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hachu21

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2018, 01:39:09 PM »
Small?  Yes.
STM?  Highly likely.
Pancake?  No.  Not unless you consider the 50 f/1.8 stm a pancake.

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I agree a 50mm really pancake seem difficult, but Something more like the EF 40mm f/2.8 is maybe possible?
As you pointed out, some designs are jumping from one mount to another.
We didn't see little brothers for this 40mm yet. maybe a jump from FF to APSC is not that simple.
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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2018, 01:47:08 PM »
Small?  Yes.
STM?  Highly likely.
Pancake?  No.  Not unless you consider the 50 f/1.8 stm a pancake.

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I agree a 50mm really pancake seem difficult, but Something more like the EF 40mm f/2.8 is maybe possible?

Sure, it could be delightfully small, but prior crop 30-ish f/1.4 lenses still have some size to them.

See my prior TDP link on how big the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 Art was.  It’s small, but it’s no pancake.   And neither is the Fuji 35 f/1.4.   Both appear to be about as big as the Canon EF 35 f/2 IS.

But who knows? Perhaps Canon pulls a rabbit out of a hat and comes up with something amazingly tiny.  We’ll see.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2018, 02:08:24 PM »
If it’s a 1.4 I’ll likely go for it...but at 1.8 I’d rather it have IS if it’s to distinguish itself enough from the 22/2.

Bottom line: the EF-M system needs more fast lenses.
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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2018, 02:12:18 PM »
If it’s a 1.4 I’ll likely go for it...but at 1.8 I’d rather it have IS if it’s to distinguish itself enough from the 22/2.
22mm => 35mm equivalent field of view
32mm => 50mm equivalent field of view

As primes both have their own use-cases.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2018, 02:27:51 PM »
If it’s a 1.4 I’ll likely go for it...but at 1.8 I’d rather it have IS if it’s to distinguish itself enough from the 22/2.
22mm => 35mm equivalent field of view
32mm => 50mm equivalent field of view

As primes both have their own use-cases.

+1.  I live in the 24 to 50 mm full frame equivalent space,  and I disagree with those who say that a 22 and 32 on crop are not that different.

In broad strokes, I see the 15 crop / 24 FF for landscape work, the 18-22 crop / 28-35 FF as a killer general purpose focal length, and a 32 crop / 50 prime as the shortest focal length that gets you large aperture work that really pops.

In fairness, everybody uses these lenses a little differently.  But my take is the more primes the better.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2018, 02:29:44 PM »
If it’s a 1.4 I’ll likely go for it...but at 1.8 I’d rather it have IS if it’s to distinguish itself enough from the 22/2.
22mm => 35mm equivalent field of view
32mm => 50mm equivalent field of view

As primes both have their own use-cases.

I realize that; should probably have clarified I was speaking on a more personal needs level.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Announcement Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 02:35:57 PM »
If f1.4, will the lens be like, attaching an EF 35mm 1.4 L to Eos M?

A close lens with similar spec is Fujifilm 35mm f1.4 that has 52mm filter size, approx. 2.56 x 2.16" (65 x 55 mm) dimensions and 187g weight. Something similar in size to EF-M 11-22mm. It is not a big lens but not a pancake either.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Announcement Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2018, 02:35:57 PM »

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2018, 02:57:37 PM »
EF-M 32mm f/1.4 plus a 4K (full width) APS-C body will be an instant buy for me. Until then I'll just keep using the 80D with the 35mm f/2 IS USM

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2018, 03:32:54 PM »
Small?  Yes.
STM?  Highly likely.
Pancake?  No.  Not unless you consider the 50 f/1.8 stm a pancake.

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I agree a 50mm really pancake seem difficult, but Something more like the EF 40mm f/2.8 is maybe possible?
As you pointed out, some designs are jumping from one mount to another.
We didn't see little brothers for this 40mm yet. maybe a jump from FF to APSC is not that simple.

yes you have.
the 22 EF-M and the 24mm EF-S are the little brothers.

the common tessar like design of the pancake lenses are built around the registration distance of the lens elements to the sensor.

the EF-S 24mm cheats because it has a large ingress, and minimizes distortion because it's APS-C and not full frame.


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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2018, 04:25:23 PM »
I would be surprised if the lens is f/1.4, and shocked if it doesn't have IS. Eight months is too long to wait to find out. I'm impatient [CR4]

Now what about that f/4 standard zoom?
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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Announcement Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2018, 04:33:40 PM »
If it's f/1.4, I'm in.  If it's f/1.8, that may not far enough off the 22/2.

My sentiments precisely.

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Announcement Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2018, 05:43:02 PM »
If it's f/1.4, I'm in.  If it's f/1.8, that may not far enough off the 22/2.

My sentiments precisely.

This is being repeated however if we were talking FF would this point even come up considering the pretty large focal difference between 35 and 50? It really makes no sense to me just because it's the M mount that it is. 28 and 35, sure...40 and 50, I get that but semi wide to normal? What evs.....

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2018, 08:05:45 PM »
I'm very happy Canon is adding another native EF-M lens. But this focal length(1.6x factor considered) doesn't have appeal to me;
my preferred walkaround prime fl(FF equiv.) is 35-45mm, 50 and above is a bit narrow. I had the 35mm f2 is on 6d before, it felt wide(ish); 50mm II on 6d, narrow.

Although there's the 22m already, I would love to see a native EF-M 24 and 28 mils further down the road, even if they start at f/2.
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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2018, 08:36:32 PM »
Sign me up!  Personally I like the 50mm+/- equivalent focal length. F/stop, IS, whatever - it's not like we have a lot of other choices, eh? I do have the 22mm.

I have recently been using the nicely compact Fuji 35mm f/2 without IS with no problems. I just had to get back in the habit of watching the minimum shutter speed. My Fuji X-T20 is driving me nuts, though.  Even though the Fuji lenses are very nice and very plentiful, the Fuji bodies, of which I have had several..... nuff said.

Got the M5 back out again today, before I saw this.  Like I said, sign me up.  8)

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Re: Canon EF-M 32mm f/1.4 Coming for Photokina [CR2/CR3]
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2018, 10:27:18 PM »
I'll probably be in the minority, but I'd prefer if it were f/1.8 or even f/2.

I can live with no IS, but then I'd want a lens that is small and light. Something in the spirit of the 22/2. Of course it will have to be bigger than that lens, but I'd hope for something in the same ball park, just a bit longer. And I don't think that would be possible with a f/1.4, because physics. Then it gets closer to the size of e.g. the Sigma 30mm DC, and that's already significantly bigger.

So a small, cheap 32mm f1.8 please. And keep the f/1.4 and f/1.2 for the future full frame line  ;)
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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2018, 10:27:18 PM »