5D Mark III Full Spec List?

[RazorTM]

I haven't read through the whole thread so forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been addressed.  But is anyone else curious as to the purpose of the CR1616 battery listed in the box contents?  That's a nickle-sized, flat disc type battery.

For date/time functions to keep running when you are charging your batteries

Boy, don't I feel stupid    I've been shooting with a 5DMKII that I bought new a year ago and I swear I don't remember seeing or installing this battery.  But I just looked in the manual and sure enough, there it is on page 217.  Did this come factory installed on the Mark II?

Yes.

[Abraxx]

Couple of things......

1) Anyone notice the Digic 5+ in the specs?? <------  notice the "+"  What's the "+" for compared to the two Digic 5's in the 1Dx?

The Powershots also have the Digic 5, but the 1Dx has Dual Digic 5+, the 5diii has single Digic 5+ I am happy for a single Digic processor for the main Camera (lets the magic lantern guys do some magic on the 5d3 as well, they could never on the dual digics of the 7d).

+1
The single chip could lead to very promising enhancements

[phischeye]

The file formats list does not include JPG. That's interesting

[Blaze]

Currently I fail to see any magic in this camera, just as usual Canon's crippled update, whereas the price seems to indicate premium qualities.

In that sense Nikon has clear and understandable distinction - full package in all FF cameras targeting different auditoriums, against Canon's very expensive and crippled expensive option.

What exactly do you think is crippled about this? These specs look much more appealing to me than the Nikon D800.

[Himanshu]

All right people. I really need an honest opinion here. I was shooting Nikon D5100 up till now and was hoping to upgrade to full frame by the end of this year.
To begin with, I had both the D800 and the 5D Mark 3 on my wish list. I mean I really don't have a huge investment in terms of the lenses, and I'll always get some return when I sell of my present gear (In case I decide to go with canon).
I need opinion on this because if I do go with canon on the mark 3, then i'll also get L lenses, and the investment then is going to be substantial. So its going to be a long term commitment. And the tech guide on the D800 kinda scared me a bit with all the chatter involving image blur with the slightest movement because of the "high resolution". And I'm also not sure about its iso performance in comparison to the D700.
Suggestions please guys..?? What would be a better camera for me. I mean we cant really say much until both the cameras are out and have been thoroughly reviewed. But going by the spec list...?? Which way should I go..??

Well, you ARE asking this question on a Canon site so you can expect a lot of votes for Canon.  When I was deciding which brand to go with (I had had a Nikon film camera and lenses in the distant past) I ultimately decided on Canon because of its lenses.  Since gong Canon I have not been disappointed.  Plus a significant factor for me, believe it or not, was the menu system, which I find easier to navigate through than Nikon's and especially the three custom setting dials.  Now that it appears that the Mark III will have the multiple exposure capability that higher end Nikon's have makes the choice of Canon even stronger IMHO

Yes, canon does seem to have a more versatile lens line up with their L lenses. Besides, the more i read about the D800, the more i feel that its more of a 'specific purpose' kind of a camera. It just doesnt give that 'all round' camera feel.
I just hope canon delivers the "unsurpassed image quality" they are promising. It will just make so much easier for me to decide.
Thank you so much for the input by the way 

PS: I posted it here and not on nikon rumors because people over there are quite rude. They insult you for not knowing anything before they actually tell you something. Admin spends quite some time deleting those posts I think. I like nikon cameras, i just hope their shooters would be a little polite 

[Daniel Flather]

I haven't read through the whole thread so forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been addressed.  But is anyone else curious as to the purpose of the CR1616 battery listed in the box contents?  That's a nickle-sized, flat disc type battery.

A CR1616 battery is 16mm in diameter and 1.6mm thick (nominal sizes of course).  A CR2032 is 20mm across and 3.2mm  thick, and so forth for all 3.0v lithium batteries.  CR1025, CR1216, CR1220, CR1225, CR1616, CR1620, CR1632, CR2016, CR2025, CR2032, CR2320, CR2325, and CR2430.

OK, so it's dime size.  Didn't have one in front of me to measure.  Just looked at photo of it when I googled CR1616.

Just a little info.

Yeah, it's all good.  Just letting people know how lithium CR battery numbers correlate to the battery's physical size. 

[DramaMask]

I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, but of course it could be that I'm just too slow of a reader to keep up. The 22 MP is exactly what you would need for 3 x 3 down sampeling to 1920 x 1080 (HD) resolution.

1920 x 1080 converted to 3:2 ratio makes 1920 x 1280. 1920 x 3 = 5760. 1280 x 3 = 3840. This comes to a resolution of 5720 x 3840, which is 22 megapixels.

Everyone always seems to talk about 2x2 binning and 4x4 binning. Well, Canon seems to have made this sensor specifically for 3x3 binning of HD video.

[Canihaspicture]

There seems to be a lot of fanboys in this thread... hardware wise how much better really do you feel this is than the 5D mark II besides the DIGIC 5 (which handles the high iso and framerate) and the small increase in MP by the sensor?  If you pretend that this camera wasn't from Canon would you still feel the same way?

[Daniel Flather]

So if the native ISO is 2 stops higher then the D800s, what do we think this means in practice?

really? what do you think it means? we can take cleaner pictures is lower light.

I'd guess he means what do you think it will mean to ISO performance at the settings the D800 and the 5D mk3 will share.

How on earth can anyone tell this from a spec list? It could mean that  the 5D MkIII sensor is  two whole stops more sensitive than the D800, or it could just be marketing blah blah.  The proof of the pudding is in the eating and I think that we'll have to wait a few more weeks/months yet for the side by side comparisons, my guess is that you may get an extra stop.

It does not mean that it's 2 stops better than the D800 because that would require something beyond 100% QE.
It is for sure just marketing.

Yes, Canon can make the native ISO as high as you want, that does not mean you'll like its performance.

[awinphoto]

I haven't read through the whole thread so forgive me if I'm asking something that has already been addressed.  But is anyone else curious as to the purpose of the CR1616 battery listed in the box contents?  That's a nickle-sized, flat disc type battery.

For date/time functions to keep running when you are charging your batteries

Boy, don't I feel stupid    I've been shooting with a 5DMKII that I bought new a year ago and I swear I don't remember seeing or installing this battery.  But I just looked in the manual and sure enough, there it is on page 217.  Did this come factory installed on the Mark II?

Typically it's preinstalled but is user replaceable.  I think on my first 10D we had to install it but ever since then it's been preinstalled. 

[canoneos]

I don't see the spec for the fastest flash synch speed. On the 5D mark II it was 1/200s. I hope it has been increased to 1/250s/1

[D.Sim]

There seems to be a lot of fanboys in this thread... hardware wise how much better really do you feel this is than the 5D mark II besides the DIGIC 5 (which handles the high iso and framerate) and the small increase in MP by the sensor?  If you pretend that this camera wasn't from Canon would you still feel the same way?

Not everyone wants megapixels.

[Mappy]

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4. HD Movie. From what i understand the 22 MP count was to help in the video mode. I am not sure how that helps because 1080P at 16:9 is 2.073 MP. For a strict 4:1 super scale, you need 8.29 MP. So not sure how a 22 MP is better for video than a 18MP sensor. There is no sensor photo site scaling and so in terms of resolution etc, both will be the same.
[...]

3*3 sampling would get you to 22MP. The math:
1920*1080 video, but the sensor is 3:2, not 16:9, so you would need 1920*1280 (1920/3*2=1280)
1920*3*1280*3=22.12Mpixels

[awinphoto]

Currently I fail to see any magic in this camera, just as usual Canon's crippled update, whereas the price seems to indicate premium qualities.

In that sense Nikon has clear and understandable distinction - full package in all FF cameras targeting different auditoriums, against Canon's very expensive and crippled expensive option.

What exactly do you think is crippled about this? These specs look much more appealing to me than the Nikon D800.

Exactly... granted it can still change up until it's release, but other than MP, what does the D800 have that the 5d3 (rumored) doesn't have that has been confirmed?  ISO even wins (theoretically until tested) which is a first for canon. 

[drozz]

I cant remember right now, and I see the mk3 is rumored to have a more narrow range of ISO in video-mode.
Can anybody tell me what the ISO range (in video mode) is on the 5Dmk2?  I dont have it nearby just now.

I never thought canon would release the 24p firmware. But they did.
Personally I saw it as proof that Canon listens to their customers and work hard to satisfy.
Magic Lantern has done wonders with the first generation of video EOS.
I know it might be unrealistic, but I seriously hope either canon or Trammell Hudson will get the 5D mk3 to run not only 1080p/60 but also 720/120. A dream would be 1080p/120.
Just let me have my hopes
I could deal with a sacrifice in bitrate just to make the digic 5+ pump out 120fps in 720p or higher resolution.

Question; Will the Digic 5+ have an easier job downsampling to 1080p (with less moire) when the  new resolution is supposedly the magic number for 3x3 oversampling? Does it mean less processing IQ-wize?

Ive had the old Casio Exilim Ex-F1 for many years now, and that opened up hopes for me. Still havent seen anything remotely close to that in that price range. Sadly the bitrates and resolutions are too low on that cam.
The pricegap is far from the exilim-f1 up to cameras that do the same framerates in better quality, which has had me on edge ever since whenever pretty much any brand releases a new cam.

I'd love a 60@1080, 120@720.. But I'm doubtful that the digic 5+ could handle it.  I'm guessing 48 @ 1080 and 96 @ 720.