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The Canon EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 Shows Up for Certification
« on: November 13, 2017, 07:53:26 AM »

Nokishita has uncovered a new Canon camera that has appeared for bluetooth certification. It looks like it will be called the EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 depending on the market.








The naming scheme is interesting, as “Kiss” is usually held for DSLRs in Japan. Could this be the first EOS M camera with an EF mount?


We think this camera will be coming for CES In January at the earliest.


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The Canon EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 Shows Up for Certification
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Re: The Canon EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 Shows Up for Certification
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 08:16:11 AM »
No, that's silly.

It can't be an EOS M if it has EF mount!

It is a very curious announcement.  With naming protocols we would expect it to be between the M100 and the M5/6 in feature/price point.

What would that be?   

An EOS M100 with EVF (ie cut-down M5)?   maybe similar form-factor to Sony A6x00 series.

An EOS M100 with hot-shoe external EVF mount (ie cut-down M6)?  Unlikely.

I suspect we'll see the EF-M 18-55 II announced with this too. 

Clearly the M range are doing well in Asia (and in my household too, we have M3, M5 and M6 here)



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Re: The Canon EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 Shows Up for Certification
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 08:29:10 AM »
Well they already screwed up the naming convention so who knows where this one will fall.

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 08:34:44 AM »
The Kiss moniker suggests a consumer (xxD/xxxD) level ILC.  But no Rebel moniker.  Perhaps a mirrorless equivalent of the 77D / Kiss 9000.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 08:51:54 AM »
The Kiss moniker suggests a consumer (xxD/xxxD) level ILC.  But no Rebel moniker.  Perhaps a mirrorless equivalent of the 77D / Kiss 9000.

soo..a bit lower specced than the M5?
that would be the M100, right?
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 08:58:37 AM »
I'd bet for an APS-C with EF/EF-S mount.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 09:24:07 AM »
The Kiss moniker suggests a consumer (xxD/xxxD) level ILC.  But no Rebel moniker.  Perhaps a mirrorless equivalent of the 77D / Kiss 9000.

soo..a bit lower specced than the M5?
that would be the M100, right?

M100 controls, with a built-in EVF.  Done. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 09:25:52 AM »
I'd bet for an APS-C with EF/EF-S mount.

I'm skeptical, but I actually hope this is what comes out. If so, it almost certainly indicates that the full frame mirrorless will have an EF mount.
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Re: The Canon EOS Kiss M / EOS M50 Shows Up for Certification
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 09:26:08 AM »
No, that's silly.

It can't be an EOS M if it has EF mount!...

The Kiss moniker suggests a consumer (xxD/xxxD) level ILC.

Agreed.

We don't have access to Canon's market research or branding surveys, but this simply sounds like the "Kiss" brand is well established in certain markets and Canon wants to make sure a new consumer mirrorless camera remains identified with the "Kiss" branding.

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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 09:53:54 AM »
Since I just bought the M5 I'm sure it's an EF/EF-S mount body.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 09:56:39 AM »
M100 controls, with a built-in EVF.  Done.
The M50 should be worse specced than the M5 and better than the M100.

But if it has a EVF, it is - from this point of view - better than the M6, which I don't think it's plausible.

Maybe the problem is me: I thought that the current range of Canon APS-C Mirrorless was already wide enough.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 10:20:11 AM »
It's well known among retailers that purchasing in these ranges is incredibly price sensitive. Canon have built a camera empire on knowing that and making a range of models with a feature set appealing enough to enough buyers to make them leaders. I am sure now the mirrorless bandwagon is rolling in other markets they will tailor their offerings to those ends.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 10:46:09 AM »
M100 controls, with a built-in EVF.  Done.
The M50 should be worse specced than the M5 and better than the M100.

But if it has a EVF, it is - from this point of view - better than the M6, which I don't think it's plausible.

Maybe the problem is me: I thought that the current range of Canon APS-C Mirrorless was already wide enough.

I don't think EVF = better.  Rather, it's a choice of smaller body size with optional/removable EVF vs. larger body size with built-in EVF.  Personally, I chose the M6 for full controls (unlike the M100) and smaller size. 

With the Kiss nameplate, I think it will have a built-in EVF.  It will likely still use the EF-M mount.  To me, this feels like Canon trying to place MILCs in their mainstream product line...span the Kiss name across the ILC line, and eventually shift the entry level from dSLR to MILC.  It makes sense for this to happen first in Japan and Asia.

Regarding the APS-C MILC range, it's not yet nearly as segmented as the APS-C dSLR range, which arguably has 6 levels: xxxxD, xxxD, xxD, and 7D, plus the small-size 100/200D and the xxxD/xxD hybrids (760D and 77D, which are EOS 8000D/9000D in Japan).  So, there's plenty of room in the MILC line.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 10:52:31 AM »
I'd bet for an APS-C with EF/EF-S mount.

I'm skeptical, but I actually hope this is what comes out. If so, it almost certainly indicates that the full frame mirrorless will have an EF mount.

I hope so too. I almost wonder if they are considering abandoning the EF-M mount then. I have an M-5 & two Ef-M lenses, but I rarely use those. I always have EF or EF-s lens attached. The 50 1.4 actually feels really nice on the M5. I'd be willing to bet that the FF Mirrorless with be EF mount, and possibly Cinema orriented to compete with the Sony A7S II & A7R iii. Either way, the EOS M line is finally working out, the M5 is phenomenal IMO, but the line needs beefing up, and soon.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 10:55:27 AM »
I'd bet for an APS-C with EF/EF-S mount.

I'm skeptical, but I actually hope this is what comes out. If so, it almost certainly indicates that the full frame mirrorless will have an EF mount.
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