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paul13walnut5

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Re: Video & Audio
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2012, 09:37:46 AM »
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If the on camera audio is made to be usable with the help of decent mic on the camera such as the Videomic Pro etc it gives you a better opportunity to capture that ambient audio. There has been many occasions that our audio tech has screwed up a part of a shot due to technical difficulties and that clean on camera audio has saved our asses.

Lets be frank, the whole video thing is designed to be an add-on to a stills camera.  It wasn't designed for b-roll or anything else.  Just basic audio.

Now the video has been adapted from its early incarnations in the 5D2 (initially auto exposure NTSC only) and 500D (not full frame rate at 1080, auto exposure, no mic input) and only really progressed through firmware updates and the likes of Magic Lantern pushing the boundaries.

Now it's quite good.

On the subject of magic lantern, apparantly you can set it up so the L channel is what comes through the mic input and the r channel is what is coming through the front mic on camera.   If this fix works on the 60D then that well may be the most cost effective way forward.   

I have a sennheiser MKE300E (hangover from my vx1000 days) for the occassions I just need a little better than front mic quality audio, and I also have a rycote microwindjammer on the cameras built in mic, to make it that little bit more usable should push come to almighty shove and I've only the camera on me.

The point is that it takes more than a decent mic to get decent sound, and in actual fact, on top of the camera, next to your breathing, handling and motor noises is just about the worst place you could put it.

I already had a decent camcorder mic sitting on the shelf, for the little difference in cost between the rode video mic and the rode NTG-2 the OP was sold the right thing.   The practicality of the video mic is very quickly exposed in use.




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Re: Video & Audio
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Re: Video & Audio
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 02:31:30 PM »


Basic mic stand with boom.  $30.  Overhead if subject seated, underneath if subject standing.  Avoids handling noises.

Would you happen to have a link to an example of the $30 range mic stand and boom, so I could see what I should be looking for in that price range?

Thank you!

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Re: Video & Audio
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2012, 02:53:00 PM »
Recently I watched a training video where the instructor suggested using a monopod (handheld of course) as an alternative to a mic boom. You can get cheap tripod versions on Amazon (see link below):

http://www.amazon.com/Stage-Stands-MS7701-Tripod-Microphone/dp/B000978D58

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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 03:22:39 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-Stage-New-microphone-stand-with-Boom-and-Tripod-base-new-in-box-/251075809635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7548d163

Perfectly adequate.  I now use a beyer dynamic (k&M are also good) which cost a bit more money (you go through 2 or 3 cheapies and think, nah I should just buy a decent one next time)

Mic from the opposite side of your subjects looking room / direction.


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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2012, 06:15:10 PM »
I'm learning a lot from this discussion.  Keep it going.
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Re: Video & Audio
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2012, 06:16:39 PM »
Hello all,

I am using my 60D to record sporting events, documentaries with my students, etc.  I wen to BH Photo yesterday and the very nice sales associate pointed me to the NTG-2 combo.  When I arrived home and set everything up I realized that I may be deficient in what I need.

The level of the recording and the quality is complete rubbish going into the camera.  I've read elsewhere that people plug their Rode Mics into an H1 or H4N, as well as a Tascam product of similar capabilities.

Does anyone have a good link/video that can clearly outline a nice "workflow" for audio when using DSLR.

Best,

jason :P

I'm not sure if the 60D lets you manually control audio volume, if it does, then turn it down to almost zero and plug a juicedlink pre-amp into it the DT414 has a lot of power and will get rid of the hiss for most applications (the 200 series have less power but might be enough for loud stuff or reasonably loud stuff with mic up close).

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2012, 06:40:58 PM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/On-Stage-New-microphone-stand-with-Boom-and-Tripod-base-new-in-box-/251075809635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7548d163

Perfectly adequate.  I now use a beyer dynamic (k&M are also good) which cost a bit more money (you go through 2 or 3 cheapies and think, nah I should just buy a decent one next time)

Mic from the opposite side of your subjects looking room / direction.


Thank you...

I found this also on amazon.com...and since I have prime, I get 2x day free shipping!!

If you order over $25 (so, if needing something else)...would be cheaper without the shipping on the ebay one:

http://www.amazon.com/Stage-Stands-MS7701-Tripod-Microphone/dp/B000978D58/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338935976&sr=8-1

Thank you, this will come in VERY handy!!

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Re: Video & Audio
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2012, 06:40:58 PM »