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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 01:21:36 AM »
...be worth it as well if they can maintain a constant f/4.

You realize how nutty that request is?  It would be bigger (and more expensive) than the 200-400/4.

Not if it's an EF-S L   8)
The smaller imaging circle doesn't reduce the physical size of the lens when the angle of view is narrower than 45 degrees (longer than 50mm in FF terms).

A 400/4 lens requires an entrance pupil that's exactly 100mm in diameter. That means the front element cannot be any smaller than 100mm, regardless of the imaging circle size. Add in the complexities of a zoom and IS, and you've got a full size 200-400.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2014, 01:29:26 AM »
...be worth it as well if they can maintain a constant f/4.

You realize how nutty that request is?  It would be bigger (and more expensive) than the 200-400/4.

Not if it's an EF-S L   8)

(Grr I was typing the same response at the same time. Oh well)

Lens specifications essentially list the physical dimensions of the lens. The reason people say "crop sensor lenses are awesome because they're so small" is that they're pretending that the crop factor is the same as using a longer lens on a larger sensor.
The kind of lens you're thinking of is the EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM.
Of course making that in a constant f4 design doesn't gain you anything compared to using a 100-400f5.6 on full frame, and more likely you lose performance overall.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2014, 03:05:17 AM »
So Canon is going to release 2 unicorns at Photokina. At the end of summer for us in the Northern Hemisphere, means
poor timing. I will get to read the reviews with envy. What I have will have to serve my needs till the prices reach a
level that my Banker can accept. Oh Well!
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2014, 03:32:25 AM »
...be worth it as well if they can maintain a constant f/4.

You realize how nutty that request is?  It would be bigger (and more expensive) than the 200-400/4.

Ummm, Oooook, I was being.....facetious ?? attempting humour ?? it's an Aussie thing.

I understand on CR that sometimes, as in this case, doesn't work, I'll endeavour in future to be more serious, more in line with all the other very serious viewpoints that get Posted on CR from time to time, in among the more serious viewpoints, naturally.

And on a more semi serious note, a 100-400f/4 Lens with the IQ of the 200-400f/4, shouldn't be any larger, or more expensive than the attached, seems like a Bargain at $27k, well, except for the cost of the 2 Sherpas you would need to cart the thing around for you.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2014, 04:33:43 AM »
Yay!  new 100-400!   :)

Yay! 7D 2!  :)

Booo! Photokina?  September?  Really?

Price?  Whatever. It'll be expensive in the UK and cheap in the USA, probably $ for £, but might help to knock the price of the existing one down a bit.

I appreciate that this might be a bit hemisphereist, but September is almost winter up here in the northern hemisphere.  A release before then would be sooo much better  :(

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2014, 04:51:05 AM »
I will believe it when I see it ...

Still, what is the attraction of releasing it at Photokina? A lot of tech releases have moved away from the show schedule. I would think that June would be the optimal date to release a 7D2+100-400, and sell it to every single summer-holiday-safari goer in the world.
+1 on both. We read about the 100-400 replacement for years. And indeed it would be better if it was released before the summer. But it is a mythical lens  ;D (and it will be released before ... some summer anyway, we just don't know which summer)
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2014, 04:53:45 AM »
Can a substitute change the focal distances?  A 150-500mm would be even better than a 100-400mm, since there is a 150-600mm from Tamron and people that have a FF really need reach  under $7.000;D

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2014, 04:54:01 AM »
If it can match or outperform the 400mm f/5.6 at the 400mm end, I may just convert.

Let's hope that it doesn't hit the $3000 mark though :-/
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2014, 04:56:50 AM »
...be worth it as well if they can maintain a constant f/4.

You realize how nutty that request is?  It would be bigger (and more expensive) than the 200-400/4.

Ummm, Oooook, I was being.....facetious ?? attempting humour ?? it's an Aussie thing.

I understand on CR that sometimes, as in this case, doesn't work, I'll endeavour in future to be more serious, more in line with all the other very serious viewpoints that get Posted on CR from time to time, in among the more serious viewpoints, naturally.

And on a more semi serious note, a 100-400f/4 Lens with the IQ of the 200-400f/4, shouldn't be any larger, or more expensive than the attached, seems like a Bargain at $27k, well, except for the cost of the 2 Sherpas you would need to cart the thing around for you.

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2014, 05:34:41 AM »
so just in time to photograph a snowman riding an unicorn.

Snowmen don't ride unicorns.  They fly.
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2014, 05:46:47 AM »
so just in time to photograph a snowman riding an unicorn.

Snowmen don't ride unicorns.  They fly.


sownmen neither fly or ride.. they have no feet nor wings.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2014, 05:48:44 AM »
Since we're all throwing out guess, I estimate release price of about $2800 AUS (including the "screw you down under tax") with image quality equal to about a 70-200 II IS ... which is still pretty damn sharp even if it doesn't technically match a super telephoto on paper.
Then settling down to low $2000's.
Hurry up Canon and do something with your sensors! :P

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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2014, 06:29:09 AM »
So $3200 at teds hey dufflover haha

I think quality will be very similar to the 70-300L and $3000 launch dropping to $2500 after a while

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2014, 06:31:24 AM »
If it is an extender zoom like the new Nikon that will not be good news - prone to knock damage causing optics misalignment.

The Canon 100-400 is a very strong robust design. Keep that or give us an internal focus optic ie a scaled up version of the 70-200 please Mr Canon.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2014, 06:32:32 AM »
I will believe it when I see it ...

Still, what is the attraction of releasing it at Photokina? A lot of tech releases have moved away from the show schedule. I would think that June would be the optimal date to release a 7D2+100-400, and sell it to every single summer-holiday-safari goer in the world.

Unfortunately, Canon's production isn't as market friendly as that. Otherwise, the 5DIII would have been released before the wedding season started....but it didn't and that was that. This lens, like giving birth to a baby will be out when it's good and ready and there is nothing we can do about it other than wait, hope and dream. In the mean time...there are always ducks to photograph.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2014, 06:32:32 AM »