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Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« on: June 13, 2012, 01:49:28 AM »
Hello,
Can you please suggest which lens is better for shooting Weddings (still pictures)?
Is it 35mm 1.4 more useful than 50mm 1.2 or the other way?
I am not able to decide. Have budget for only one lens.
I use Canon 5D Mark III. I will be using the lens primarily for shooting bride and/or groom and groups.
I have 70-200 2.8 and 24-105 4.0 lenses as well if it helps for you to make a better suggestion.
I am kind of leaning towards 35 mm but I am afraid that I may have to get too close for the individual shots.
Thank you for your suggestions in advance!
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Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« on: June 13, 2012, 01:49:28 AM »

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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2012, 11:24:43 PM »
Well, I don't know for primes.  For weddings I'd use 24-70L zoom lens mainly.  Hmmm, I'd say I shoot at 50mm more than 35mm.  35 just isn't close enough for me for most situations. 

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 12:54:53 AM »
I've been toying with the same proposition and whilst the 35mm is a stunning lens, you need to get closer and risk distortion - which for a wedding is not desireable. No bride wants her nose to appear bigger!

50mm provides a good field of view without the distortion effects.

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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 01:32:57 AM »
The 50mm is a super general-purpose focal length. Never used the Canon 50mm, but the 35mm I have. It's a gorgeous image but you gotta get really close to your subjects for portraits.
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 02:13:50 AM »
If you can delay, I would see if the 24-70 II delivers the IQ that it is supposed to...

It has an awesome focal range for weddings!
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 03:08:30 AM »
The 50 1.2 wont focus right wih the outer AF sensors on the 5D.

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 05:45:02 AM »
The 50 1.2 wont focus right wih the outer AF sensors on the 5D.

The 50mm f/1.2 L won't focus right with any AF sensor on any 5D. I've tried it on 5Dc, 5DII and 5DIII (and 7D for that matter). My lens, even at the best AF adjustment setting (-20) it misses more often than it hits (stationary high-contrast target from tripod). I wouldn't exclude the possibility of my sample being sub-par, but if you decide to get one of these, make sure the shop has a good return policy. I'd actually recommend getting the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 instead.

Having said that, both the 35mm and 50mm focal lengths are useful for weddings, and the 35L is excellent.
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 05:45:02 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2012, 07:22:47 AM »
The 50mm f/1.2 L won't focus right with any AF sensor on any 5D. I've tried it on 5Dc, 5DII and 5DIII (and 7D for that matter). My lens, even at the best AF adjustment setting (-20) it misses more often than it hits (stationary high-contrast target from tripod). I wouldn't exclude the possibility of my sample being sub-par, but if you decide to get one of these, make sure the shop has a good return policy. I'd actually recommend getting the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 instead.

Having said that, both the 35mm and 50mm focal lengths are useful for weddings, and the 35L is excellent.

Looks like you should have the lens sent in to be calibrated.  Mine works OK on a 5DII with AFMA.

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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 07:26:39 AM »
50mm > 35mm.

I just prefer the neutral perspective and it's look.
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 10:39:37 AM »
The 50 1.2 wont focus right wih the outer AF sensors on the 5D.

The 50mm f/1.2 L won't focus right with any AF sensor on any 5D. I've tried it on 5Dc, 5DII and 5DIII (and 7D for that matter). My lens, even at the best AF adjustment setting (-20) it misses more often than it hits (stationary high-contrast target from tripod). I wouldn't exclude the possibility of my sample being sub-par, but if you decide to get one of these, make sure the shop has a good return policy. I'd actually recommend getting the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 instead.

Having said that, both the 35mm and 50mm focal lengths are useful for weddings, and the 35L is excellent.

Really?? I just used it all day yesterday on a 5D Mark III and it worked great, except it was admittendly frustrating in AI Servo Mode.

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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 11:06:56 AM »
During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable. 
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2012, 11:45:11 AM »
During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable.

I'm starting to think Canon has added a new layer of "skill" in using this lens:  Whether they sold you a good copy or not :)

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2012, 11:51:51 AM »
During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable.

I'm starting to think Canon has added a new layer of "skill" in using this lens:  Whether they sold you a good copy or not :)

I dont know what it is... when the 1.2 got good focus, it was magical, but for me to get consistent results, i had to shoot at 2.8 or lower...  If i'm paying $1200 for a 1.2, I dont know, i kinda expect to be able to consistently use it for shallower aps that 2.8.  Even my 1.4 50 does a decent job at 1.8 and  2.2, albeit iffy on AF from times to time and not so flattering at 1.4...  The 35 1.4, it was hard to make that puppy miss. 
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2012, 11:51:51 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2012, 05:40:16 PM »
During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable.

How fair is that? If you had å copy at Max out MA, you haven't got a properly calibrated lens, and of course that won't work. I didn't get any stability or accuracy with my 50's before i used REIKAN software. But now, the 50 L is just fantastic, and as you can see from my bottom signature, I have the others to compare with. It isn't perfect, but it's what's closest in the 50 focal...
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Re: Canon 35mm f/1.4 L or Canon 50 mm f.1.2 L - for Weddings
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM »
During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable.

How fair is that? If you had å copy at Max out MA, you haven't got a properly calibrated lens, and of course that won't work. I didn't get any stability or accuracy with my 50's before i used REIKAN software. But now, the 50 L is just fantastic, and as you can see from my bottom signature, I have the others to compare with. It isn't perfect, but it's what's closest in the 50 focal...

My experience is similar, and I probably should have my own sample calibrated. It's especially frustrating because I've never encountered any such problems with the 35L (two samples), 85L, 135L (three samples) or 50 f/1.4 (3 samples) for that matter. Slight MA needed, sure, but nothing like this.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM »