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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« Reply #420 on: October 16, 2013, 01:43:12 PM »

Yes.

Here is a test shot with a 300mm f2.8 IS at close to MFD, one eye (eyebrow) in focus, totally obliterated busy background.

PDB; is the lady you use as a model for demonstration purposes getting younger and prettier as time goes on, or are you posting sequentially older pictures ?  ;)

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« Reply #420 on: October 16, 2013, 01:43:12 PM »

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« Reply #421 on: October 16, 2013, 01:50:34 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression :
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« Reply #422 on: October 16, 2013, 01:57:35 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression

That is not compression, it is perspective!

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« Reply #423 on: October 16, 2013, 02:03:19 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression :


Trust you were out of slapping distance when you chose FL shorter than 50mm.  ;D
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« Reply #424 on: October 16, 2013, 02:04:54 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression
That is not compression, it is perspective!

+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.

PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I.  I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.   ;)

See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« Reply #425 on: October 16, 2013, 02:11:34 PM »
For all of you wondering about compression
That is not compression, it is perspective!

+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.

PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I.  I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.   ;)

See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165

Thanks...  Never read that post because I became a member in 2013.

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« Reply #426 on: October 17, 2013, 06:26:17 AM »
For all of you wondering about compression :

Nice comparison ... forgetting the compression vs perspective debate, I like the way you did this comparison ... it gives a nice one glance view of what to expect from all those focal lengths, if one were to frame them all the same way. Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #427 on: October 17, 2013, 08:16:15 AM »
For all of you wondering about compression
Nice comparison ... forgetting the compression vs perspective debate, I like the way you did this comparison ... it gives a nice one glance view of what to expect from all those focal lengths, if one were to frame them all the same way. Thanks for sharing.

I've seen this collage in many places, I'm not sure the member who posted it here is the maker (and the image link points to a Nikon forum).
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« Reply #428 on: October 17, 2013, 08:45:39 AM »
For all of you wondering about compression
That is not compression, it is perspective!

+1 - it's due to the fact that the camera-to-subject distance was changed to maintain framing, and has nothing to do with the focal length of the lens.

PBD has posted visual examples of this before, as have I.  I prefer mine, mainly because I was able to imbibe the subjects after the test.   ;)

See: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=11368.msg205165#msg205165

I remember that thread well. Personally I thought PBD's example was amusing because the lady in the comparison had either been posing for far too long or had been asked to do this type of thing far too many times before. It was of course also informative as was yours, where it showed a good example of wiki getting it wrong, or at least being misleading, a warning to those who use wiki as a ready reference for posing as an experienced expert on the web.

The 'compression' seen in perspective can be confusing photographically. PBD says compression is an illusion, but it's worth remembering that the 'illusion' is what we see.

Anyone with a zoom can do a quick test for themselves. Using a zoom that goes from wide angle to telephoto - say the 24-105, take a shot of a scene with objects of some sort at different distances away from you at 24mm. Then from exactly the same position take the same shot at 105mm. Download both images, then crop centre of the 24 mil shot to exactly the same as 105 and enlarge it to the same. It will be identical to the original 105 mil shot in perspective despite the fact that on the 24mm shot the perspective seems to be pulling apart - an illusion.

Incidentally the 24-105 is so well corrected the two images are nearly identical in that you can virtually overlay them.

Back on track with the 135L, the head shots show that once you are over a certain distance from the model there is little flattering change to the perspective of the face, and that flattering distance starts with the 135mm.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« Reply #429 on: October 17, 2013, 08:48:57 AM »
For all of you wondering about compression
Nice comparison ... forgetting the compression vs perspective debate, I like the way you did this comparison ... it gives a nice one glance view of what to expect from all those focal lengths, if one were to frame them all the same way. Thanks for sharing.

I've seen this collage in many places, I'm not sure the member who posted it here is the maker (and the image link points to a Nikon forum).
I see. Still a very nice comparison for reference.
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L USM
« Reply #430 on: October 17, 2013, 08:50:11 AM »
For all of you wondering about compression
Nice comparison ... forgetting the compression vs perspective debate, I like the way you did this comparison ... it gives a nice one glance view of what to expect from all those focal lengths, if one were to frame them all the same way. Thanks for sharing.

I've seen this collage in many places, I'm not sure the member who posted it here is the maker (and the image link points to a Nikon forum).
They were originally shot by Stephen Eastwood, well his site is the first place I saw them and I have seen him credited with them in several places. Also it is one of his models and his lighting style, interestingly he uses Canon Speedlites very extensively and I often wondered why he never became the Canon Joe McNally.

http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/Tutorials_Lens_Perspective.htm
http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/lensdistortion/strippage.htm

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« Reply #431 on: October 17, 2013, 09:12:44 AM »

I remember that thread well. Personally I thought PBD's example was amusing because the lady in the comparison had either been posing for far too long or had been asked to do this type of thing far too many times before. It was of course also informative as was yours, where it showed a good example of wiki getting it wrong, or at least being misleading, a warning to those who use wiki as a ready reference for posing as an experienced expert on the web.

The 'compression' seen in perspective can be confusing photographically. PBD says compression is an illusion, but it's worth remembering that the 'illusion' is what we see.

Anyone with a zoom can do a quick test for themselves. Using a zoom that goes from wide angle to telephoto - say the 24-105, take a shot of a scene with objects of some sort at different distances away from you at 24mm. Then from exactly the same position take the same shot at 105mm. Download both images, then crop centre of the 24 mil shot to exactly the same as 105 and enlarge it to the same. It will be identical to the original 105 mil shot in perspective despite the fact that on the 24mm shot the perspective seems to be pulling apart - an illusion.

Incidentally the 24-105 is so well corrected the two images are nearly identical in that you can virtually overlay them.

Back on track with the 135L, the head shots show that once you are over a certain distance from the model there is little flattering change to the perspective of the face, and that flattering distance starts with the 135mm.

Sporgon,

You nail it with your third paragraph, and that is all I am ever really trying to point out, staying in the same place and changing lenses (or zooming) won't change "compression", and that is the point so many miss, they believe that at 105 thy are creating more "compression" than at 24. Lenses don't "compress", position creates perspective.

(P.S. She had been on the phone to her mum for an hour, it was the phone call rather than the "modelling" that created the feel of the shot  ;D  )

P.P.S. I will probably take a lead from Neuro next time and use something I can drink afterwards for "demonstration" purposes!

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« Reply #432 on: October 17, 2013, 09:52:18 AM »
Just finally purchased this lens last night after reading extensive reviews. I am excited to start shooting this lens.

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« Reply #433 on: October 18, 2013, 08:15:30 PM »
Just finally purchased this lens last night after reading extensive reviews. I am excited to start shooting this lens.

Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.

Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.

I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ ::) :) ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #434 on: October 18, 2013, 10:45:30 PM »
Just finally purchased this lens last night after reading extensive reviews. I am excited to start shooting this lens.

Me too...I bought it, then sold it after picked up 85L II.

Last week, I placed a bid on Ebay on brand new 135L with Best Buy receipt included(100% feedback seller), lens still under warranty until Sep 27th, 2014. I didn't expect to win @ $800. Guess what? I won...lens arrived today with date UB6017 with pinch-cap.

I'm not sure what to say now ??? :-\ ::) :) ;D ;D ;D

not a bad deal I got mine for $700 which i was over the moon with and its like brand new only 2 years old by the date code
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