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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2017, 08:21:50 AM »
Okay, I'm changing my guess to $500. Mark you spreadsheet Canon. 😆

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2017, 08:21:50 AM »

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2017, 08:52:33 AM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2017, 11:00:46 AM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

About that -- its apparently only 10% lighter:
http://www.canonrumors.com/updated-canon-ef-85mm-f1-4l-is-specifcations/

And I'm a little surprised that it is.  One would presume a huge pickle jar (longer/heavier/larger outer barrel diameter) is needed to get more/better glass in the corners to improve off-center resolution like the Otuses and Arts of the world.

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2017, 12:36:33 PM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

About that -- its apparently only 10% lighter:
http://www.canonrumors.com/updated-canon-ef-85mm-f1-4l-is-specifcations/

And I'm a little surprised that it is.  One would presume a huge pickle jar (longer/heavier/larger outer barrel diameter) is needed to get more/better glass in the corners to improve off-center resolution like the Otuses and Arts of the world.

- A

Yep...I'll pass. It's a poor man's 85IIL and not enough size / weight /MFD reduction to warrant the sticker price if I already have a fine copy of the 85IIL.

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2017, 12:59:23 PM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

About that -- its apparently only 10% lighter:
http://www.canonrumors.com/updated-canon-ef-85mm-f1-4l-is-specifcations/

And I'm a little surprised that it is.  One would presume a huge pickle jar (longer/heavier/larger outer barrel diameter) is needed to get more/better glass in the corners to improve off-center resolution like the Otuses and Arts of the world.

- A

Yep...I'll pass. It's a poor man's 85IIL and not enough size / weight /MFD reduction to warrant the sticker price if I already have a fine copy of the 85IIL.

"A poor mans 85 L II", really? I'll take proper AF, corner quality and IS over the bendy cornered Ca-ridden soft heavy with useless AF one aaaany day  :P :P
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2017, 01:52:49 PM »
Vigo,

GMCPhotograpics copy of the lens qualities of which you have just described is "a fine" one, you see. It resolves on high resolution bodies just fine,I take it, and totally magical from corner to corner.  :)

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2017, 02:15:17 PM »
Reading between the lines of a few posts, nobody I'll single out, I can already hear the drumbeats: 

BUT.  IT.  WON'T.  HAVE.  THE.  MAGIC.  OF.  F/1.2.  AND.  MY. MOJO.  WILL. BE.  STOLEN!

If it has the qualities of the 35mm f/1.4 and IS, a new era of Canon portrait work will be issued in.  Oh, yes.

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2017, 02:15:17 PM »

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2017, 02:17:54 PM »
Vigo,

GMCPhotograpics copy of the lens qualities of which you have just described is "a fine" one, you see. It resolves on high resolution bodies just fine,I take it, and totally magical from corner to corner.  :)

Hehe, yeah it's not that long in between I read "My copy of the 50 f1.2 L dosen't have focus shift"  8)
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2017, 07:51:23 PM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

About that -- its apparently only 10% lighter:
http://www.canonrumors.com/updated-canon-ef-85mm-f1-4l-is-specifcations/

And I'm a little surprised that it is.  One would presume a huge pickle jar (longer/heavier/larger outer barrel diameter) is needed to get more/better glass in the corners to improve off-center resolution like the Otuses and Arts of the world.

- A

Yep...I'll pass. It's a poor man's 85IIL and not enough size / weight /MFD reduction to warrant the sticker price if I already have a fine copy of the 85IIL.

What if it costs $4k+? ;)

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2017, 01:41:44 AM »
Vigo,

GMCPhotograpics copy of the lens qualities of which you have just described is "a fine" one, you see. It resolves on high resolution bodies just fine,I take it, and totally magical from corner to corner.  :)

Hehe, yeah it's not that long in between I read "My copy of the 50 f1.2 L dosen't have focus shift"  8)

But my 50L really does not suffer from visible focus shifting 8)
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2017, 07:19:22 AM »
Vigo,

GMCPhotograpics copy of the lens qualities of which you have just described is "a fine" one, you see. It resolves on high resolution bodies just fine,I take it, and totally magical from corner to corner.  :)

Hehe, yeah it's not that long in between I read "My copy of the 50 f1.2 L dosen't have focus shift"  8)

But my 50L really does not suffer from visible focus shifting 8)

LOL :P
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2017, 05:24:16 AM »
no, it does not... until you take your sunglasses off and look at that image again  ;D  ;D

But my 50L really does not suffer from visible focus shifting 8)
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2017, 03:46:40 AM »
For me and my shooting needs...as much as I love my 85L...its a big lump of glass to lug around a wedding all day. I don't want to replace my 85L, but a lighter option to take over my existing 85's current duties would be well welcomed. I may even be able to ditch my 100 L Macro from my bag if the short focus distance and IS unit are good enough to shoot ring shots. Maybe even with a short 25mm tube on the new 85 LIS would make this a workable option.

Word. I'll gladly take a half stop of light loss in exchange for less CA, sharpness across the aperture, IS and finally, and more importantly, fast AF. 1.2 is nice but it brought a whole lot of other baggage with it.

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2017, 03:46:40 AM »

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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2017, 01:56:03 PM »
As some pointed out, the EF85 1.2 II does have optics and AF that are not easy to use. Such were my thoughts when I rented a 85 1.2 II and used it on a 5D1. Focus was not easy to achieve always and it was slow. I also borrowed a 85 1.8 from a friend of mine, that was way easier to handle, but did not like the images too much.

Later on, I bought a 85 1.2 II used, because - like Mr. Wilde - I just couldn't resist temptation. f/1.2 is sooooo much more light than f/1.8. DOF-shallowness also. While focus is still on the slow side, I find it not difficult to achieve perfect focus with the excellent AF system of my 5D3. Focus by wire becomes the new standard with STM lenses anyway, and I got used to it. Yes, it still feels strange.
Since, I have just fallen absolutely in love with that lens. It is amazing.

The IS in the new 85 1.4 lens will be a game changer, I believe. Probably that lenses greatest asset. A real advantage over the 1.2. The rest (AF-speed, build quality, image rendering, colour rendering, price) remains to be seen, however.

I doubt I will ever sell my 1.2 II, but if I didn't have one already...
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Re: Some Information About the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS [CR3]
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2017, 01:56:03 PM »