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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 06:02:53 AM »
wow.. thats awesome, cant wait to have one...


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if this was a good thing, they have put it on new release 70-200mm
canon also knows this is garbage

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 06:02:53 AM »

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2018, 06:28:18 AM »
especially in the ultra-dumb Canon implementation - see 70-300 IS II. utterly useless that way.

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2018, 07:49:23 AM »
This is probably a "generic" lens image they are using for the patent.

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2018, 10:32:01 AM »
i don't think so in this case. the illustration looks truly Canon butt ugly and dysfunctional, exactly as on 70-300 IS II.


I consider any distance window useless. I want to see that information IN THE VIEWFINDER, not somewhere the lens barrel.  But IF a company insists on putting a useless LCD on an outer lens barrel, then please make it at least look halfway decent. And make the information display at least a bit functional.

useless, ugly and hard to read/interpret = "Canon dysfunctional"


Much better, much easier to interpret, not offensive to the eye = zeiss Batis [that's where Canon saw it first]:


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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2018, 10:34:17 AM »
it is really bonkers that Canon is wasting resources on useless gimmicks like this and then is not even able to make it anywhere near as nice as competition. Why does Canon not put resources into something that would really give them a leg up on competitors. Yes, ofc i am talking about Eye-Controlled AF [ECF] in an upgraded, 2018 ,  high-performance version. :-)

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2018, 12:45:08 PM »
Unrelated to the patent is an image showing an EF-S 18-55 kit lens with what appears to be an LCD display like we have seen on the <a href="https://www.adorama.com/ca70300is2.html?kbid=64393">Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II</a>.</p>

WTF is going on at Canon?  The market is moving to upmarket mirrorless and they are spending limited resources on adding a gimmick to a low end kit lens while they delay thier FF mirrorless.  It's like it's la-la-land at Canon corporate.  Totally out of touch with reality and as dysfunctional as they come.

yes because those same engineers that design lenses are the same people that would work in full frame mirrorless. Canon has like 2 engineers and they work out of some basement in Tokyo.


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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2018, 12:47:07 PM »
it is really bonkers that Canon is wasting resources on useless gimmicks like this and then is not even able to make it anywhere near as nice as competition. Why does Canon not put resources into something that would really give them a leg up on competitors. Yes, ofc i am talking about Eye-Controlled AF [ECF] in an upgraded, 2018 ,  high-performance version. :-)

yes because I'm sure those lens engineers work on eyeAF firmware.  I mean what the bloody heck are you whining about now?

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2018, 12:47:07 PM »

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2018, 12:48:18 PM »
i don't think so in this case. the illustration looks truly Canon butt ugly and dysfunctional, exactly as on 70-300 IS II.

Much better, much easier to interpret, not offensive to the eye = zeiss Batis

yes, i'm sure canon would put the same technology in a 299 kit lens as a 2K zeiss batis.

the oxygen getting a little thin in the AvTvUniverse?

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2018, 12:55:29 PM »
hehe, good to see at least one Canapologist getting into swing. LOL

It is not a matter of price. it is a matter of brains. Even if Canon would use the dirt cheap 1970s style LCD they are using on the 70-300 ... it is the information and how it is presented that really sucks.

What use it is to see the focal length a zoom is at in a lens display window, when you can also see it in on the zoom ring? And it even automatically shows equivalent FF focal length when the lens is used on a Canon crop mirrorslapper. WOW WOW WOW. So utterly senseless and useless ... but the DISTANCE information is in small letters and hard to read. LCD as poorly designed as an analogue, old-school hard-etched distance scale. It was not possible to do it differently in the past, with markings. But IF Canon decides to waste R&D resources on an LCD gimmick, then AT LEST do something USEFUL with it.

Overall: truly CANNOVATIVE!

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2018, 01:07:52 PM »
hehe, good to see at least one Canapologist getting into swing. LOL


you are the first to whine about personal attacks and yet you do this.  hypocrite much?

whining about tech on a 299 or less lens is ridiculous. only you would get offended by such a lens.


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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2018, 01:17:40 PM »
i am talking about Eye-Controlled AF [ECF] in an upgraded, 2018 ,  high-performance version. :-)

It was hard enough to do with a handful of focus points. With the number of focus points you have now the chances of it getting the right point are slim.

Anyway, I think the efforts for intelligent photography are being based more on AI and image analysis for determining what to put into focus, this means mirrorless (or live view mode for you slappers)
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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2018, 02:07:51 PM »
hehe, good to see at least one Canapologist getting into swing. LOL


you are the first to whine about personal attacks and yet you do this.  hypocrite much?

whining about tech on a 299 or less lens is ridiculous. only you would get offended by such a lens.

no. not only me. I bet majority of Canon customers would prefer the 5 bucks wasted on the useless crap LCD would be invested into slightly better coatings ... or a new paint job.  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2018, 02:12:37 PM »
Yet another useless upgrade.

+1. Instead of adding useless LCD display windows to the kit lenses Canon should improve the Image Quality and raise the maximum aperture of them. An EF-S 18-55mm f/2.8-4 IS (ring-type) USM would be much more useful than the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Mark 6. :(

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2018, 04:23:47 PM »
yes because those same engineers that design lenses are the same people that would work in full frame mirrorless. Canon has like 2 engineers and they work out of some basement in Tokyo.
More likely out of some attic loft. Japanese houses don't have basements as a general rule. This makes more sense anyway as clearly it's the heat in the loft that's addled their brains.

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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2018, 06:29:42 AM »
"Dear Canon.

We are so angry that Canon are possibly planning to add a new feature to the kit lens rather than just continue selling the existing one which wasn't that bad to begin with, even though there's no actual proof this is a real product yet.

But we must be angry about something!" 

Signed Forum Dwellers



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Re: Patent: New EF-S 18-55 With an LCD Display?
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