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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #210 on: August 18, 2012, 05:02:24 PM »
The main advantage I see with the 5D3 over the 5D2 is the auto ISO in manual mode and this has really made it more of a sports camera now than just a wedding/portrait camera.  You can now shoot sports with spot metering with a fixed aperture and minimum shutter speed.  This would be unheard of with a 5D2.

... of course Canon is just catching up with the crop cameras 60d, 7d etc there - I'm sure all upcoming Canon dslrs will have it.

The AF sensor issue you talk about is true, don't get me wrong, but there are far less total AF points on the 60D and 5D2 that those cameras don't really factor into serious sports shooters' thoughts.

Absolutely, the 60d just sucks at servo af, zero customization and little number of af points - but for amateur sports shooting many people will get a 7d due to the crop factor (= cheaper lenses), and pros probably will use the 1dx (faster, more precise af than 5d3) or 1d4 (1.3x crop). That's why I don't have the 5d3 in mind as a "sports" camera at all, but of course it's very usable for this purpose.

My point is this.  If we would see a 6D or something come out, it is very difficult to predict what type of camera it will be.

The 6d will be placed as a Nikon d600 competition and as a more modern 5d2 replacement. And there will be a 6d, because it is a real novelty to keep the predecessor 5d2 alive alongside the successor. And Canon won't get away with their cheapest ff body priced as the 5d3 is now, the market pressure from below is just too high: If you can get very cheap bodies with the current 18mp aps-c sensor, only a few bird or budget sports shooters would buy a updated premium aps-c body.

Given that, imho the 6d won't be a surprise: 5d3 sensor, less sturdy body, slower fps, single card, less af points & cut servo af firmware, maybe swivel screen and no joystick but a multicontroller like on the 60d. And a lot of tiny hidden annoyances placed there by Canon marketing to make you with for a 5d3 :-o ... but anyway for under $2000, it'll sell just fine.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #210 on: August 18, 2012, 05:02:24 PM »

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #211 on: August 18, 2012, 06:23:36 PM »
Calumet.nl has it for € 2700 now.

2999  now  >:(

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #212 on: August 20, 2012, 01:13:40 AM »
I've seen a few Mark III's for sale on Craigslist in my area over the last month or two.  Typical asking price is $3200 USD. 

The 24-105 from the kit is also a frequent item on Craigslist, usually for $900 USD.

Looks like some buyers may have decided that it wasn't worth the money.
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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #213 on: August 20, 2012, 02:46:21 AM »
Calumet.nl has it for € 2700 now.
2999  now  >:(

Any price drop probably won't reach the Euro-Countries because of the currently weak currency...

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #214 on: August 20, 2012, 06:58:47 AM »
Calumet.nl has it for € 2700 now.
2999  now  >:(

Any price drop probably won't reach the Euro-Countries because of the currently weak currency...
It was 2700 euro last week. So it probably has to do with the specific batch. Or they simply decided they were selling too cheap. Anyway I have 5DII and I am mostly interested in landscape photography so no rush to get 5DIII. 

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #215 on: August 31, 2012, 02:34:15 PM »
Calumet.nl has it for € 2700 now.
2999  now  >:(

Any price drop probably won't reach the Euro-Countries because of the currently weak currency...
It was 2700 euro last week. So it probably has to do with the specific batch. Or they simply decided they were selling too cheap. Anyway I have 5DII and I am mostly interested in landscape photography so no rush to get 5DIII.

I got mine in Finland at Stockmann for €2899:
https://stockmann.com/p/sv/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-digital-systemkamera/298460?itemId=298461

There is also Verkkokauppa.com who got both body and kit:
Body €2899,99:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/56956/dgbvb/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-digijarjestelmakamera-runko
Kit: €3899
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/14609/dgcdd/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-EF-24-105mm-4L-IS-USM

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Both these seems to be pretty good prices compared to other european places...
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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #216 on: October 29, 2012, 03:23:45 PM »
There were a lot of posts initially on this thread saying that it would be years before the 5DmIII went below $3000. And conventional wisdom would agree with that prediction, but here we are a few months later and the camera is under $3k. It hasn't even been a year.

Crazy. I'll probably need one in a year or two when my 5DmII shows its age. I wonder how much it'll be by then. Who knows maybe $2400 or less :)

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #216 on: October 29, 2012, 03:23:45 PM »

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #217 on: October 29, 2012, 04:11:26 PM »
Here are my predictions:

$2999 this Christmas
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i don't think this can happen.  ...

i don't think you'll see this camera sell for less than 3k until the mark iv comes out.

Well, it happened already ... just seven months after the 5DIII was introduced.

(And I was spot on, btw    ;D 8) ).

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #218 on: October 29, 2012, 05:02:31 PM »
Calumet.nl has it for € 2700 now.
2999  now  >:(

Any price drop probably won't reach the Euro-Countries because of the currently weak currency...

Which weak currency? Not the Euro, @ 103 Yen it is up +2.9% on the month, +6.6% over the last 3m and +3.5% year-to-date, the € is also up +5% vis-a-vis the US$ over the last 3-months and flat YTD @ $1.29

A stronger Euro explains the big price drop in French discount electronic goods stores recently. (Euro appreciation = lower prices for Canon products, which is the case now).

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #219 on: October 30, 2012, 01:59:50 PM »
I think one of the main reasons of the price drop is to be more competitive with the D800.  I was surprised it was $500 more (didn't stop me from pre-ordering one) but I think Canon may have realized people were actually contemplating switching brands over it and sales may have been slower than predicted.  I'd be surprised to see it drop any significant amount from this point.  Usually with the holiday rebates you see the stores raise their prices a little bit to account for rebates should Canon have a rebate on the MIII but I think this is something Canon requires the retailers to do.  Reason I say that is one of the major retailers explained it a year ago and said that Canon had guide lines in place and if you wanted to participate in the rebate program then your prices had to be a certain amount.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #220 on: October 30, 2012, 02:21:20 PM »
Is the price drop really from Canon, or is it from retailers? I would be really curious to know whether Canon themselves is actually getting less per unit with recent drops to $3100 and $2900 and such, or whether it is simply that the initial 5D III Feaver has warn off? That all the pre-orders and early buyers who were anticipating the 5D III for years and were going to get one regardless are now done, and now retailers are trying to attract the more careful, price-wary buyers? Canon doesn't get $3500 a pop for each 5D III sold...they get something in the mid $2000 range. It is the retailers who are trying to build sales...and I assume that for all the prices down to the low of around $2700 I saw recently, they are still making a profit...as is Canon.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #221 on: October 30, 2012, 03:06:12 PM »
Canon has MAP on the MKIII, right?  Therefore this must be at least approved by Canon.  All previous deals to be had were forced to go through channels outside of the MAP agreement.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #222 on: October 30, 2012, 03:15:36 PM »
It's possible that Canon stopped enforcing the MAP after the recent eBay deals. That seems pretty unprecedented for a high-end camera so soon after launch.

Canon has MAP on the MKIII, right?  Therefore this must be at least approved by Canon.  All previous deals to be had were forced to go through channels outside of the MAP agreement.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #222 on: October 30, 2012, 03:15:36 PM »

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #223 on: October 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM »
Is the price drop really from Canon, or is it from retailers? I would be really curious to know whether Canon themselves is actually getting less per unit with recent drops to $3100 and $2900 and such, or whether it is simply that the initial 5D III Feaver has warn off? That all the pre-orders and early buyers who were anticipating the 5D III for years and were going to get one regardless are now done, and now retailers are trying to attract the more careful, price-wary buyers? Canon doesn't get $3500 a pop for each 5D III sold...they get something in the mid $2000 range. It is the retailers who are trying to build sales...and I assume that for all the prices down to the low of around $2700 I saw recently, they are still making a profit...as is Canon.

I got my 5dIII for 2500EUR from a small shop. If you substract the sales tax of 19% you are at 2025EUR. The shop wants to earn something as well as the distributor. So my guess is that canon is getting something in the mid 1000EUR/$ (because EUR=$ for some unknown reason) range.

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Re: Canon 5D Mark III - Price Drop Details
« Reply #223 on: October 30, 2012, 03:20:38 PM »