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We seem to be getting information from new places every week now, so please mind the ratings you’re seeing on our most recent posts. However, there are times [CR1] rumors turn out to have some truth to them.

About a new Canon mirrorless:

  1. We’re told that a full frame mirrorless will be coming in September.
  2. Canon’s new mirrorless will NOT be part of the EOS system, the focus will be on video.
  3. Think EOS 5D Mark IV, but mirrorless.
  4. 4K @ 30/25/24 FPS
  5. Codename begins with Z

Other Information:

  1. New mirrorless lens at Photokina (EF-M 32mm f/1.4?)
  2. New Cinema EOS body coming before Photokina

There’s always the possibility that there are multiple cameras are being developed concurrently, and that the above information only covers one of them.

Take this stuff with a grain of salt, but I find some intriguing ideas above that may fit with more cryptic information we’ve received over the last month or so.

More to come…

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 09:57:08 AM »
To think of 5d4 mirrorless, but NOT part of EOS - now THAT is going to be a challenging task. wtf.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 10:02:59 AM »
To think of 5d4 mirrorless, but NOT part of EOS - now THAT is going to be a challenging task. wtf.

Exactly what I was thinking - how do you reconcile that it will be like a mirrorless 5dIV but not part of the EOS system?

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 10:05:23 AM »
Maybe the lens won't be interchangeable?

But a 5D4 form factor would seem very large for a fixed-lens camera.
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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 10:19:33 AM »
Why make a DSLR form factor with focus on video??? Such form factor cameras are for photography first....

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 10:31:52 AM »
If that's not belonging into EOS line, then it's just maybe something like XC15 with interchangeable lens.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 10:34:09 AM »
Why make a DSLR form factor with focus on video??? Such form factor cameras are for photography first....

Whats not to like: Interchangeable lens video camera in a much smaller package. Does both photos and videos well and easily. One camera to do it all reasonably well... Sounds great to me

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 10:34:09 AM »

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2018, 10:47:18 AM »
This opens more questions than it closes. First of all, the 5DmkIV is the guess of this site, right? Secondly, how would this concentrate on video, but not do 4K at 60fps? That’s a real lack.

And no EOS mount, well, we were just discussing that. So is this Canon’s Video mount instead, since it’s more for video? And is the lens mentioned for this, or for their M series, which it seems to be with the M as part of the name?

We’re certainly not expecting the M series mount for full frame.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2018, 11:09:42 AM »
If the code name is "Z" and it is video centric, then an extension of the XC-15 concept seems to be the most likely.

IOW not at all interesting for me.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2018, 12:39:54 PM »
Canon's video cameras are already mirrorless, and "thinking 5D MK IV" and video only brings to mind the reflex mirror.  So none of this makes much sense.  Maybe it's more like, think of a Canon C100, but with a full frame sensor and a different form factor?

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2018, 12:55:08 PM »
We’re certainly not expecting the M series mount for full frame.

Not sure who the "we" is of which you speak, but I think a good % of those who have been paying attention here are expecting exactly that.
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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2018, 12:58:10 PM »
Also, be certain that during the run-up to launch we're going to see a LOT of misinformation about these cameras spread online.

Some might be deliberate misinformation leaked by Canon in order to either control expectation or to deceive competitors.

Some may be simple wishful thinking on behalf of internet fans.

Some may simply be some grain of truth that's been allowed to ferment into a weak beer of wrong assumptions.
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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 01:12:48 PM »
Well, I'm expecting the EF-M 32mm f/1.4 to mount perfectly fine on my M5.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2018, 01:12:48 PM »

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2018, 02:44:03 PM »
Why make a DSLR form factor with focus on video??? Such form factor cameras are for photography first....

Somebody must have ripped that page out of my copy of the rule book. Can't find it anywhere.   ;)
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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2018, 02:44:37 PM »
Canon's video cameras are already mirrorless, and "thinking 5D MK IV" and video only brings to mind the reflex mirror.  So none of this makes much sense.  Maybe it's more like, think of a Canon C100, but with a full frame sensor and a different form factor?

If true, this is a FF mirrorless HYBRID camera for video AND stills, which is why it may be a still camera form factor. And it is long overdue.

I will say 4K 60p is needed to be successful against the GH5/s family so hope they include that but literally any hybrid camera that shoots great stills AND great 4K video (no crop, Canon, not hobbled in any way) is most welcome.

A lot of the photography guys will kick and scream because it's not for them- it's for a different market- and again, if true, Canon has finally caught up in their market research and realized that they need to serve this market.

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Re: More Full Frame Mirrorless Talk, Maybe Some Surprises? [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2018, 02:44:37 PM »