Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Do people realize many of the L lenses incorporate plastic or are mostly plastic, yet are weather sealed???

Nonsense! All L lenses have solid metal construction! What do you think the L stands for?
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[EchoLocation]

I'm a 5DC owner along with a 24-105 and a 50 1.4. I have been wanting better AF and AFMA for a long time now and never wanted the 5DII because of the AF.
I would love a 5DIII, but I believe it is a 2800 dollar camera that after a year of being on the market should be 2500 dollars. I would have preordered for 2800. The new 24-70 lens is very very expensive and this was my main choice for a single travel lens.
After seeing the comparisons between the 5DIII and the D800 I think that the D800 is much more of an improvement in sensor performance over the D700 than the 5DIII is over the 5DII.
From the rumored specs, I think most people agree that the D600 looks better on paper than this new Canon FF camera, especially after the improvements shown in the D800(mentioned above.)
I love Canon, and have been a loyal customer for years, but I am not heavily invested in the system. I don't like the direction of their pricing(one of the reasons I bought them in the first place was the relatively cheaper pricing than the Nikon version(Canon 24-70 I is cheaper than Nikon 5DII was cheaper than D700.) That is not the case anymore.
If Canon makes a FF mirrorless, I will be thrilled and buy it if it is around $3k with a lens.
However, at this moment, comparing a D600 for 1500 and a Canon FF, I will choose the D600. I wish this was not the case, but in my opinion(and based on rumored specs, and sensor performance of their current cameras), the Canon offering is a little low on features, low on sensor performance, and higher in price. I will gladly purchase a D600 and 24-70 for around 3300 dollars than the Canon versions for over 4300 dollars.
My .02 cents.

[rcha101]

How does this make sense? Why would I want a $2000 plastic 5DII equivalent when I can have the real thing for the same money? And I don't believe there is any noticeable difference between the 5DII and 5DIII sensor. So what gives?

Totally agree, Bought myself a 5DII this year for exactly that reason.

[mclaren777]

If this entry-level FF camera has the same noise sensitivity as the 5D3, a "silent" shooting mode, and options for setting minimum ISO/shutter speed, I'll surely be getting one.

[takoman46]

If this entry-level FF camera has the same noise sensitivity as the 5D3, a "silent" shooting mode, and options for setting minimum ISO/shutter speed, I'll surely be getting one.

If what you hope for turns out to be true, I might sell my 5D Mark 3 and buy one of these entry level FF just out of spite.

[mclaren777]

If what you hope for turns out to be true, I might sell my 5D Mark 3 and buy one of these entry level FF just out of spite.

Giving Canon $5500 is spiteful? :p

[baronng]

For amateurs, dual card slots/full weather sealing is not really a must
they mostly concerns IQ

an entry level FF called 6D,5D lite would be awesome;
single SD slot, built-in flash,lighter plastic body, 19 AF points, slower 4 fps is really excellent

but there is no point to trust a CR2 rumor from canonrumors......it is not much different from CR0
you can check the track records

[adhocphotographer]

This is good news...  I have been saving up to replace my body in the next 6-9 months...  I was waiting to see what APS-C offerings would surface. However, a smaller, more compact FF would certainly be of interest! However, weather sealing on body and lenses is becomeing more important for me.

*19 AF points is more than enough for me
*AFMA would also be great
*Weather sealing

If it has those, i am very interested indeed!

[sandymandy]

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Wouldn't a metal body tend to expand and contract more than a plastic one?

I dont think normal operating temperatures cause any significant expansion and/or contraction. Not many people out there who use their camera in the antarctic or near volcanos etc. i think. And then probably the material doesnt matter anyway cuz its just so extreme.

Im quite happy about having a "cheap" entry FF dslr coming out. 5D Mark 3 is really expensive.

Hopefully it also got better control than the rebels but im sure about that. I just got a rebel and its such a pain in the ass to switch ISO/WB/Exposure Mode cuz u gotta frickle through menus and got no direct access buttons. Custom Functions doesnt help me fully too.

[DarkKnightNine]

Yaaawn!

Still waiting for a FF camera from Canon, that offers a real IQ upgrade over the 5D2.

You know.. Like Nikon's D800 does.

Shot with the D800 last weekend. Overall not super impressed. Had my 5D Mark III handy for comparison shots. The images coming out of my Canon were good enough with excellent IQ and the color fidelity straight out of camera was simply gorgeous compared to the Nikon's natural green cast! Yes 36MP look good on a spec sheet, but in the studio my 22MP Canon was able to hold it's own and in some ways was even better. Another thing to point out is that the D800 is approaching Medium Format resolution and thus not as forgiving to focus.

[Ew]

Has anyone seen the specs on the upcoming (claimed August) Sony a99 ??  http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-a99-specs-do-you-like-the-camera/

10-12 Fps
1080p @ 60 Fps (first dslr to do so)

Wonder if this will put pressure on Canon, and with the lower price FF coming, get them to add something via Firmware to the 5D3.

[sandymandy]

Sony doesnt put pressure on anybody. Not such a great company anymore since Playstation 2.

[madmailman]

Nonsense! All L lenses have solid metal construction! What do you think the L stands for?
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All "L" lenses. Except the 100mm L Macro.

[steliosk]

an articulated screen would be nice in FF
its a handy tool for low angle shots.

[ecka]

After 5D3 was released at $3500 MSRP, this lower class FF body is starting to make sense to me . I just hope it will have CF slot in it, not SDHC . Vari-angle LCD would be great too.