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Here's a real newbie question...

After reading more than a few threads here I've seen that one of the same lenses keeps coming up in conversation - Either one of the EF 24-70mm's...

Is this the MUST HAVE lens for everyone?
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 07:26:59 PM »
Well, those 2 lenses are targeted at different markets.

The 24-70 f/4 is targeted at the lower end of the market where IS (shooting at slow shutter speeds or have shaky hands) and wants closeup/short 'macro' operation with fairly good image quality, but not top end.

The 24-70 f/2.8 v2 is targeted at the high end professional that needs to be able to gather as much light as possible to keep shutter speeds up, build extremely tough, and top end image quality (especially sharpness, this lens is super sharp wide open across pretty much the whole zoom range). And it has a price commensurate with it's qualities.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 07:53:10 PM »
Well, those 2 lenses are targeted at different markets.

The 24-70 f/4 is targeted at the lower end of the market where IS (shooting at slow shutter speeds or have shaky hands) and wants closeup/short 'macro' operation with fairly good image quality, but not top end.

The 24-70 f/2.8 v2 is targeted at the high end professional that needs to be able to gather as much light as possible to keep shutter speeds up, build extremely tough, and top end image quality (especially sharpness, this lens is super sharp wide open across pretty much the whole zoom range). And it has a price commensurate with it's qualities.

Thank you for that really good break-down. Do you have either of them or what's your preference?
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 07:57:24 PM »
24-70 f2.8 II for now, until f2.8 IS releases

On top of that, another MUST have lens is 70-200 f2.8 IS II.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2014, 08:09:02 PM »
Well, those 2 lenses are targeted at different markets.

The 24-70 f/4 is targeted at the lower end of the market where IS (shooting at slow shutter speeds or have shaky hands) and wants closeup/short 'macro' operation with fairly good image quality, but not top end.

The 24-70 f/2.8 v2 is targeted at the high end professional that needs to be able to gather as much light as possible to keep shutter speeds up, build extremely tough, and top end image quality (especially sharpness, this lens is super sharp wide open across pretty much the whole zoom range). And it has a price commensurate with it's qualities.

Thank you for that really good break-down. Do you have either of them or what's your preference?

I've already got the 24-105 f/4L so I don't see a need for the 24-70 f/4L IS for me, although from what I understand it's a bit sharper and does have that close-up mode, although I'd lose 35mm worth of reach.

I'd really love to get the 24-70 f/2.8L v2, and eventually I will, but it's rather expensive for me and I see more of a need for the 70-200 f/2.8L IS v2 first for me. And perhaps the new Tamron 150-600mm...so many lenses, so little money...
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 01:54:04 PM »
Nope.  Much more useful for FF.  The range is a bit long and is expensive for APS-C.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 08:00:18 PM »
24-70 f2.8 II for now, until f2.8 IS releases

On top of that, another MUST have lens is 70-200 f2.8 IS II.

Pulled the trigger on the 70-200mkii last year when they had the double dip. I came very close to getting the 24-70 2.8 mkii when they had the same offer. I held back because of the "clicking while zooming issue". So now, i'm still stuck with my 24-105L.  Maybe the 24-70 2.8 IS is the one destined for me  ::)
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 03:14:37 AM »
The 24-70 f/2.8 mkii is the best. Any other choice is generally about price consideration.

Like the 70-200, you can shoot at f2.8 and pretty much have everything in focus. The lens is about 2 years old and will serve you for at least the next 8-10.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 08:44:48 AM »
Here's a real newbie question...

After reading more than a few threads here I've seen that one of the same lenses keeps coming up in conversation - Either one of the EF 24-70mm's...

Is this the MUST HAVE lens for everyone?

For everyone?  No.  The 24-70 (and 24-105) are general purpose zooms for full frame - they cover wide angle, normal, and short telephoto focal lengths. Very useful range for general/walkaround shooting.

On APS-C, 24-xx doesn't include wide angle, making it much less useful, IMO.  The EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS and 15-85/3.5-5.6 IS are much better options on crop bodies.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 10:29:16 AM »
Here's a real newbie question...

After reading more than a few threads here I've seen that one of the same lenses keeps coming up in conversation - Either one of the EF 24-70mm's...

Is this the MUST HAVE lens for everyone?

For everyone?  No.  The 24-70 (and 24-105) are general purpose zooms for full frame - they cover wide angle, normal, and short telephoto focal lengths. Very useful range for general/walkaround shooting.

On APS-C, 24-xx doesn't include wide angle, making it much less useful, IMO.  The EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS and 15-85/3.5-5.6 IS are much better options on crop bodies.

I was using 24-70 on APS-C (60D) for about a year and I was very happy with results. In general, there were some situations where I missed wide angle of 15-85, but for me the constant aperture and image quality improvements over 15-85 were more important (so maybe 17-55 would be better choice for crop).
From last thursday I'm happy owner of 5D mk III and now I'm realizing true potential of my 24-70 mk II - it's incredible lens.
As others already mentioned, another must have lens is 70-200 f/2.8 IS - I fell in love with that lens on first try, it will be my next upgrage, but right now I have to save up (and enjoy 100L and 24-70 mkII on FF :))) )
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 11:18:14 PM »
if youre going to choose between the two, the main thing you want to think about is if you need 2.8.  personally, i do.

i dont always shoot that open, but i have the option to if need be - which is very important to me.  far more important than having IS.

as for the 24-70 range - you just have to decide how often you're going to use a 24-70 lens.  if you generally shoot wide or tight and you have lenses to cover those focal ranges, than a 50mm may be a good choice for medium range shots.

i will say the overall quality of the 24-70 2.8 is pretty impressive and i really enjoy using this lens when the occasion calls for it.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2014, 01:30:06 PM »
I would try them both out if you can.  I was all set to get the 24-70 f4 IS over the 24-70 f2.8 II.  But when I tried them on a 6D and 5DIII, the shorter length of the F4 IS meant that the zoom ring was closer to the mount.  So, when I used my left hand to zoom, my left hand would sometimes hit my camera-holding right hand.  It's not as much of an issue with the f2.8 because the zoom ring is wider and further away from the mount.  And I don't think I have large hands.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2014, 01:44:02 PM »
I love my 24-70 f2.8 II  one of the best Lens I own !!

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2014, 01:54:21 PM »
My 24-70 and my 24-105mmL are great for full frame bodies, but not nearly wide enough for crop bodies.
The 17-55mm IS is a winner for Crop bodies followed by the 15-85mm.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2014, 02:44:28 PM »
Here's a real newbie question...

After reading more than a few threads here I've seen that one of the same lenses keeps coming up in conversation - Either one of the EF 24-70mm's...

Is this the MUST HAVE lens for everyone?

No, not necessarily.  There are some folks out there who generally prefer prime lenses in that focal length range for DSLRs (myself included) for various reasons (DOF, low light, size/weight, cost, etc.).  Come to think of it, the only zoom lens I own is the 70-200 II... might have to fix that eventually ;)
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
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