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"Walkaround" prime for FF?
« on: March 10, 2012, 03:19:07 PM »
I'm upgrading to the 5dmkIII soon, and I have never used any FF cameras before. I already have the 24-105mm for general walkaround stuff, but I sure do need some prime for more creative shots with shallower DoF and a nice bokeh, not to mention low light situations. Which fixed lens would you recommend for walkaround purposes? I have heard that 50mm lenses fill that niche, but I'm interested in the opinion of CR's community.

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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 03:45:45 PM »
50mm is great and versatile on full-frame. The Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 is a very good value lens. Build quality is decent enough, full-time manual focus adjustments are enabled... Very sharp from f/2 onwards, and gives a slightly "dreamy" look at its widest aperture. It may actually appeal to you! :-)

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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 04:27:47 PM »
Ask some old person (like me) what lens did they want/buy when they got a new 35mm film body (that's Full Frame)?

Probably 49 out of 50 will say the 50mm f/1.4. It was considered to be the "Normal" lens focal length and everyone wanted the 1.4 rather than the 1.8/1.9/2.0 that was offered at a lower price.

It's still the best "walk around" "prime."
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2012, 04:40:26 PM »
I'd go for the Sigma 1.4 rather than the canon 1.4. Its clearly better in terms of sharpness and bokeh! I have also now the 50 1.2, but its not as sharp as the sigma. The reason why I bought it is the even better bokeh and the weather sealing. so my personal rating for good walkaround primes is: 50 1.8, 50 1.4 canon, 50 1.4 sigma, (35 1.4, both on crop or full frame if you like a wider angle) and last the 50 1.2, I have the 3 last I meantioned and I'm really happy, although my sigma has to go now....
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2012, 05:20:00 PM »
I'm upgrading to the 5dmkIII soon, and I have never used any FF cameras before. I already have the 24-105mm for general walkaround stuff, but I sure do need some prime for more creative shots with shallower DoF and a nice bokeh, not to mention low light situations. Which fixed lens would you recommend for walkaround purposes? I have heard that 50mm lenses fill that niche, but I'm interested in the opinion of CR's community.

Thank you!

The 50mm focal length is very versatile -- so if you want to glue a prime to your camera and photograph several different types of subject matter, that's a nice go-to lens. I'd recommend getting a 50mm f/1.4. Besides being very versatile, it's great in low light because being a shorter lens it only needs about 1/50s shutter speed, and at f/1.4 it usually can get it (especially on a full frame body which can handle high ISOs gracefully)

You could also consider 35mm or 85mm lenses. If you're always using the 24-105 lens at 24mm on your APS-C, then 35mm might be a good fit. If it looks like you're using the mid to long part of the range (50-105mm), an 85mm might be a better fit.

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2012, 06:26:52 PM »
I used the 50/1.4 for a long time, it's a great lens and for the price you can't go wrong with it.  I'm finding my ZE 35/2.0 is ending up on my body most of the time now, It's a lot more versatile.  It costs more than the 50, but is razor sharp with nice bokeh and a unique draw style.  I prefer it to the 35L, and it's quite a bit cheaper than that one to boot.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 06:29:37 PM »
I used the 50/1.4 for a long time, it's a great lens and for the price you can't go wrong with it.  I'm finding my ZE 35/2.0 is ending up on my body most of the time now, It's a lot more versatile.  It costs more than the 50, but is razor sharp with nice bokeh and a unique draw style.  I prefer it to the 35L, and it's quite a bit cheaper than that one to boot.

Yeah, except it is manual focus only, and the 5D3 doesn't have interchangable focus screens.   

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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 06:34:54 PM »
I'd suggest the FL 55 f/1.2 with an EdMika adapter, probably $3-400 all up, but it doesn't work on a 5D2, but does work on the 1Ds-series. Remains to be seen if it'll work on the 5D3 or 1DX.

My Asahi Pentax Takumar 50 f/1.4 is also a great fast normal prime, $100 or less shipped, they're fairly common. Great colours and sharp as all hell after f/2.

But both of them are MF-only, and the 5D3 doesn't have changeable focussing screens. If you're shooting street you can always f/8 and Hyperfocal, set it to M on 1/100 or so and auto-iso, the 5D3 looks clean up to iso 6k or so, you should get great images that way.


Or with Autofocuses, it's the Nifty Fifty f/1.8 II or 50 f/1.4, the 1.8 is sharp stopped down but built like a toy, the 1.4 is badly in need of an upgrade which should happen this year (which we've all been saying for the last 5 years). Never used the Sigmas, from what I hear they're sharper than the canons, but the autofocus is iffy...
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 06:37:21 PM »
Yeah, except it is manual focus only, and the 5D3 doesn't have interchangable focus screens.

There's always live-view, 5x or 10x focussing if your subject is still enough.
f/8 hyperfocal for street doesn't need a focussing screen, or even a viewfinder.
Or just wait until KatzEye makes a split-prism screen for it, won't be too many months after release.

All depends on shooting style, MF is good for street, kids running around you'll need the best AF you can get...
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2012, 08:38:04 PM »
I use the 35mm f2 sometimes as walkaround. Very small. The 50mm f1.4 has better quality, but in small arresta isn't wide enough
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 09:33:40 PM »
I recommend the Canon 50mm f1.2L.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2012, 09:48:22 PM »
The 50 1.4 as people have said. The sigma is a better lens than the canon equivalent.

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2012, 10:40:16 PM »
For FF I (as many others do) prefer the 50mm focal length. For me, it's the "classical" choice because it is so versatile and what was attached to my first 35mm film setup. It gives a very natural view which is just a tad longer than what the human eye sees. The Canon 50mm f/1.4 is great, but because I wanted a unique 50 and didn't mind manually focusing, I bought the Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 and fell in love with the beast. Solid and killer IQ. My 50s remain on my bodies 90% of the time.
Another walk-around option would be a 35mm lens. I love the Canon 35mm f/1.4 L, even though it's a little large. It gives just a bit wider of a view but still allows versatility.

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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 11:22:29 PM »
If I only had 1 prime lens, it would be the 24mm.
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Re: "Walkaround" prime for FF?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 11:30:45 PM »
If I only had 1 prime lens, it would be the 24mm.

Why would you pick the 24mm?
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