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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #330 on: June 24, 2012, 04:58:46 AM »
I like what Canon did by making it more of an "all-round" DSLR as is it gives more versatility. Other areas of photography might become more relevant in a year and having the 5D Mark III which is strong in so many areas will be of big benefit.

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« Reply #331 on: June 24, 2012, 05:54:20 AM »
I like what Canon did by making it more of an "all-round" DSLR as is it gives more versatility. Other areas of photography might become more relevant in a year and having the 5D Mark III which is strong in so many areas will be of big benefit.

The 5DIII is certainly very tempting. If only I could get my PW to work I would be very tempted indeed

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #332 on: June 24, 2012, 08:31:29 AM »
Canon 5d III is by far more versatile
Canon is still the better system
It is better at sports
Price is dropping fast and is close to 3000 euro now in the netherlands so price is not an issue anymore
Filesize is great. Bigger is only a pain in the ass.
Canon builds its own sensors where Nikon gets its sensors from the enemy which makes them very dependend.

Go take pictures and stop moaning pls


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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #333 on: June 27, 2012, 02:47:38 PM »
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/18/rumor-second-nikon-d800-firmware-update-coming-out-soon.aspx/#more-40884

http://testcams.com/blog/2012/06/20/nikon-d800-left-autofocus-point-issue/

Anybody else happy with how their Canon is focusing??

Nikon D800 left autofocus points defect

This apparently is quite an issue. Light leak issue macro magnified. It doesn't just affect a certain smaller genre style photographer.

Just read the comments in these threads.. by Nikon shooters/owners... gotta empathize with them..
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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #334 on: June 27, 2012, 02:53:45 PM »
Price is dropping fast and is close to 3000 euro now in the netherlands so price is not an issue anymore

Where do you get this prize from? In Germany, it's no less than €3250, didn't drop a cent since release - obviously they're still serving back-orders and there's no competition yet.

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #335 on: June 27, 2012, 08:09:23 PM »
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/18/rumor-second-nikon-d800-firmware-update-coming-out-soon.aspx/#more-40884

http://testcams.com/blog/2012/06/20/nikon-d800-left-autofocus-point-issue/

Anybody else happy with how their Canon is focusing??

Nikon D800 left autofocus points defect

This apparently is quite an issue. Light leak issue macro magnified. It doesn't just affect a certain smaller genre style photographer.

Just read the comments in these threads.. by Nikon shooters/owners... gotta empathize with them..

it is interesting because I'm having no such problems, and neither seem most nikon guys in forums. One wonders how much of an issue it really is since as usual the internet magnifies everything and given the sheer volume of D800 owners, I'm not seeing a big reaction even in nikon boards. If there is a batch out there with alignment issues, it will no doubt be recalled by serial and repaired, as canon has done for their goofs in the past.

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #336 on: June 28, 2012, 02:44:07 AM »
Is there anyway of getting real numbers of the bodies been sold? I would love to see how many 5DII have been sold so far apart from the usual suspects, the D800 and 5DIII

The D800 and 5DIII numbers all seem to be plucked out of the air, there is nothing better than real facts.

Amazon numbers are fine for comparing Amazon sales but I suspect these bodies main selling place is elsewhere such as the pro/specialist outlets

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #337 on: June 28, 2012, 04:20:42 AM »
Amazon numbers are fine for comparing Amazon sales but I suspect these bodies main selling place is elsewhere such as the pro/specialist outlets

Why do you think so? Esp. with a camera body, there's every reason to get it as cheap as possible, and that might be Amazon. For lenses, it's different because you may want to try the particular sample before buying it or return it without any hassle if it's a bad copy.

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« Reply #338 on: June 28, 2012, 06:44:00 AM »
Has anybody mentioned that the 5D3 takes canon lenses?  A benefit that cannot be over-stated for people who already have Canon lenses.

Simple:

If you need 36MP today then get a nikon D800

If you don't and don't want to get a 5D3 then either keep using the 5D2 that was already doing a job for you or get a 1DX or 1D4.

Canon will steal the march on Nikon soon enough, and you'll want to swap back.

Does anybody think that in all seriousness NOT having a D800 is going to cost them work, money or enjoyment?

By the time you take account of ability, talent, planning, technique, post-processing skills, lens quality etc the camera really is the 1% difference.

I really do not understand it.  How many of you make money selling lab shots of focus charts at ISO 102'800?

Get. A. Grip!.

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #339 on: June 28, 2012, 07:19:19 AM »


Does anybody think that in all seriousness NOT having a D800 is going to cost them work, money or enjoyment?



Great question! I chose the 5D3 for various reasons, but I think I can IMAGINE two people who might answer "yes."

1. The "pro" who either doesn't want to, or cannot, properly frame shots while capturing a decisive moment. With the D800 he'll be able to crop the shot in post to make it look like it was properly shot with a 5D3. If this person "only" had 22MP he would not sell his work because he'd have to crop it to 6MP or something. :)

2. Have you shot with or seen the files from a medium format camera? I got to check out the Phase One earlier in the year and just looking at those files makes a person smile. The single D800 file I've played with sort of had that feeling too it. So a pixel peeper, camera trekkie kind of guy may actually enjoy their D800 much more than other (in class) cameras simply because of the insane amount of detail that is captured. I'm not convinced that translates to any meaningful benefit in print however.

The thread asks if the 5D3 is better at anything over the D800. My answer? When I had the chance to play with both of them I didn't even touch the D800. The 5D3 sells itself because of expectation and reputation. The only thing that the D800 seems to best the 5D3 at is a failed (IMO) marketing move of having 36MP which are at least 18 more than we really "need" and I put that in quotes because I'm not convinced we need that many even.

The 5D3 is better at fitting into my workflow, both by giving me the tools I need and not getting in the way with "features" I don't.

If you're a Nikon guy with lots of glass get the D800, if you're Canon get the 5D3 just like every credible review has said neither camera is strong enough to make a person who is at all invested in the product line switch. They are both truly great cameras. The 5D3 is just better. ;)

It's better because it fits me.

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #340 on: June 28, 2012, 07:23:07 AM »
Some guys on the Australian forums are having trouble with the AF on their D800's too.
I know of one that has been back to Nikon to get fixed, and it came back exactly the same.
His test shots are terrible, and he is a very accomplished photographer and is getting really pissed off.

I think that for my types of photography, which is a lot of different types, if I didn't have any lenses, I'd still go for the 5D3 over the D800.
The D800 is good for one or two genres of photography, but the 5D3 is good at ALL of them.

I'm very happy with mine.
I've pushed it in all sorts of ways and it always comes up trumps.
It focuses well when I can't even see the object I'm photographing through the viewfinder because it's so dark!

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #342 on: June 28, 2012, 09:07:08 AM »
@marsu:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/305483/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii.html
Thanks - actually, the lowest price seems to be rather ~3100€, and if only one supplier is listing it that low it sounds a bit dodgy. I once fell for the lowest price, but these suppliers simply might not have the item in stock but wait for a near price drop of the original manufacturer (Canon in this case). This in combination with horrendous fees for pay after delivery will engineer people into paying up front and having to wait for ages. Many will cancel the contract, but some may not, so that's a business model too for catching customers.

But maybe it's just a terrific offer and I'm paranoid. On the other hand, being paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you :-p

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« Reply #343 on: June 28, 2012, 09:11:09 AM »
Price is dropping fast and is close to 3000 euro now in the netherlands so price is not an issue anymore

Where do you get this prize from? In Germany, it's no less than €3250, didn't drop a cent since release - obviously they're still serving back-orders and there's no competition yet.

Check this...Under $3000!
http://www.eglobaldigitalcameras.com.au/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-body-only-digital-slr-camera.html

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #344 on: June 28, 2012, 09:54:22 AM »
@marsu:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/305483/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii.html
Thanks - actually, the lowest price seems to be rather ~3100€, and if only one supplier is listing it that low it sounds a bit dodgy. I once fell for the lowest price, but these suppliers simply might not have the item in stock but wait for a near price drop of the original manufacturer (Canon in this case). This in combination with horrendous fees for pay after delivery will engineer people into paying up front and having to wait for ages. Many will cancel the contract, but some may not, so that's a business model too for catching customers.

But maybe it's just a terrific offer and I'm paranoid. On the other hand, being paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you :-p

under 3000€ here in italy

http://www.tuttoinprontaconsegna.it/b_prodotto.aspx?idProdotto=18118

we are dumping the price with money we will get from Germany ...hahaha

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Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?
« Reply #344 on: June 28, 2012, 09:54:22 AM »