All - I spoke with August at J&R Music in NYC (I've been buying from them since the mid 70s - trusted source). Though not on their site, August gave me the OK to put this listing here. if you call him directly he will sell you the 5D Markiii with the kit lens for $4169 vs. $4299. Their number is : 800-806-1115 his extension is 1041. They are (like most resellers) presently out of stock on this item but they expect shipment soon. Their web site is jr.com. You must ask for August as no other sales rep will offer this price.