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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2018, 01:57:36 AM »
I wish Canon or somebody would release a slide in digital back for my 5x4 camera. It could be like a Polaroid back, but have large lcd screen.  ;D

They've got something you might like too.

http://largesense.com/products/4x5-large-format-digital-back-ls45/


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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2018, 01:57:36 AM »

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2018, 12:03:45 PM »
Well, on reflection, I stand corrected.

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2018, 03:20:32 PM »
I can see the 8x10 format making a comeback.  This is awesome news!!!

you can see it here now if you have enough scratch for that itch..  ;D

http://largesense.com/



 :D I thought this was really cool until I found the $106,000 price. Ouch! Still cool, but unobtainable for mortals. Neuro probably keeps one on a shelf in the laundry room. ;)
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2018, 10:10:55 PM »
I can see the 8x10 format making a comeback.  This is awesome news!!!

you can see it here now if you have enough scratch for that itch..  ;D

http://largesense.com/



 :D I thought this was really cool until I found the $106,000 price. Ouch! Still cool, but unobtainable for mortals. Neuro probably keeps one on a shelf in the laundry room. ;)

WAIT A MINUTE!

The Canon sensor is the worlds largest at 20cm square, but this 8X10 sensor would be 20cm by 25cm.....

Something does not compute
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2018, 12:59:12 AM »
I can see the 8x10 format making a comeback.  This is awesome news!!!

you can see it here now if you have enough scratch for that itch..  ;D

http://largesense.com/



 :D I thought this was really cool until I found the $106,000 price. Ouch! Still cool, but unobtainable for mortals. Neuro probably keeps one on a shelf in the laundry room. ;)

WAIT A MINUTE!

The Canon sensor is the worlds largest at 20cm square, but this 8X10 sensor would be 20cm by 25cm.....

Something does not compute

Actually, if you follow the link I posted on the second page, you’ll see that it’s actually 9X11 ;)

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2018, 04:28:00 AM »
Hi Don.
I think you missed the Ultrahigh-Sensitivity bit!  ;D

Cheers, Graham.

I can see the 8x10 format making a comeback.  This is awesome news!!!

you can see it here now if you have enough scratch for that itch..  ;D

http://largesense.com/



 :D I thought this was really cool until I found the $106,000 price. Ouch! Still cool, but unobtainable for mortals. Neuro probably keeps one on a shelf in the laundry room. ;)

WAIT A MINUTE!

The Canon sensor is the worlds largest at 20cm square, but this 8X10 sensor would be 20cm by 25cm.....

Something does not compute
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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2018, 10:18:08 PM »
I can see the 8x10 format making a comeback.  This is awesome news!!!

you can see it here now if you have enough scratch for that itch..  ;D

http://largesense.com/



 :D I thought this was really cool until I found the $106,000 price. Ouch! Still cool, but unobtainable for mortals. Neuro probably keeps one on a shelf in the laundry room. ;)

WAIT A MINUTE!

The Canon sensor is the worlds largest at 20cm square, but this 8X10 sensor would be 20cm by 25cm.....

Something does not compute

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The silicon wafers used by my "Fabs" are either 200mm or 300mm ...BUT... there are also 500mm sizes for specialty systems (i.e. very large vector-based CISC/RISC/DSP chips aka Array processors) which need a very large die size. I think I remember seeing that 500mm one at one of Lockheed Martin's subsidiaries who made custom chips for government customers. Curtis Wright and of course Teledyne-Dalsa also are starting to use larger than 300mm wafer sizes.

The largest sensors can be multi-chip OR single-die slices and if I remember correctly the largest single die slice is a 340mm by 340mm for a 16k by 16k resolution satellite-specific CMOS chip -- I think it was made my Thales or Dassault for a French commercial imaging satellite. Because it used outside-of-sensor-area DSP circuits, it needed to be 34cm by 34 cm in order to fit on a 500 mm wafer. Last i heard is the company was selling 16k x 96k images at 15000+ Euros per area scan and that they are booked solid for satellite time! SOMEONE HIGH UP is most certainly booking up all the time so that no-one else gets the imagery!

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Now those of you wondering about my sources...A source BY DEFINITION is generally unconfirmable and untrustworthy! You need MULTIPLE SOURCES to confirm ANY rumour of any type! Ergo, I like to cultivate multiple anonymous "sources" which hopefully have "real data" which can at the very least, be cross-checked and correlated to come up with a MOST-LIKELY SCENARIO. I have television media training (i.e. a Diploma in Broadcast Television) which means I was taught to DIG DEEP and CORRELATE MULTIPLE DATA SOURCE so that any given "fact" can be given a specific weight. SOME SOURCES are "Better" than others so I give them more weight. Other sources are newer and have no track record with me and I give hem much less weight.

I also have enough technical education that I can at least Quantify the legitimacy of SOME TYPES OF TECHNICAL DATA specifically relating to camera gear, imaging sensors, computer processing techniques and technology, computer memory and online/offline storage systems and aerospace/UAV/drone systems. THOSE are in my area of expertise.

Soooooo......using a simple spreadsheet and a basic 1-to-10 weighting system you give ALL facts a weight based upon the NUMBER of disparate sources that are giving said fact out (i.e. Canon is testing an MF camera!).  If 7 sources out of 10 are giving me that fact, and 4 of those sources are in Japanese sensor engineering related to or known by people at Canon or its subsidiaries, then I can use a Mean and Average-based scoring system to tell me that BY WEIGHTED AVERAGE, a lot of high quality sources are telling me Canon is making a big sensor! Then If at least two OTHER sources from say....a flourite-related sub-systems manufacturer and a magnesium/aluminum tubing supplier tells me something of a certain diameter and length is going to certain factories in Japan, then I need to add that weight in too!

Ergo, Canon is a making VERY BIG LENSES for a VERY BIG SENSOR and it's for a near 65mm system....Sooooo...SEE how this works?...Correlation MAY HAVE a specific causation and by digging even further, I get to see if a specific causation is actually related to said correlations...i.e. Canon is making a large-sensor MF Stills or Video Camera and thus needs big tubed-lenses, lots of heavy indium-coated flourite glass, big magnesium bodies and big sensors !!!


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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2018, 10:18:08 PM »

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2018, 11:27:51 PM »
Now those of you wondering about my sources...A source BY DEFINITION is generally unconfirmable and untrustworthy!

Please cite your multiple definitions which on weighted average return “unconfirmable and untrustworthy” as defining characteristics of “source.”

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Re: The World's Largest Ultrahigh-Sensitivity CMOS Image Sensor
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2018, 11:27:51 PM »