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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #180 on: July 20, 2012, 10:15:10 PM »
Ok, so 18-55 pretty much seals the deal that this thing is an APS-C.  That's all that really matters.  Don't like the aesthetics of this thing?  Doesn't matter.  Need wheels?  Doesn't matter.  Angry about the lack of a PASM dial?  Doesn't matter.  Color reminds you of your ex?  Doesn't matter.

What does matter is EF-M = APS-C.  What logically follows is we'll have an EF/EF-S->EF-M adapter and Canon mirrorless cameras will be able to use our existing lenses.

This thing is the first gen of a new class.  THIS particular mirrorless camera is obviously aimed at consumers.  We kinda have an inkling that it will have a sibling out near or at arrival.  We're pretty damn sure there's going to be a second generation, and Canon's the kind of company who will make a higher end one.  If this exact offering doesn't blow your skirt up eventually one will probably come along.  The important thing is that it's APS-C.  This is just one body which is current for a year or two.  A mount lasts decades.

Canon doesn't really care about selling bodies so much as they care about getting you hooked into their lens system.  Someone buying a low-end body is a customer.  Someone buying many lenses is a very good customer.  Canon wants their customers to be very good customers, and that means more lenses and future bodies.  APS-C gets them there.

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« Reply #181 on: July 20, 2012, 11:11:45 PM »
But can it read?

There's an app for that.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #182 on: July 20, 2012, 11:28:10 PM »
correct msowsun that´s how i measured it too.

I tend to agree - the sensor looks "slimmer" i.e. closer to 3:2 than images I have seen of the G1X sensor.  Also, the rear LCD seems to have a 3:2 aspect ratio.  I have never seen a camera which leaves blank edges on the left and/or right sides when displaying an image in landscape orientation.  That would seem to suggest a sensor with a 3:2 aspect ratio.
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« Reply #183 on: July 20, 2012, 11:30:36 PM »
What a PoS  >:(   No manual controls (sorry touch-screen doesn't count), and butt ugly.

Well looks like Leica can breath easy - this is laughable by comparison.

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« Reply #184 on: July 20, 2012, 11:53:26 PM »
Does everyone want a camera that is a sub 1000$ Leica?
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #185 on: July 21, 2012, 01:20:39 AM »
If the G1X is $709, just imagine the price on this thing. Darn. It better be made by the hands of angels if they expect more money than that.
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« Reply #186 on: July 21, 2012, 02:34:46 AM »
New tiny Speedlite?
Will it work with all other EOS Buddies?  :)



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« Reply #187 on: July 21, 2012, 02:46:23 AM »
I'm reasonably ok with this.  But I'm anxiously waiting for confirmation of an external electronic viewfinder.  For any semi-serious photographer, this is a "must have".  Very curious about those camera strap connectors.  Looking forward to more details.

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« Reply #188 on: July 21, 2012, 03:30:15 AM »
I wonder what the camera/lens exteriors are going to be made out of? the thing that jumps to mind is obviously cheap plastic but looking at those pics it does seem to have much more of a sheen look to me than is typical for Canon's other plastic lenses. Given that this mirrorless seems to be very much aiming for the NEX I wouldnt actually be supprized if it and the lenses have metal exteriors.

If the G1X is $709, just imagine the price on this thing. Darn. It better be made by the hands of angels if they expect more money than that.

The G1X has a much larger body with a viewfinder, more manual controls and a bright/long lens built in. While I'd guess Canon will try to sell this for a similar kind of price I doubt it will be $1000, even if it is mirrorless prices generally seem to fall much faster than DSLR prices.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #189 on: July 21, 2012, 04:04:20 AM »
If the G1X is $709, just imagine the price on this thing. Darn. It better be made by the hands of angels if they expect more money than that.

Most people predict it would cost 400$-800$ http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8133.0
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #190 on: July 21, 2012, 04:12:19 AM »
By my rough calculations the EF-M lens mount would be about 15% smaller than an EF or EF-S mount and it looks more like a regular 22.3 x 14.9 APS-C sensor rather than the 18.7 x 14mm G1x sensor.
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How can that be a 22mm lens if the front element is only 14mm across?

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« Reply #191 on: July 21, 2012, 04:30:50 AM »
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #192 on: July 21, 2012, 04:43:35 AM »
I'm reasonably ok with this.  But I'm anxiously waiting for confirmation of an external electronic viewfinder.  For any semi-serious photographer, this is a "must have".  Very curious about those camera strap connectors.  Looking forward to more details.

I think this body is going to be pitched at the bottom end of the market, so I am unsure about an EVF.  The only thing that is a little incongruous if this is pitched at the low end is the lack of a pop-up flash.

I think this body will be Canon's "gateway drug" into the EOS system.  They will want to keep it affordable.  The only problem I see with that is that at the low end people do not want to buy separate speedlites.

I doubt we will see a 40mm pancake with an EF-M mount for instance - Canon will probably rather want people to buy an EF mount lens plus adapter, so that when they start thinking of a DLSR, they already have glass they can use on an EOS DSLR.
Once they have a more feature-rich body available, this system will be of more interest to enthusiasts.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #192 on: July 21, 2012, 04:43:35 AM »

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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #193 on: July 21, 2012, 04:47:37 AM »
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.

What also intrigues me is that it looks like the diameter of the lens mount is large enough to accomodate a full frame sensor.  It looks like Canon may be playing the long game here, with a view to a strategic investment in a system which can be extended, rather than looking for a quick win.
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Re: first pic of canon mirrorless?
« Reply #194 on: July 21, 2012, 04:48:07 AM »
How can that be a 22mm lens if the front element is only 14mm across?
Because it's f/2 and has a physical aperture of 11mm.

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« Reply #194 on: July 21, 2012, 04:48:07 AM »