*UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]

[Daniel Flather]

.......I'm so tired of hearing people flip flopping and getting up on their soap box and announcing "Canon loses" or "I'm going to Nikon". How does it REALLY matter?

Hell, the most moving and memorable images burned into the minds of most people on our planet, let's say "Top 100 photos of all time", are most likely ALL film. Taken decades (or longer) ago, on cameras that are laughable compared to ANYTHING we have now. In terms of features, abilities and technology, even usability and reliability. What does that say, truly, about GO.....

Yeah, what s/he said  +1

[wickidwombat]

I'm so tired of hearing people flip flopping and getting up on their soap box and announcing "Canon loses" or "I'm going to Nikon". How does it REALLY matter?

Hell, the most moving and memorable images burned into the minds of most people on our planet, let's say "Top 100 photos of all time", are most likely ALL film. Taken decades (or longer) ago, on cameras that are laughable compared to ANYTHING we have now. In terms of features, abilities and technology, even usability and reliability. What does that say, truly, about GOOD photography that MATTERS?

Are you a photographer, or are you a tech head who actually doesn't REQUIRE any of this because it the D800, 1DX, D4, or digital Hassleblad won't make your images truly any better.





I for one, based on these rumored specs, are OK with the 5D Mark III. Assuming they're even real specs. I make a living off of photography, I do various types. Mostly portraits, some fashion and beauty, and documentary work (along with weddings in the summer months). I also print my work, large, for galleries and clients, on various mediums such as photo paper, canvas and fine art materials (even metal and wood once).

We don't know the DR, we don't know the ISO, and we don't a ton of other stuff, let alone the ACTUAL specs (again, this is a rumor, a CR3'd rumor, but still a rumor).

It's just so hilarious to sit here for days, have a coffee, read through some rumors, see what other photographers are saying about them... you get a few different types of people really. The most comical is the person, on any forum really, who types up a bunch of garbage about switching systems, or being so fed up with the changes, or lack of changes. OK, fine. How in the world is any other camera going to make your photos better? How is getting the 5D3, or NOT, going to make you a better photographer? The D800E, D800, 1Dx, D4? Answer: it won't help.

The reason why, on twitter and other bigger forums, you don't see the seasoned pros or working photographers complaining about much, is because they understand this simple notion. You get caught up in all the gear talk, and all the #s, and it truly, at the end of the day, doesn't mean much. The reason we get new cameras, and want to "upgrade" is because we can, and because sometimes it gives us new tools, and it's fun to have new things that we truly love, like cameras and lenses. But we never should lie to ourselves and say or believe that owning the 5D3, or a PhaseOne, or D4 is going to make us a better photographer.

No one is going to look back on their career, put up a gallery show and say "right here, this is when you can tell I got the 5D3, or switched to the D800, it shows in my work". Blah blah blah.


I don't even believe most of what I read when you have someone boasting about changing sides or "needing" something MORE, MORE MORE! Always MORE!

No one is ever truly happy, right? I say.... I can't wait for what Canon, Nikon or anyone else brings us. If we can properly use any of these tools, then let's go for it, but let's not pretend it means much more.

My 5D2 has been through hell, I bought it the month it was on the market. It's so banged up and wonderfully used. My back up is an old 40D, which I never use, and has had some problems before. I don't trust it. Getting a 5D3, or the 1Dx makes sense for me in a lot of ways, but I'm not going to pretend it is going to make me a better photographer, or make my work more accessible to clients or galleries.

Great first post, Its interesting to see how many people registered for the sole reason of complaining and telling us all that they are going to change to blah blah blah

All over a Rumour, A CR3 rumour mind you but still.

I think apple should make the next iphone 50MP just for shits and giggles. Now can you imagine all the twisted panties THAT would cause.

I keep think back to that post about the hassleblad awards and how god awefull most of that stuff was. It really goes to show, having a Hassleblad doesn't give the operator a sense of good taste or the ability to take good photos. Hell I rate most of the photos posted here by people shooting with rebels as better than most of the shots that made finalists or winners in that competition.

Make no mistake there will be plety of horrible pictures taken with D800s and with 5Dmk3s D4s and 1Dx and no doubt there will also be some spectacular shots taken with all of those too.

Relax take a tranquiliser or six and wait for the announcement and some actual information / sample images or the ability to actually test it out.

For me I'll probably pre-order 1 of the new 5D as I really dislike the 5D2 AF that much but i'll keep a 5D2 for use with my Manual focus lenses as it still and always will produce excellent images. And continue to keep an eye on used 1Dmk4 prices and if a good deal comes up for one of them i'll jump on it.

[SandyP]

Haha yes.

For the right type of person, a new tool gives them new ways to work their already existing magic (or not so magic) photography skills. But at the same time, no camera in the world is going to make your photos better. People seem to get so hung up on the wrong aspects of photography. The parts that do not matter.

I'm excited about the Canon 5D Mark III, it may never be "perfect", but what does that really matter.

Anyways...... oh, and for the record, I'm a guy. Ha. Sandy is short/nick name for someone who has Alexander as a name. Which I do. I live in Canada, but my family goes back to Scotland for it's roots. So that's why.

[awinphoto]

Canadian Canon Vendors had a meeting today (Feb 23).  The new 5D will be available in stores at the end of March 2012  in Canada at $3,800 with a lense (do not know which one).

How credible is your source?

[Daniel Flather]

Sandy is short/nick name for someone who has Alexander as a name.

Ah, did not know that.  I'm in Canada too, hi.   

[tt]

Canadian Canon Vendors had a meeting today (Feb 23).  The new 5D will be available in stores at the end of March 2012  in Canada at $3,800 with a lense (do not know which one).

How credible is your source?

From what I've heard, Canon UK were having meetings today, so other countries having meetings fits. Not sure about UK availability beyond that it's hopefully going to be known by next weekend.

[jalbfb]

I'm so tired of hearing people flip flopping and getting up on their soap box and announcing "Canon loses" or "I'm going to Nikon". How does it REALLY matter?

Hell, the most moving and memorable images burned into the minds of most people on our planet, let's say "Top 100 photos of all time", are most likely ALL film. Taken decades (or longer) ago, on cameras that are laughable compared to ANYTHING we have now. In terms of features, abilities and technology, even usability and reliability. What does that say, truly, about GOOD photography that MATTERS?

Are you a photographer, or are you a tech head who actually doesn't REQUIRE any of this because it the D800, 1DX, D4, or digital Hassleblad won't make your images truly any better.





I for one, based on these rumored specs, are OK with the 5D Mark III. Assuming they're even real specs. I make a living off of photography, I do various types. Mostly portraits, some fashion and beauty, and documentary work (along with weddings in the summer months). I also print my work, large, for galleries and clients, on various mediums such as photo paper, canvas and fine art materials (even metal and wood once).

We don't know the DR, we don't know the ISO, and we don't a ton of other stuff, let alone the ACTUAL specs (again, this is a rumor, a CR3'd rumor, but still a rumor).

It's just so hilarious to sit here for days, have a coffee, read through some rumors, see what other photographers are saying about them... you get a few different types of people really. The most comical is the person, on any forum really, who types up a bunch of garbage about switching systems, or being so fed up with the changes, or lack of changes. OK, fine. How in the world is any other camera going to make your photos better? How is getting the 5D3, or NOT, going to make you a better photographer? The D800E, D800, 1Dx, D4? Answer: it won't help.

The reason why, on twitter and other bigger forums, you don't see the seasoned pros or working photographers complaining about much, is because they understand this simple notion. You get caught up in all the gear talk, and all the #s, and it truly, at the end of the day, doesn't mean much. The reason we get new cameras, and want to "upgrade" is because we can, and because sometimes it gives us new tools, and it's fun to have new things that we truly love, like cameras and lenses. But we never should lie to ourselves and say or believe that owning the 5D3, or a PhaseOne, or D4 is going to make us a better photographer.

No one is going to look back on their career, put up a gallery show and say "right here, this is when you can tell I got the 5D3, or switched to the D800, it shows in my work". Blah blah blah.


I don't even believe most of what I read when you have someone boasting about changing sides or "needing" something MORE, MORE MORE! Always MORE!

No one is ever truly happy, right? I say.... I can't wait for what Canon, Nikon or anyone else brings us. If we can properly use any of these tools, then let's go for it, but let's not pretend it means much more.

My 5D2 has been through hell, I bought it the month it was on the market. It's so banged up and wonderfully used. My back up is an old 40D, which I never use, and has had some problems before. I don't trust it. Getting a 5D3, or the 1Dx makes sense for me in a lot of ways, but I'm not going to pretend it is going to make me a better photographer, or make my work more accessible to clients or galleries.

Another vote for "beautifully said." It's hard, but the reality is we'll just have to wait 4 more days and we'll see the real specs, then wait some more while those who have been road testing this model will give us their impressions.  Ultimately, I'll be waiting for the actual release of the camera and the early reviews and then decide.

[SandyP]

Canada, yes! Yay. Haha.

I'm exciting, I know that I want a new camera to accompany my 5D Mark 2, and I want to make the "best" possible choice I can. The 1Dx seems great, but the 5D Mark 3 might be the best choice, depending on what it can really do. No rumors, no he said she said. Just facts. I'm excited either way!

[CowGummy]

I'm so tired of hearing people flip flopping and getting up on their soap box and announcing "Canon loses" or "I'm going to Nikon". How does it REALLY matter?

Hell, the most moving and memorable images burned into the minds of most people on our planet, let's say "Top 100 photos of all time", are most likely ALL film. Taken decades (or longer) ago, on cameras that are laughable compared to ANYTHING we have now. In terms of features, abilities and technology, even usability and reliability. What does that say, truly, about GOOD photography that MATTERS?

Are you a photographer, or are you a tech head who actually doesn't REQUIRE any of this because it the D800, 1DX, D4, or digital Hassleblad won't make your images truly any better.





I for one, based on these rumored specs, are OK with the 5D Mark III. Assuming they're even real specs. I make a living off of photography, I do various types. Mostly portraits, some fashion and beauty, and documentary work (along with weddings in the summer months). I also print my work, large, for galleries and clients, on various mediums such as photo paper, canvas and fine art materials (even metal and wood once).

We don't know the DR, we don't know the ISO, and we don't a ton of other stuff, let alone the ACTUAL specs (again, this is a rumor, a CR3'd rumor, but still a rumor).

It's just so hilarious to sit here for days, have a coffee, read through some rumors, see what other photographers are saying about them... you get a few different types of people really. The most comical is the person, on any forum really, who types up a bunch of garbage about switching systems, or being so fed up with the changes, or lack of changes. OK, fine. How in the world is any other camera going to make your photos better? How is getting the 5D3, or NOT, going to make you a better photographer? The D800E, D800, 1Dx, D4? Answer: it won't help.

The reason why, on twitter and other bigger forums, you don't see the seasoned pros or working photographers complaining about much, is because they understand this simple notion. You get caught up in all the gear talk, and all the #s, and it truly, at the end of the day, doesn't mean much. The reason we get new cameras, and want to "upgrade" is because we can, and because sometimes it gives us new tools, and it's fun to have new things that we truly love, like cameras and lenses. But we never should lie to ourselves and say or believe that owning the 5D3, or a PhaseOne, or D4 is going to make us a better photographer.

No one is going to look back on their career, put up a gallery show and say "right here, this is when you can tell I got the 5D3, or switched to the D800, it shows in my work". Blah blah blah.


I don't even believe most of what I read when you have someone boasting about changing sides or "needing" something MORE, MORE MORE! Always MORE!

No one is ever truly happy, right? I say.... I can't wait for what Canon, Nikon or anyone else brings us. If we can properly use any of these tools, then let's go for it, but let's not pretend it means much more.

My 5D2 has been through hell, I bought it the month it was on the market. It's so banged up and wonderfully used. My back up is an old 40D, which I never use, and has had some problems before. I don't trust it. Getting a 5D3, or the 1Dx makes sense for me in a lot of ways, but I'm not going to pretend it is going to make me a better photographer, or make my work more accessible to clients or galleries.

Awesome post! I think you may be my new hero on this forum.

[Daniel Flather]

Canada, yes! Yay. Haha.

I'm exciting, I know that I want a new camera to accompany my 5D Mark 2, and I want to make the "best" possible choice I can. The 1Dx seems great, but the 5D Mark 3 might be the best choice, depending on what it can really do. No rumors, no he said she said. Just facts. I'm excited either way!

Me too, I'm on a 50D so the 5d3 will be an exciting change for me.  Add to this I've been waiting for this camera for a long time.

[Grum]

Another +1 for Sandy P's post. Some of the hysterical whining in his thread is amazing I bet most of those people spend a lot more time arguing about specs (that arent even confirmed) than they do taking pictures. I also bet none of them ever have a real need for 36MP, they just don't want to feel inadequate.

I think the 5D III will be too expensive for me to justify for a little while yet but otherwise it seems perfect to me.

[briansquibb]

Another +1 for Sandy P's post. Some of the hysterical whining in his thread is amazing I bet most of those people spend a lot more time arguing about specs (that arent even confirmed) than they do taking pictures. I also bet none of them ever have a real need for 36MP, they just don't want to feel inadequate.

I think the 5D III will be too expensive for me to justify for a little while yet but otherwise it seems perfect to me.

I have spent all day at a Dickens themed location working out a series of shots for all their photo requirements

Looks like all the flashes wil be used - plus I have a reason to  get the 8-15 fisheye. I find it amusing to see people threatening to mov to the dark side or NEX 7 because of some invisible improvement in IQ. The largest poster I am required to produce is A2 with a bunch of A4 posters and some website pics.

If an upgrade to the 5D3 could help with the flash placement I would buy one tomorrow

[pachelbelscanon5d]

I'm also really excited for this camera.  I've recently started making a (full-time) living doing photography and my old 5dmii (which I love) could use a "big" brother. 

I agree - OF COURSE - that 78% of photography is the user, but sometimes exciting technology can really help.  Specifically, great AF and great low light performance.  If this camera can replicate the new 1DX AF (or even come close, really), and take usable pictures in the ISO 6400 range I'll be thrilled.  Great video and fast fps would be awesome too (but I can live with just incremental mark ii improvements here). 

I will say however, that this price tag is surely not accurate.  It's like buying a Honda Civic for $19,000.  It's just not gonna happen (I know that the 5diii is more than just the "honda civic of cameras", but bare with me...). I would be willing to take wagers with people that this camera is closer to $3000 than $3500 when it hits.  I'll say $3199, tops.   UNLESS it has something really tricky up it's sleeve.   It's not that $3500 is too much to pay for a camera of this caliber, it's just that the D800 is competing DIRECTLY against it (in marketing at least).  I honestly think the big "trick" will be that the video is going to be incredible.  Like it or not, Canon moves a lot of product based on it's indy film market.  If this thing had Magic Lantern controls and better-than-5dmii performance out of the box it would destroy the competition.  Nikon hasn't excited filmmakers since the D90 way back in the day, and that was a flop as soon as Canon released their slew of 1080p DSLRs.   

Just my thoughts.  I know many people that are waiting for this camera to start filming paid video work (indy films, weddings, commercials).  Either way, I'm sure this camera is going to be awesome.  I can't wait for those "official" Canon release pictures.  Remember the 7D focusing brochure?  That was great.   

[Gravitom]

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I think this is a silly post.  Of course all of that is true but this is a site for people who obsess about RUMORED camera specs.  Obviously we are concerned with the technical aspects of new cameras.  Some of us are great photographers and some of us are terrible ones with more camera then they need.  Being concerned about getting the features you want at a good price doesn't make you one or the other.

[fotoray]

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I think this is a silly post.  Of course all of that is true but this is a site for people who obsess about RUMORED camera specs.  Obviously we are concerned with the technical aspects of new cameras.  Some of us are great photographers and some of us are terrible ones with more camera then they need.  Being concerned about getting the features you want at a good price doesn't make you one or the other.

Silly? Really?   It's at 28 pages now.  Is great interest silly?  Really.