off into the bush...then I wonder if the weather sealing argument others have for other lenses, is just an excuse to argue?  Not saying it's not nice to have, but how is it ok for this Tamron to not have it, but not ok for the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "art" to not have it?q

Anyway, if there's info somewhere that there actually is weather sealing, I don't see it.

It's moisture resistant - http://www.tamron.eu/uk/lenses/overview/single/product/sp-150-600mm-f5-63-vc-usd-8.html?tx_keproducts_pi6[cam]=&tx_keproducts_pi6[vc]=false&tx_keproducts_pi6[sp]=false
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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #273 on: February 26, 2014, 01:51:56 AM »
The Tamron looks awesome and is certainly a great deal.... I am honestly tempted!

But I did a bit of a test last night with my currently set-up (70-200 + 2xtc). I do most of my wildlife photography (for fun) in the dusk/dawn time, and f/8 for good IQ would not cut it...  hell, f/5.6 is a struggle. I find i use my 70-200 native at 2.8 a lot because the of the speed.

Weather sealing and the build quality of the lens are also important as it is India; it is very dusty and when it rains, IT RAINS!

I would choose the Tamron if most of my wildlife was taking in good light, but it is not! I can't afford the 300 right now, but i am saving, and for me I think it is worth the wait! :)

Here is an example... a shot taken at 200mm f/2.8 iso 1600 1/200. some extra reach at 2.8 would have been nice! Yes i know i can stop down and bunk the ISO, but i like the choice not to. I am also a shaky person, so crazy low shutter speeds kill me with still subject let alone a moving one! :)

ps - I would like to thank everyone on here for their in-hands review of this lens and comparison to the 300 combo. It has really helped me make up my mind...  I just need to sway the wife now! :)

Nice image and I'd be shaking and peeing my pants if I was there with that tiger!! 

In my opinion you should just sell the 70-200 right now and put that down on a 300 f/2.8...at least if this type of wildlife photography in low light is mostly what you do.  However if most of what you do is people portraiture or something, then I can understand why you need the 70-200.

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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #274 on: February 26, 2014, 01:53:32 AM »
Like resale value, we have to keep this "build-quality" issue in perspective. A lens that could take repeated falls off two-story buildings would be great, but not if it requires two sherpas to lug it around for you. For my purposes, traveling solo with minimum kit either on foot or motorbike, durability must be balanced against size and weight. After seeing the images posted on this thread, I'm convinced the Tammy's IQ is more than adequate for my needs. I think we can all agree that the price is an exceptional value. And now with wickidwombat's comparing the build-quality to that of the Canon 100L--a lens I own, love and have carried over hill and dale without a hitch--I'm convinced that the Tammy has the right IQ, AF, size, weight and build-quality to go ahead and place my order. I'll keep it tethered to me, as AlanF and I discussed in this thread, but expect it to last through many a trip.

Thanks to the early adopters who bought this lens and shared their experiences here!

But what about weather sealing?  I didn't think the Tamron had it.  If it doesn't, and you guys are talking about buying one to carry off into the bush...then I wonder if the weather sealing argument others have for other lenses, is just an excuse to argue?  Not saying it's not nice to have, but how is it ok for this Tamron to not have it, but not ok for the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "art" to not have it?q

Anyway, if there's info somewhere that there actually is weather sealing, I don't see it.

It's moisture resistant - http://www.tamron.eu/uk/lenses/overview/single/product/sp-150-600mm-f5-63-vc-usd-8.html?tx_keproducts_pi6[cam]=&tx_keproducts_pi6[vc]=false&tx_keproducts_pi6[sp]=false

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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #275 on: February 26, 2014, 03:06:00 AM »
Nice image and I'd be shaking and peeing my pants if I was there with that tiger!! 

In my opinion you should just sell the 70-200 right now and put that down on a 300 f/2.8...at least if this type of wildlife photography in low light is mostly what you do.  However if most of what you do is people portraiture or something, then I can understand why you need the 70-200.

Thanks....  I won't be selling my 70-200, i use it tooooo much for portraits and other things too! I'm just going to content myself with it + a 2xtcIII until funds (and the wife) are more agreeable! :) I can certainly see the appeal of the tamron!
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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #276 on: February 26, 2014, 03:29:38 AM »


Weather sealing and the build quality of the lens are also important as it is India; it is very dusty and when it rains, IT RAINS!



I'm afraid you're wrongly intending "weather sealing", "weather resistance" and similar expressions as "waterproof".


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« Reply #277 on: February 26, 2014, 03:55:05 AM »
Weather sealing and the build quality of the lens are also important as it is India; it is very dusty and when it rains, IT RAINS!

I'm afraid you're wrongly intending "weather sealing", "weather resistance" and similar expressions as "waterproof".

http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lens.jpg

hahaha...  I think this lens could stand the monsoon longer enough for me to find shelter! :)
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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #278 on: February 27, 2014, 03:30:38 AM »
Nice image and I'd be shaking and peeing my pants if I was there with that tiger!! 

In my opinion you should just sell the 70-200 right now and put that down on a 300 f/2.8...at least if this type of wildlife photography in low light is mostly what you do.  However if most of what you do is people portraiture or something, then I can understand why you need the 70-200.

Thanks....  I won't be selling my 70-200, i use it tooooo much for portraits and other things too! I'm just going to content myself with it + a 2xtcIII until funds (and the wife) are more agreeable! :) I can certainly see the appeal of the tamron!

Do wives get more agreeable over time?  Or is it that you don't realize, that it is you who have adjusted your desires to be more in agreement with her wishes as the years go by?  I'm not married, but from what I know of them...well, I better hold my tongue on this!

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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #279 on: February 27, 2014, 09:28:05 AM »
Nice image and I'd be shaking and peeing my pants if I was there with that tiger!! 

In my opinion you should just sell the 70-200 right now and put that down on a 300 f/2.8...at least if this type of wildlife photography in low light is mostly what you do.  However if most of what you do is people portraiture or something, then I can understand why you need the 70-200.

Thanks....  I won't be selling my 70-200, i use it tooooo much for portraits and other things too! I'm just going to content myself with it + a 2xtcIII until funds (and the wife) are more agreeable! :) I can certainly see the appeal of the tamron!

Do wives get more agreeable over time?  Or is it that you don't realize, that it is you who have adjusted your desires to be more in agreement with her wishes as the years go by?  I'm not married, but from what I know of them...well, I better hold my tongue on this!
Carl, you just learn to be discrete and how to justify your purchases - you know like I really need the 85 f/1.2 II to make you look all the more beautiful and to make all of your friends jealous :)  Also, you always have to get a deal that's so good you'd be a fool not to buy it - Honey, when am I ever going to get 10% off a "big white" lens?  I have to buy it.

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Re: Shallow Review: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC vs 300mm/2.8 II +2xTC III
« Reply #280 on: February 27, 2014, 09:52:58 AM »
The Tamron looks awesome and is certainly a great deal.... I am honestly tempted!

But I did a bit of a test last night with my currently set-up (70-200 + 2xtc). I do most of my wildlife photography (for fun) in the dusk/dawn time, and f/8 for good IQ would not cut it...  hell, f/5.6 is a struggle. I find i use my 70-200 native at 2.8 a lot because the of the speed.

Weather sealing and the build quality of the lens are also important as it is India; it is very dusty and when it rains, IT RAINS!

I would choose the Tamron if most of my wildlife was taking in good light, but it is not! I can't afford the 300 right now, but i am saving, and for me I think it is worth the wait! :)

Here is an example... a shot taken at 200mm f/2.8 iso 1600 1/200. some extra reach at 2.8 would have been nice! Yes i know i can stop down and bunk the ISO, but i like the choice not to. I am also a shaky person, so crazy low shutter speeds kill me with still subject let alone a moving one! :)

ps - I would like to thank everyone on here for their in-hands review of this lens and comparison to the 300 combo. It has really helped me make up my mind...  I just need to sway the wife now! :)

As an owner of 300mm f2.8 IS II for few weeks, I would consider the 300mm as a "PERFECT" lens in my own world. I carried this lens around the zoo good 4-5hrs and there wasn't weight issue at all(I wish I can say that to my 400mm f2.8 IS II). AF speed is SUPER fast and IQ is just AMAZING. Although, I haven't try with x1.4 TC III yet, but I would expect IQ be better then tammy at any range.(not to mention you getting f4 @ 420mm). Why I said that? well, my 400mm f2.8 IS II works extremly well with x1.4 TC III ;)

However, the Tammy seems to be a great lens too - ZOOM & COST :)
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« Reply #281 on: February 27, 2014, 10:42:22 AM »
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« Reply #282 on: February 27, 2014, 10:54:30 AM »
Do wives get more agreeable over time?  Or is it that you don't realize, that it is you who have adjusted your desires to be more in agreement with her wishes as the years go by?  I'm not married, but from what I know of them...well, I better hold my tongue on this!

Carl...  I'm fairly new at the whole marriage thing (less than 2 years), but I have already 'figured out' (small sample size) a couple of important points. The main one being my priorities and her will not always align... the key is to get them to align! 6k on a lens is obscene to someone who is not into photography, i need to illustrate the advantages more...  even if an advantage is to get me to stop moaning about it!

in all fairness, i blame my wife for my current lens desires...  in the last 18 months SHE has bought and surprised me with a 5DIII kit, 70-200 IS II, a 24L II, and a 17-40L. She got me hooked on the good stuff! But even if it is no-go...  i'm still significantly better off :D 
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« Reply #283 on: February 27, 2014, 11:00:59 AM »
in the last 18 months SHE has bought and surprised me with a 5DIII kit, 70-200 IS II, a 24L II, and a 17-40L.
You are a lucky man 8)

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« Reply #284 on: February 27, 2014, 11:52:18 AM »
in the last 18 months SHE has bought and surprised me with a 5DIII kit, 70-200 IS II, a 24L II, and a 17-40L.
You are a lucky man 8)

I know it! ;)
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