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New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« on: June 19, 2014, 09:10:07 AM »
We’re told to definitely expect new sensor technology to be introduced in the Canon EOS 7D Mark II. This tech will be used in all forthcoming Canon DSLRs. What is it? We’re not 100% sure yet, though we’re told it’s definitely not a foveon type technology that we’ve previously seen in patents.

This may be one of Canon’s best kept secrets as it’s apparently going to be more than an “evolutionary” technology.

We’re filtering through a lot of emails about this new sensor tech and we’re not sure what’s true and what isn’t.

More to come… We’re not putting a [CR3] on this until we know what the new tech is.

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New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 09:12:41 AM »
and this explains the wait and delays far better than conspiracy theories.....
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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2014, 09:28:16 AM »
Sooner the better.  We have had a long wait

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2014, 09:28:32 AM »
Maybe it's compatibility with DPP 4.

Assuming it's a Bayer sensor with multiple pixels under each microlens (like the 70D), there's not a lot they can do to improve sensor performance that's outside the realm of read noise.  There are several ways to attack that one, and some of them involve doing clever things with the multiple pixels per microlens, such as reading out each one at a different ISO and then combining them, sort of like what Magic Lantern has done to increase DR.

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2014, 09:47:46 AM »
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This may be one of Canon’s best kept secrets as it’s apparently going to be more than an “evolutionary” technology.

Does anyone have an example of what Canon call revolutionary?

IS, USM, video in a full-frame dSLR, and dual-pixel technology come to mind.

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2014, 09:51:34 AM »
Does anyone have an example of what Canon call revolutionary?
Yes.  "Canon has unveiled its most advanced PowerShot compact camera ever – the revolutionary 14.3 Megapixel PowerShot G1 X..."  (link)

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 09:55:17 AM »
Wow, this sounds exciting. Perhaps our five-year wait will actually turn out to have been worth it.

Right now I'll just about take anything though ... as long as it isn't 18 megapixels  ;)

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2014, 09:55:17 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2014, 09:55:54 AM »
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Does anyone have an example of what Canon call revolutionary?
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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2014, 09:56:28 AM »
Does anyone have an example of what Canon call revolutionary?
Yes.  "Canon has unveiled its most advanced PowerShot compact camera ever – the revolutionary 14.3 Megapixel PowerShot G1 X..."  (link)

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it depends ... revolutionary for who, 14MPx selfies could be revolutionary for half of FB users  ;D

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2014, 09:56:46 AM »
I would be happy if this new sensor addresses the shadow noise problem at low ISO settings like 100 & 160.

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2014, 09:57:02 AM »
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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2014, 10:07:04 AM »
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This may be one of Canon’s best kept secrets as it’s apparently going to be more than an “evolutionary” technology.

Does anyone have an example of what Canon call revolutionary?

IS, USM, video in a full-frame dSLR, and dual-pixel technology come to mind.

Their early 45-point AF sensor and ring USM lenses offered revolutionary and unrivalled AF performance for nearly a decade before Nikon finally came on board with their 51-point AF sensor in the D3.

Other examples of Canon's glorious past can be found here:
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/reviews/20-years-of-canon-eos.aspx

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2014, 10:08:39 AM »
I would be happy if this new sensor addresses the shadow noise problem at low ISO settings like 100 & 160.

Crossing my fingers... Not because I need to recover shadow details by 4 stops... Mostly for bragging rights... :D

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2014, 10:08:39 AM »

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2014, 10:18:40 AM »
For some reason I doubt it will be a new 22nm production process and peltier cooled sensor  ;D
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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2014, 10:18:45 AM »
Putting a few things together into PURE speculation...

It was mentioned before that the viewfinder would be pretty big - as big as the 5DIII.  I pointed out that would make it pretty dim.

What if the "revolutionary sensor technology" is quad-pixel, for a cross-type AF sensor under every pixel, and that it works so well with a new processor that there's no need for a separate PDAF module in the bottom of the mirror box?  That would enable the main mirror to be "fully silvered" instead of "partially silvered" which would mean a brighter viewfinder even at the same size.

I kind of doubt it, but it's a bit fun to speculate.

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Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2014, 10:18:45 AM »