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New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:05:50 PM »
We’re told that the new TS-E lenses from Canon will be 45mm, 90mm and 135mm. One of the lenses (we think the 135mm) will be a macro, though we don’t know if it’s a 1:1 macro.

Upcoming Canon Lenses:

  • Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS
  • Canon TS-E 45mm f/2.8L
  • Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8L
  • Canon TS-E 135mm f/2.8L Macro? (We’re not 100% sure on the speed of the lens and what sort of macro capability it will have)

We’re keeping this at [CR2] until we get a confirmation we’re absolutely confident about.

We’re still wondering about the “Made In Malaysia” from the certification post from a few weeks back, and for the moment we cannot confirm or deny the country of manufacture or if that “Made in Malaysia” even had anything to do with the new tilt-shift lenses.

Correction: We have written another post that contradicts this one on a couple of points. 1) the TS-E 45mm f/2.8L will likely be a TS-E 50mm f/2.8L Macro, and the TS-E 135mm f/2.8L Macro is likely a TS-E 135mm f/4L Macro.

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New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« on: August 07, 2017, 07:05:50 PM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 07:20:06 PM »
Darn, I want the first three.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 07:44:25 PM »
That's a weird focal length selection. I suppose the 24mm mark II isn't in need of an update and the 17mm seems to be trucking along alright as it is, so if you're going to revise any of the existing TS-Es the 45mm and 90mm make the most sense. But 135mm? And macro? To me a macro tilt-shift implies product work, but 135mm is too long to give neutral perspective. 120mm would be more appropriate for that role, or 100mm. (Though I'd expect they'd feel that was too close to 90mm, unless the 100mm macro was also significantly slower.) And they're not going to pitch it as a portrait lens 'cause the 135mm f/2 is already suffering in sales from recent competition; no company ever kneecaps their own products.

I get the 45 and 90 being remade. I don't get a 135 at all. At all. 100 or 120, I'd understand. Or hell, remaking the 17mm. But a 135mm TS-E is nonsensical on par with launching a fifth 70-200 or a fourth 50mm.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 07:56:29 PM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 08:10:24 PM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

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A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 08:37:55 PM »
well, the 45mm and 90mm need red stripes. and 135 is a little long but more working distance for table top product means more dof, kinda what you're often looking for with TS-E, so all good.  and maybe used 45mm will drop in price enough for me to pick up one.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 09:58:22 PM »
That's a weird focal length selection. I suppose the 24mm mark II isn't in need of an update and the 17mm seems to be trucking along alright as it is, so if you're going to revise any of the existing TS-Es the 45mm and 90mm make the most sense. But 135mm? And macro? To me a macro tilt-shift implies product work, but 135mm is too long to give neutral perspective. 120mm would be more appropriate for that role, or 100mm. (Though I'd expect they'd feel that was too close to 90mm, unless the 100mm macro was also significantly slower.) And they're not going to pitch it as a portrait lens 'cause the 135mm f/2 is already suffering in sales from recent competition; no company ever kneecaps their own products.

I get the 45 and 90 being remade. I don't get a 135 at all. At all. 100 or 120, I'd understand. Or hell, remaking the 17mm. But a 135mm TS-E is nonsensical on par with launching a fifth 70-200 or a fourth 50mm.

or you're not the target market for an esoteric lens.


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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 09:58:22 PM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2017, 09:59:58 PM »
We’re still wondering about the “Made In Malaysia”..

IMO, it's an EF-M lens in three colors and nada to do with this.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2017, 12:01:30 AM »
Those are the focal lengths I expected, based on the recent patents about a longer focal length Tilt-Shift.  I am still wondering about IS.  It requires a movable lens group in both movable parts of the lens, so it seems unlikely, since the price would soar.

The 135 is going to be a big seller as is the 45.  The existing 90mm is very goo, so there would need to be a compelling reason to upgrade, like macro capability.  I sold my TS-E 90 because I did not use it enough, so I'll pass on the new ones as well.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 02:13:32 AM »
We’re still wondering about the “Made In Malaysia”..

IMO, it's an EF-M lens in three colors and nada to do with this.
That would make sense.
So maybe there has been some confusion with those registration numbers.
sometimes you have to close your eyes to see properly.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 04:32:26 AM »
IMO, it's an EF-M lens in three colors and nada to do with this.

Canon may surprise us. :D

After all, you predicted only 4 new lenses from Canon in 2017.

So far, we already have 2. And if we add the 85 f/1.4 + 3 tilt-shift + EF-M lens (in multicolors), we will have 7 new lenses. That will break the trend you described previously. :D

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2017, 05:32:36 AM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

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A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

As Mt Spokane Photography tipped off about in another of the Tilt-Shift threads, there's actually a TS-with-IS patent from Canon:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/05/29/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/05/29/canon-patent-shows-off-what-could-be-the-worlds-first-image-stabilized-tilt
http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/05/patent-canon-tilt-shift-with-image-stabilization/
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2017, 05:47:26 AM »


or you're not the target market for an esoteric lens.
I never claimed to be, nor even made the slightest reference to my own purposes. You'll notice I directly address the sales of such lenses; there's your hint that I'm not talking about my personal uses.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2017, 05:47:26 AM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2017, 08:26:50 AM »
After all, you predicted only 4 new lenses from Canon in 2017.

So far, we already have 2. And if we add the 85 f/1.4 + 3 tilt-shift + EF-M lens (in multicolors), we will have 7 new lenses. That will break the trend you described previously. :D

Assuming the three EF-M lenses are color variations on existing lenses (eg an EF-M 15-45 in white) then they don't really count as 'new lenses'
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2017, 08:29:07 AM »
Actually I think a 135mm tilt macro lens would be a smart move particularly for commercial photographers doing table-top food etc.
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2017, 08:29:07 AM »