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Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« on: September 28, 2017, 04:48:03 PM »
I’ve finished up my coverage of the new Canon EOS 6D Mark II, and my findings are now live.


Text Review:  http://bit.ly/6DIIDA
Video Review:  http://bit.ly/6DMarkiiDA
Image Gallery:  http://bit.ly/6DMK2ig

Quick summary:  a good camera that could/should have been a better camera.
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Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« on: September 28, 2017, 04:48:03 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 04:58:49 PM »
Here's a few that I've shared to social media taken with the 6DII

Creeping In (Canon EOS 6D Mark II) by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

To New Friends by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

When the Light Beckons by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr

Spun Gold by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 05:47:10 PM »
Thank you, Dustin, for your thorough and reasonable reviews. I've enjoyed your posts on this site for years, and it's been neat to see your reviews get better and more polished as you go. Well done.

As for the 6DII, this is mostly the camera I hoped Canon would produce. I really just wanted a full-frame version of my 70D, and it's even better than that.

Still, there are a couple of palpable disappointments for me. The AF point spread is the main letdown for me, but live view focusing is so good, that if a composition requires it, I have no qualms about using it when the AF points aren't wide enough (do it all the time with the 70D whose diamond-shaped spread also leaves me hanging at the one-third intersections).

Dynamic range is the other disappointment  -- not because it's the be-all, end-all spec. It hasn't really held me back with the 70D, so it's nothing to fuss about with the 6DII (for me), though I will gladly take as much as I can get. The disappointment is really more about expecting something with the on-chip ADC, like the 80D, SL2 and 5DIV...and getting older, off-chip conversion. Oh well. Your review sets the context well.

I especially appreciate your dynamic range side-by-side comparisons. It's really helpful to know that if I want to preserve details in the sky, it'll be better to push my histogram to the right as it would seem cleaner to recover highlights than to boost shadows.

Hopefully, the price will come down around $1,600-$1,700 USD in the next year or so. If it does, I'm in. :)

Thanks again, and keep up the great work!

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 01:41:11 AM »
Thanks for the review Dustin; I think you hit the right balance of pros and cons in that it's not a bad camera, just not as good as I suspect many people were expecting/hoping for.
When I saw the 5dmk4 specs, I did get a bit worried that canon hadn't upped the game enough to give the 6dmk2 a good shot, and it looks like this is the case.

This review coming from someone who uses Canon cameras and has had some time with this one really cements that this isn't worth upgrading from a 6d to. My question is though, if your 6d failed, would you go with a 6dmk2, or would you put your money into another camera? (Canon or otherwise)

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 07:11:48 AM »
Thanks for the review Dustin; I think you hit the right balance of pros and cons in that it's not a bad camera, just not as good as I suspect many people were expecting/hoping for.
When I saw the 5dmk4 specs, I did get a bit worried that canon hadn't upped the game enough to give the 6dmk2 a good shot, and it looks like this is the case.

This review coming from someone who uses Canon cameras and has had some time with this one really cements that this isn't worth upgrading from a 6d to. My question is though, if your 6d failed, would you go with a 6dmk2, or would you put your money into another camera? (Canon or otherwise)

Allow me to add my perspective.....

At work I have a 6D. The 6D2 is not worth the upgrade (for me). If the 6D failed, I would replace it with a 6D2.

At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...

NOTE: Work cameras stay at work, and can only be used for work... they are under my control, but I do not own them. Cameras (other than work cameras) are not allowed on site and photography without permission leads to confiscated cameras.

To my mind, the 6D2 is a good camera at a reasonable price. It could have been better, it could have been worse....
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 07:24:42 AM »
Thanks for the review Dustin; I think you hit the right balance of pros and cons in that it's not a bad camera, just not as good as I suspect many people were expecting/hoping for.
When I saw the 5dmk4 specs, I did get a bit worried that canon hadn't upped the game enough to give the 6dmk2 a good shot, and it looks like this is the case.

This review coming from someone who uses Canon cameras and has had some time with this one really cements that this isn't worth upgrading from a 6d to. My question is though, if your 6d failed, would you go with a 6dmk2, or would you put your money into another camera? (Canon or otherwise)

Allow me to add my perspective.....

At work I have a 6D. The 6D2 is not worth the upgrade (for me). If the 6D failed, I would replace it with a 6D2.

At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...

NOTE: Work cameras stay at work, and can only be used for work... they are under my control, but I do not own them. Cameras (other than work cameras) are not allowed on site and photography without permission leads to confiscated cameras.

To my mind, the 6D2 is a good camera at a reasonable price. It could have been better, it could have been worse....

Fair enough
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 07:26:01 AM »
Thanks for the review Dustin; I think you hit the right balance of pros and cons in that it's not a bad camera, just not as good as I suspect many people were expecting/hoping for.
When I saw the 5dmk4 specs, I did get a bit worried that canon hadn't upped the game enough to give the 6dmk2 a good shot, and it looks like this is the case.

This review coming from someone who uses Canon cameras and has had some time with this one really cements that this isn't worth upgrading from a 6d to. My question is though, if your 6d failed, would you go with a 6dmk2, or would you put your money into another camera? (Canon or otherwise)

I suspect that I would probably buy another 5D Mark IV, actually, and I'm also considering a Sony a7RII in that I use the 6D a lot for my manual glass (EG-S matte screen), and the a7R II is a better platform yet for MF glass. 
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 06:16:26 PM »

At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...


This is just what I needed to hear. :P

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 06:30:23 PM »

At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...


This is just what I needed to hear. :P

Low light improvement over crop is FANTASTIC.

I was able to use AF by moonlight.....

In normal light levels, the 7D2 AF system is way better.... more points, better spread, and more configureable

I like the tilt swivel screen....

The WiFi interface is not what it should be.... needs better integration with a phone or tablet app....

I would have preferred 4K, but the IS 2K is great!

I REALLY like the time lapse functionality.... in fact, tomorrow night will see me in the middle of Algonquin Park, shooting a stars time lapse....
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 06:31:36 PM »
At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...

...

To my mind, the 6D2 is a good camera at a reasonable price. It could have been better, it could have been worse....

I'm in agreement. I upgraded from a 6D to the 6D2 and I'm very satisfied. The mark II checks all the boxes that were holding me back on the original, namely AI Servo, subject tracking. The new focus system is far superior. The sensor of the mark I was never holding me back.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 06:54:50 PM »
Thanks for the review Dustin; I think you hit the right balance of pros and cons in that it's not a bad camera, just not as good as I suspect many people were expecting/hoping for.
When I saw the 5dmk4 specs, I did get a bit worried that canon hadn't upped the game enough to give the 6dmk2 a good shot, and it looks like this is the case.

This review coming from someone who uses Canon cameras and has had some time with this one really cements that this isn't worth upgrading from a 6d to. My question is though, if your 6d failed, would you go with a 6dmk2, or would you put your money into another camera? (Canon or otherwise)

I suspect that I would probably buy another 5D Mark IV, actually, and I'm also considering a Sony a7RII in that I use the 6D a lot for my manual glass (EG-S matte screen), and the a7R II is a better platform yet for MF glass.

Thanks, good to hear from someone with experience of both, but also the original 6d. You mentioned that the battery life on the 6dmk2 was improved, which is great, how many shots do you get with the 5dmk4 in comparison?

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 07:12:52 PM »

At home, the 6D2 was definitely worth the upgrade from a crop camera...


This is just what I needed to hear. :P

Low light improvement over crop is FANTASTIC.

I was able to use AF by moonlight.....

In normal light levels, the 7D2 AF system is way better.... more points, better spread, and more configureable

I like the tilt swivel screen....

The WiFi interface is not what it should be.... needs better integration with a phone or tablet app....

I would have preferred 4K, but the IS 2K is great!

I REALLY like the time lapse functionality.... in fact, tomorrow night will see me in the middle of Algonquin Park, shooting a stars time lapse....

Okay -- now you're seriously testing my resolve to wait until the price comes down.  ;D

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 12:30:12 AM »
I picked up my 6D2 this afternoon. The salesman had told me that he had never seen the STM lens, so we unboxed it in the store. He put the battery from his 6D in, and we both took a few shots in the store. He was much impressed by the autofocus.

Back home I put the battery in to charge for a while, and then I tried out a few things. I shot video of the ceiling fan at both 30 and 60fps and then turned on the TV and shot some video of it. I went outside about 11:30 mainly to let the GPS find enough satellites. I set the autoexposure to allow up to ISO 40000 and photographed the neighborhood and some bushes handheld by just the stray light. Tomorrow I’ll see if I learned anything from the experience when I import the pictures on to the computer.

I put the camera battery back on to charge while I sleep tonight. I may take the camera to a college football game tomorrow and try some video fron the stands. I will report anything that seems of interest, and maybe a photo ot two.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 05:09:02 AM »

Since July 28 I have shot a few (or more) photos with the 6D MK II
In most aspects it is a good upgrade from the 6D (perviously owned). And though some reviewers claim that it is less interesting for 6D owners to upgrade....I disagree.
Dustin already mentioned those aspects


It is fair to say, and Dustin mentioned them, from practical use that there are aspects that could be better.
Though I thought the early reports about less dynamic range would not bother me, it does while using the camera. I noticed that while shooting inside a trainstation. Even little shadowlifting is causing a sort of banding. Not pleasing at all.
It is really a challenge choosing the right moment (natural lighting), composition (incl. angle) and exposure. Far more than using the 6D.


Don Haines is right about the Wifi. I struggle whith connections to a Surface tablet and Samsung s7 mobile. Some 6D MK II users may not experience connections problems but in my opinion it should be like plug'n play for all.


And, it is something I haven't read a lot about....the quality of the body. Yes, it is less than the 6D and feels like a rebel camera. The buttons on the back really feel like plastic and (now and then) even click when pressing them. The wheel on the back of the camera also feels less robust than with the 6D. They slightly redesigned it and I think it is more a rebel wheel.


I see myself using the 6D MK II more now than using my 5D MK III
The camera is smaller/lighter, takes my 100-400 II with ext 1.4 better at f/8, having the vari-angle touch screen is a huge plus.
If a 5D MK IV successor would include the vari-angle touch screen.....I would sell the 6D MK II instantly.
Vari-angle screen is now the feature (and maybe size and weight) in the entry level FF that may convince 5D owners to buy it as a second camera. Previously is was the 6D sensor compared to the 5D MK III sensor.
If that's enough, it is up to 5D owners. But if a 5D MKIV successor would include the vari-angle touch screen I would not buy the 6D MKII as a second camera. If Canon would include 5D owners to buy the 6D future series as second camera, they have to come up with better features and most likely the sensor.
Or maybe it is just a very small group of 5D owners buying a 6D series as second camera. It won't be a decision factor for Canon.
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Re: Canon EOS 6D Mark II Review | Dustin
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 08:39:02 AM »
Add me to the list of people that would love the Vari-Angle screen on the 5D series.
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